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November 2018 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes Tuesday, December 11th
- Thread starter donny2112
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XB1 was 100% expected, last year they launched the XB1X in November and has better deals.
They had a deal where if you bought Red Dead 2, you got a $100 discount on an Xbox One X. It's essentially a bundle, but it's not.
With Christmas still to come! Maybe another 500K tacked on their for SMO/BOTW (20% attach with 2.5M HW if it can push that).
I'm sure MK8D has blasted past the other two by this point though, especially with the bundle.
If the X sold well they could win in $. Out of nowhere, everyone was focus on PS4/Switch competition.
Holy shit at Switch, that's an incredible jump.
XBO -3% on November 2017 isn't too bad at all given it was X's launch month, although I'm sure MS was still hoping for some growth.
With their mediocre deals? I don't think so, they are likely happy being almost flat YoY.
Everybody did great.
It feels good that this industry is profitable enough to have three big players and all of them succeed.
It feels good that this industry is profitable enough to have three big players and all of them succeed.
Wait how does this conflict with Nintendo's PR? Was it that the numbers there suggested lower than real Switch performance if interpreted to represent the whole month?
Or did they actually oversell the performance in some way?
According to LTD from Nintendo, Switch would have sold sold just ~800k in november.
The bundles were lackluster, but price wise they were where they needed to be to sell, with the X even being as low as $400 or less with a game afaik.
The real surprise to me is PS4 down, as basically Sony could choose to sell as many as they were wanting to make available with an incredibly popular Spidey bundle, and now having so very few deals (if any) on console hardware this December.
Yeah so they were actually underselling themselves.
Those numbers must have really been just for the BF period.
Honestly it was really confusing so I don't even remember, but all I know was that it made Benji question himself when clearly there was no need to.
Nintendo's post Black Friday/Cyber Monday PR
8.6-8.7M > 8.2M
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
8.6-8.7M > 8.2M
Technically correct. The best kind of correct.
X for $399 was great, but the S Minecraft bundle for $199 was a poor offer considering that PS4 Spider bundle was costing the same.
PS4 definitively is down due to shortages, demand apparent was amazing at the beginning of Black Friday week.
Yup, it is. I almost got one a few times too.
Price is the bigger factor most of the time, IMO.
But, if it didn't take the top spot in revenue there's still those they will get the base console since it's still the cheapest. Price....
Can't wait till the official NPD results come out.
Good month for all 3 and once again Benji was right on the money .
This month switch should do really good .
MS should do okay also but i really not certain on PS4.
This month switch should do really good .
MS should do okay also but i really not certain on PS4.
God damn, nothing is able to stop the PS4 train!!
Still fantastic performance from all 3 platforms. All of them relatively close to each other, signs of a very healthy market.
Huh. What was the PS3's LTD there?
Well no Xbox is selling for $199 again, but with no marquee title for December, it won't do much in the bigger picture.
Kinda disappointed to see the PS4 down but Benji warned us. That said, being on top in units this month again is very well played by Sony with that inevitable 199$ deal. Outselling the PS3 LTD is also a big story. PS4 should be close to 28 million LTD right ?
Also, if my numbers are right, Switch must outsell PS4 by less than 600K in December to be the top selling machine of the year in units, is that right ?
With no deal in sight for PS4 this Christmas and Smash most likely doing history numbers, chances are very slim to see PS4 staying on top, but the real deal will be to see if it can at least remain flat for the year.
Also, if my numbers are right, Switch must outsell PS4 by less than 600K in December to be the top selling machine of the year in units, is that right ?
With no deal in sight for PS4 this Christmas and Smash most likely doing history numbers, chances are very slim to see PS4 staying on top, but the real deal will be to see if it can at least remain flat for the year.
Might? It will unless the other consoles magically do better without deals.
Xbox one is $199 again? Where? I'm seeing $249 online.
As we can see with the final result, the PS4 was never getting anywhere near 2M. Even with Cyber Monday week.
But I pointed out how unlikely that is and why you should see YOY decline for both PS4 and XB1 :)
And the Switch got the boost needed not just from the Black Friday PR but also what they need to actually ship 20M units. December is going to be >2M.
But I pointed out how unlikely that is and why you should see YOY decline for both PS4 and XB1 :)
And the Switch got the boost needed not just from the Black Friday PR but also what they need to actually ship 20M units. December is going to be >2M.
Switch did great. XB1 did way better than expected.
Not that great of a result for PS4 given the deals. Limited stock and all that, but they probably could have hit those numbers with a less enticing deal which makes the number pretty mediocre in my eyes.
Not that great of a result for PS4 given the deals. Limited stock and all that, but they probably could have hit those numbers with a less enticing deal which makes the number pretty mediocre in my eyes.
Oh, we got some Sheep on top of Pork now? We're gonna have a farm of insiders at this rate!
The X1 performance really surprised me. Great month for it considering the competition. Also, all consoles over 1M for the first time in history and the PS4 surpasses the PS3 LTD. Excellent month.
The X1 performance really surprised me. Great month for it considering the competition. Also, all consoles over 1M for the first time in history and the PS4 surpasses the PS3 LTD. Excellent month.
Do we have LTD for Xbox one and PS4 ? I think the difference is above 4 million with November right?