God of War is going to outsell God of War 3's entire life time sales in like 2 months
lmao whatMakes me think of ars technica...
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015...-widen-its-console-sales-lead-over-microsoft/
Dam son! Nice
Did we get xbox numbers then? Last I heard was not quite 30MLet's not get ahead of ourselves.
Xbox One will reach 40M LT in some months, way better than Wii U.
Makes me think of ars technica...
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015...-widen-its-console-sales-lead-over-microsoft/
This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.
All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up
Benji, would you say that God of War blew up around the time previews started dropping in March and then later after reviews dropped? This goes back to earlier discussion of how much do reviews (and meta scores) matter, at least for single player games.This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.
All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up
How's Spider-Man looking? I think previously you said it was below what GoW was projecting.
This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.
All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up
This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.
All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up
Benji, would you say that God of War blew up around the time previews started dropping in March and then later after reviews dropped? This goes back to earlier discussion of how much do reviews (and meta scores) matter, at least for single player games.
My guess is that The Last of Us Part II is tracking like that because of implicit trust in Naughty Dog brand.
Well depends on what you mean.
Spidey by social metrics is enormous. So things like online communities, Twitter, YouTube etc. its killing it.
But in terms of regular broad consumers I haven't seen the same sort of traction GoW had / has. Spidey isn't until September though so that coupled with reviews if they are really positive could push it higher
That is scary.Early metrics for TLOU Pt 2 in the US are significantly ahead of GoW in a similar time frame
Interesting. Seems like the God of War brand is just very strong in the US. If The Last of Us Part II match God of War reviews then it is going to do some heavy damage.GoW always had pretty strong indicators but yeah there is no question that once previews hit it picked up. Reviews took it into another stratosphere though. Game was always going to do well but once reviews hit the thing took on a life of it's own
GOW3 was the last time a Sony First Party did over a million in NPD I believe? Not even TLOU and Uncharted 4 managed that though had tremendous sales and long legs. Think Sony just fast tracked the sequel, still hope Cory gets to make an original IP.
GOW3 was the last time a Sony First Party did over a million in NPD I believe? Not even TLOU and Uncharted 4 managed that though had tremendous sales and long legs. Think Sony just fast tracked the sequel, still hope Cory gets to make an original IP.
Yeah, with digital, HZD>1M.Think HZD also did around a million and was also a new IP .
TLOU got close if i remember and it was new if if get growth like UC it going to be huge .
True, but I know TLoU is going to get that big bump as it gets closer to launch like God of War did. If it is already much farther ahead, and we add the big bump that is to come......Keep in mind it shouldn't be too surprsing TLOU is tracking so well
First one was widely loved, overall faith in ND, and God of War was coming off of an entry most didn't care about. GoW didn't really blow up until late.
That said, to me TLOU Pt 2 has a much better chance of outselling GoW than Spidey does
TLOU will sell more than GOW both domestically and WW. TLOU is a monster.True, but I know TLoU is going to get that big bump as it gets closer to launch like God of War did. If it is already much farther ahead, and we add the big bump that is to come......
Interesting times ahead!
God of War is definitely going to make it tough for TLoU and Spidey either way.
TLOU Part II, looking at various social media metrics, are also very strong. At first glance, there's no 20mil views equivalent of GoW2's gameplay trailer, but combined views, views from non-PS channels, engagement numbers from those stuff are very very strong.
With only one game in the pocket, and without the spin-off test, it's hard to tell for sure, but it feels to me that TLOU is Sony's most fan-beloved IP right now, and the closest thing to what Zelda and Mario enjoys in in terms of extremely engaged fanbase in the Nintendo audience.
IIRC the reveal trailer for TLOU had more than 50k share on ND's Facebook page. That's so much more than GOW. Also TLOU is much stronger internationally than GOW and it will be stronger domestically.TLOU Part II, looking at various social media metrics, are also very strong. At first glance, there's no 20mil views equivalent of GoW2's gameplay trailer, but combined views, views from non-PS channels, engagement numbers from those stuff are very very strong.
With only one game in the pocket, and without the spin-off test, it's hard to tell for sure, but it feels to me that TLOU is Sony's most fan-beloved IP right now, and the closest thing to what Zelda and Mario enjoys in in terms of extremely engaged fanbase in the Nintendo audience.
I remember people saying reviews didn't matter.Yep. I think a big factor will be reviews.
I've mentioned it before but in terms of sales the difference beween say an 88 and a 90 Meta doesn't mean all that much.
But if you can get up into that 93 - 94 Meta range? Yeah that legit makes a difference. If TLOU can get into that territory like GoW did, I really wouldn't bet against it blowing up massively. Same could be said of Spidey of course but I need to see more real world consumer interest at the sort of level GoW / TLOU have before I strap myself to that train.
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Is GOW still showing strong legs this late in May?Yep. I think a big factor will be reviews.
I've mentioned it before but in terms of sales the difference beween say an 88 and a 90 Meta doesn't mean all that much.
But if you can get up into that 93 - 94 Meta range? Yeah that legit makes a difference. If TLOU can get into that territory like GoW did, I really wouldn't bet against it blowing up massively. Same could be said of Spidey of course but I need to see more real world consumer interest at the sort of level GoW / TLOU have before I strap myself to that train.
Except Nintendo, I expect Pokemon to launch just after
Yeah, Nintendo does not give a shit.
IIRC the reveal trailer for TLOU had more than 50k share on ND's Facebook page. That's so much more than GOW. Also TLOU is much stronger internationally than GOW and it will be stronger domestically.
I remember people saying reviews didn't matter.
It feels like they almost single handedly turned the tide for this game. Sony was super smart to put the embargo a whole week before the game released
I remember people saying reviews didn't matter.
It feels like they almost single handedly turned the tide for this game. Sony was super smart to put the embargo a whole week before the game released
Yeah, it depends on the type of game for sure. I definitely don't think they matter much for multiplayer service games.Well it really depends. Sometime they genuinely don't
Look at Ubisoft's service games.Ghost Recon for example only reviewed a 70 Meta and still was a huge seller, with very strong legs.
That's why I stressed the REALLY HIGH score, that 93-94 Meta range genuinely start to make a difference. Once you get into that sort of crazy range it builds buzz by itself. To be clear though GoW was always going to be very big / successful. The review scores just escalated it into a whole other tier
Well it really depends. Sometime they genuinely don't
Look at Ubisoft's service games.Ghost Recon for example only reviewed a 70 Meta and still was a huge seller, with very strong legs.
That's why I stressed the REALLY HIGH score, that 93-94 Meta range genuinely start to make a difference. Once you get into that sort of crazy range it builds buzz by itself. To be clear though GoW was always going to be very big / successful. The review scores just escalated it into a whole other tier
GOW3 was the last time a Sony First Party did over a million in NPD I believe? Not even TLOU and Uncharted 4 managed that though had tremendous sales and long legs. Think Sony just fast tracked the sequel, still hope Cory gets to make an original IP.
Terrible battery, replacement for breaking triggers. I've bought three and not because of how amazing the controller is.
This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.
All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up
Is Xbone microsofts WiiU? It almost seems brushed aside in sales threads now.
Wait so you complained they need to spend more to improve animation and then say animation has gotten better? huh?
Keep in mind it shouldn't be too surprsing TLOU is tracking so well
First one was widely loved, overall faith in ND, and God of War was coming off of an entry most didn't care about. GoW didn't really blow up until late.
That said, to me TLOU Pt 2 has a much better chance of outselling GoW than Spidey does
But it looks like it will EOL at 45-47 million units, with very healthy attach and digital purchase rates. This is several times higher than WiiU.
The fact that SW that ranked so low in the over all list ranks so high in the Xbox platform list indicates that the SW sales on XB1 are ... not great.
honestly at this pace i wouldn't be surprised to see MS start the next the gen in 2019.Bearing in mind that the Xbox One is (slowly) approaching 37 million units, and that it is currently up 15% YoY, even though I acknowledge that 2017 was a dismal year for the Xbox One, I find it a little bit difficult with 45-47 million being the EoL number, the latter figure of which would be almost exactly three and half times more units than the Wii U (13.56 million)!
Given that Microsoft goes crazy with bundles and prices, especially in both November and December respectively, I cannot see a scenario where they only sell another 8-10 million in the next two and a half years, between now and 2020.
Personally speaking, I think they will just about scrape by the 50 million milestone; 7 million this year, 4 or 5 million next year and a couple of million towards EoL for the Xbox One.
I know this the NPD thread, but the same applies for the PAL charts, which is the Xbox One second biggest market by a significant margin, and even that's shrinking all the time...
I would like to think that GamePass is 'making up' those low numbers however, there doesn't seem to be any real indication of just how many people are actually buying - and staying on -these service related products, seeing as Microsoft keeps those numbers to themselves.
Right, but that's my point- there's an association there. They recognize the brand.
Do you think they do that for Uncharted or God of War?
Game pass would explain the low first party software but not third party. It's a shame we don't get plaftorm share breakdown for games.Bearing in mind that the Xbox One is (slowly) approaching 37 million units, and that it is currently up 15% YoY, even though I acknowledge that 2017 was a dismal year for the Xbox One, I find it a little bit difficult with 45-47 million being the EoL number, the latter figure of which would be almost exactly three and half times more units than the Wii U (13.56 million)!
Given that Microsoft goes crazy with bundles and prices, especially in both November and December respectively, I cannot see a scenario where they only sell another 8-10 million in the next two and a half years, between now and 2020.
Personally speaking, I think they will just about scrape by the 50 million milestone; 7 million this year, 4 or 5 million next year and a couple of million towards EoL for the Xbox One.
I know this the NPD thread, but the same applies for the PAL charts, which is the Xbox One second biggest market by a significant margin, and even that's shrinking all the time...
I would like to think that GamePass is 'making up' those low numbers however, there doesn't seem to be any real indication of just how many people are actually buying - and staying on - these service related products, seeing as Microsoft keeps those numbers to themselves.