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November Wrasslin' |OT| A new meaning to the phrase Power struggle
- Thread starter Heromanz
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What did you think of Keith Lee vs Djokovic 2? Think that was the same ep as Riddle vs Cole.
it was the week before or even the first week it went on USA and it was of course awesome. Lee should be a megastar damn it.
"so uh... haven't seen Maria for a few weeks. Sorry for not keeping up with the vlogs, guys!"
It's a double-edged sword. NXT getting over and becoming big proved that style of wrestling could draw and be popular at the highest level in the US (selling out Brooklyn was a big moment for that).
That had the effect of causing WWE to want to sign up more indie guys (which is a negative) and actually push them and pay them (which is a positive). Guys like Ricochet or Lio Rush would have had limited chances to make real money in wrestling a decade ago. But I also think, to a degree, NXT whet the appetite of a certain subset of fans for an alternative and helped create the desire in the market that AEW has filled.
So I don't think it's fair at all to say it's the worst thing. Not even totally certain it's a net negative from a business perspective. It's got pros and cons.
*I dropped WWE at the beginning of 2018, so my opinion reflects that.
I do not like WWE indy style. It feels too much like RoH finishers kick out spamming for their big matches (to the surprise of no one, as current WWE base is RoH centric). The movesets being limited does not help. Then a lot of their matches just feel like the indies greatest hits but in the new WWE style. When it comes to the weekly tv-shows, they felt mediocre (the 1 hour ones), plenty of filler and bad matches with the developing, WWE only, talent. I think as a developing brand it did help develop some interesting wrestlers: The Revival, American Alpha, Velveteen Dream, Sasha and repackage some indy / Japanese wrestler: Asuka, DIY, Strong, Almas, Kairi Sane, but eventually all that was meaningless once they are moved to the main shows.
The real damage it did it was taking the best talent the indies had to give for cheap. On the other hand, it made other companies start paying better for their talent (even if it meant paying a lot to wrestlers like Taven). The real losers are the UK and US indie scenes. Lucha and Puroresu talent are getting payed better than in years.
For lucha in English:
https://twitter.com/luchablog?lang=en
It mostly covers AAA and CMLL. It has a blindspot in Mexican indies, but form time to time it covers some.
Rob is better for Mexican indies:
https://twitter.com/RobViper
I don't mind the gimmick but that cringe promo she cut with her wwe style moniker that was said like 3x was bad
ah good. Did you watch the latest NXT show where Cole was going on about TUE being the "ironmen of nxt"? You reckon that leads to a ironman triple threat between Cole / Ciampa / Balor in February? That's never been done right? And its actually a better excuse to have multiple pinfalls than just 1 on 1 imo.
Kairi and Asuka are booked into a handicap match against Charlotte on Raw next Monday. Vince just wants to embarrass his Japanese talent again. How is that an incentive?
Great now anything other then this will be a disappointment.
Hey~ I recently catch the wrestling bug by watching a lot of videos on Youtube, how can I get started if I know next to nothing about it?
Avoid WWE or watch it casually, who knows. But AEW is relatively new, it's on weekly every Wednesday on TNT, it's got a free youtube show that features matches not seen on television that also features some pretty great stuff. Less than 10 episodes in at this point? So now is as good a time as any, as most characters and storylines are taking off and finding their footing. Plus, there is a lot of new talent that are being seen on a wider stage for the first time, so seeing them grow is pretty neat.
They will typically recap and fill you in on commentary if you miss anything. You'll get hype packages and stuff before PPVs as well to inform you why these people hate one another.
Watch AEW Dynamite on Wednesdays, ask us questions, enjoy and don't worry about missing something, you'll figure it out.
Don't worry about knowing next to nothing, just pick out what speaks to you and everything will fall into place. Most major promotions have free matches on Youtube. If you're interested in Japanese or Mexican wrestling, plenty of folks here can let you know what's up.
This is awesome.
I must have watched Drop Dead Fred hundreds of times as a kid. I watched it again a couple of years ago and couldnt believe how inappropriate it was for kids.
My advice would be to take a taste of all the different promotions and styles, living in a golden age of access where you can easily jump into joshi/lucha/us/uk/euro wrestling through streaming/youtube/facebook for tons of promotions.
Another key thing IMO is following a bunch of wrestling focused accounts on Twitter. Even if you don't get time to watch the matches at least you get a taste of the wrestlers and the style.
TDE for WWE/NXT/AEW/Joshi gifs
Roy for Lucha gifs
Maffew for botch gifs
2 of the bigger US indies are GCW and Beyond, GCW are the main tastemaker feeding breaking out talent up to the bigger leagues with cheap, constant PPV's while Beyond are similar but run a weekly TV show on IWTV streaming. Beyond also put a ton of matches up on their Youtube channel which I'd recommend checking out.
Nothing big on this show, but some decent trios matches. The opener and the Hijo del Vikingo one seems like the ones to watch.
What kind of videos did you watch, and who stood out to you?
I think the quickest way to sustain and grow a love of wrestling is:
- Watch lucha. And start with Lucha Libre AAA. Most of their shows are available on Twitch live (including tonight's) and their Wednesday show, Lucha Capital is on Facebook Watch.
- Watch DDT. Some great, high-energy wrestling and comedy for days. Subscribing to DDT Universe will also net you access to TJPW which is one of the best women's promotions going.
people sad enough to liveblog about wwe itt should be forced to wear this
thank you very much for your recommendations! Will certainly look at Twitch tonight.
I looked at WWE stuff since I only recognize John Cena and The Rock. Also watched some videogame footage of an old Saturn game because one of the guys (Goldust I think) reminds me of that Jim Sterling character he has.
That figurefour pin into an elevated inverse figurefour :chefkiss and lol at the middle turnbuckle snapping.
Also the food at the end is daaaaaaaaaamn.
Watch some lucha is mostly free.
Hey man, a few years back I was where you're at now. Interested and wanting to see more. Everyone has you going in the right directions as it is now. I'd also recommend Mr. Lariato's list here if you get inrested in NJPW. There's some great stuff here and a lot of the current big WWE stars and AEW guys came from NJPW. This tweet can help you get caught up on the must see stuff from that.
If you ultimately decide you want to check out NJPW the subscription is Ā„999 which is about +/-$10 depending on the strength of the dollar. Just use paypal. It'll handle the conversion for you.
