NPD April 2018: God of War #1 software, PS4 tops hardware charts

Deleted member 2785 · May 24, 2018

I think Xone goes full Win 10 with it and starts going with a Surface type strategy and there is no next gen for Xbox in the traditional sense. Just gets called Xbox and specs get refreshed every year or so but all the games work going forward. But who knows.

jayu26 · May 24, 2018

iclash said:
Is the Wii the best selling console of all-time? I always thought it never caught the PS2, or the Nintendo DS for that matter.

Wii's sales didn't just fall of a cliff, it committed suicide. Both PS1 and PS2 sold more than Wii. Soon PS4 will join them.

Stanng243 · May 24, 2018

Noobie said:
are people not going too far ahead?

GOW3 opened with over 1.1 million but its second month was not even 200k if i remember.
So 1.8-1.9 million first month is mighty impressive but i will not bet on its legs.
It will be impressive if second month is above 500k.

To hit 10+ million i think you need legs like Crash or TLOU. and although GOW is a fresh start but it is still a new entry in the series and existing series launch do not behave like a new IP in legs department. I think MatPiscatella or Benji can shed more light on the legs of a new entry in an existing series vs new IP.

It was over 5 million in a month globally. I think it will do okay.

KillerMan91 · May 24, 2018

jayu26 said:
Wii's sales didn't just fall of a cliff, it committed suicide. Both PS1 and PS2 sold more than Wii. Soon PS4 will join them.

I assume he is talking about US as this is NPD thread. In US PS2, DS and X360 are ahead of Wii in total hardware.

iclash · May 24, 2018

I was referring to this:

MatPiscatella said:
Y'all. C'mon now.

Switch is still on pace to be the second best-selling console OF ALL TIME (it's fallen behind Wii recently because the launch month timing has given Wii two holidays over the same number of months Switch has had one).

For some reason this made me think the Wii was the best selling console of all time and I was seeking clarification

Jmdajr · May 24, 2018

Happy to see a healthy industry. Bless my underpowered game consoles.

MegaSackman · May 24, 2018

MatPiscatella said:
I think Xone goes full Win 10 with it and starts going with a Surface type strategy and there is no next gen for Xbox in the traditional sense. Just gets called Xbox and specs get refreshed every year or so but all the games work going forward. But who knows.

Yeah but at some point games have to stop being made for the original Xbone... right?

Arkaign · May 24, 2018

Xeontech said:
Thank you for such a detailed response. Interesting to look at things from the bigger picture. So is Xbone in line to surpass 360 sales then? It looks like it won't quite make it to half 360 lifetime sales.

Lol yeah that was the PR push from Microsoft for a couple of solid years. "We're tracking above 360!", which was somewhat misleading because 360 was a bit of a slow burn on its was to an eventual ~80m. It will be a bit more than half in the end, but actually somewhat similar numbers in the US, while falling more dramatically overseas.

A great historic article from our very own Zhuge explains it with more context than the PR ever did :

http://gearnuke.com/september-2015-npd-sales-analysis-nba2k16-best-launch-sports-game-8th-gen/

Welfare · May 24, 2018

MegaSackman said:
Yeah but at some point games have to stop being made for the original Xbone... right?

Of course. Just like how the PC and mobile markets work.

Now when Microsoft introduces game streaming...

slavesnyder · May 24, 2018

it's disgusting how sony tries to exploit the death of single player gaming. that's the ugliest desecration since goodbye england's rose.

Jade1962 · May 24, 2018

iclash said:
I was referring to this:

For some reason this made me think the Wii was the best selling console of all time and I was seeking clarification

I got the same impression too. Thought 360 ended ahead of Wii in US eventully but maybe Wii won out in the end.

Limabean01 · May 24, 2018

Jade1962 said:
I got the same impression too. Thought 360 ended ahead of Wii in US eventully but maybe Wii won out in the end.

I'm pretty sure Wii was the fastest selling console, but it's eventual sharp decline meant that it didn't actually have too grea lifetime sales compared to other successful consoles.

Golvellius · May 24, 2018

Xeontech said:
This is more of what I meant comparing it to WiiU. Not so much sales numbers, but rather shortening this gen to launch a new better hardware to start next gen regardless of when they launched X. I could see it.

And if that happens, the EoL sales will be much lower than predicted for Xbone.

Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

Xeontech · May 24, 2018

Golvellius said:
Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

Lol not sure if serious... but wouldn't put it past them I guess

Bundy · May 24, 2018

Golvellius said:
Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

lol....no.

Renna Hazel · May 24, 2018

Golvellius said:
Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

What will the next Xbox be?

Noobie · May 24, 2018

Stanng243 said:
It was over 5 million in a month globally. I think it will do okay.

Have we got a new press release from Sony?

Benji said:
Keep in mind I'm referring to the type of game it is. Its legging as well as it could for a single player only narrative driven game.

Not like a CoD, GTAV, etc.

Thanks

MatPiscatella said:
As a non service game I expect God of War sales to be more frontloaded than historical comps, fwiw.

Thanks

DriftingSpirit · May 24, 2018

Noobie said:
Have we got a new press release from Sony?

Thanks

Thanks

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ko...onth-after-release.44656/page-10#post-8310805

Omnistalgic · May 24, 2018

MatPiscatella said:
I think Xone goes full Win 10 with it and starts going with a Surface type strategy and there is no next gen for Xbox in the traditional sense. Just gets called Xbox and specs get refreshed every year or so but all the games work going forward. But who knows.

Would probably make me buy an Xbox, right now though, the libraries are just too similar. It's super hard to care about Xbox library when you have a PS4\Switch

Memento · May 24, 2018

Benji said:
This honestly makes me wonder what the ceiling is for TLOU Pt 2.

All early metrics in terms of this far out from launch are far ahead of what GoW was putting up

Imagine if it is announced it has a Battle Royale mode

Ryng™ · May 25, 2018

Golvellius said:
Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

That's like Cheating.

Deleted member 2785 · May 25, 2018

Memento said:
Imagine if it is announced it has a Battle Royale mode

They could call that mode "The Last of Us"

v_iHuGi · May 25, 2018

Golvellius said:
Next Xbox won't be another gen, so sales of the next Xbox should be added to XB1 sales. Could see them pass 100M eventually.

And it'll still be outsold by Ps5 lmao

Next Xbox will be a new generation, hence X is called Xbox One.

Raijinto · May 25, 2018

OK now we're console warring about consoles that haven't even been announced.

Woof.

Ryng™ · May 25, 2018

v_iHuGi said:
And it'll still be outsold by Ps5 lmao

Next Xbox will be a new generation, hence X is called Xbox One.

We'll first have to see if X will still be considered a part of Xbox one

slavesnyder · May 25, 2018

MatPiscatella said:
They could call that mode "The Last of Us"

elliemination

Deleted member 2785 · May 25, 2018

slavesnyder said:
elliemination

Dammit that's good

Somnia · May 25, 2018

MatPiscatella said:
They could call that mode "The Last of Us"

And were done, shut the thread down this should be the final post in this thread lol

Deleted member 13101 · May 25, 2018

The trophy for winning that BR mode would read "You know, Ellie..."

Naner · May 25, 2018

Impressed at those Labo numbers. Very good stuff for God of War and Donkey Kong :)

Naner · May 25, 2018

KillerMan91 said:
It was going to fall behind Wii this year regardless of the launch dates. Just in 2008 April Wii sold more than 700k units.

I wouldn't be so sure. By March 2008 (two holiday seasons) the Wii had sold 24.5 million units. The Switch is already at nearly 20, so it'll easily pass that number by the end of this year. If Nintendo's forecasts are correct, the Switch will be at nearly 38 million units by March 2019. After that, who knows.

KillerMan91 · May 25, 2018

Naner said:
I wouldn't be so sure. By March 2008 (two holiday seasons) the Wii had sold 24.5 million units. The Switch is already at nearly 20, so it'll easily pass that number by the end of this year. If Nintendo's forecasts are correct, the Switch will be at nearly 38 million units by March 2019. After that, who knows.

Well I was talking about US but even globally end of March 2008 for Wii is the same as end of June 2018 for Switch so 6 quarters from launch. Switch was at 17.79 million at the end of march and will ship less than 3 million this quarter (probably even less than 2.5 million). It will be millions behind that 24.5 million figure at end of June. it's not going to gain on Wii after that either. Even if they hit their target of 20 million this FY Wii shipped 25.95 million during FY2008 (by end of March 2009).

slavesnyder · May 26, 2018

comparing wii to switch sales numbers is senseless and a little unfair.
switch is a hybrid, so we should compare it to wii and ds sales numbers combined.

Animal Liberation Ⓥ · May 26, 2018

Xeontech said:
Lol not sure if serious... but wouldn't put it past them I guess

Maybe in 10 years then if this is the metric.

UltraMagnus · May 26, 2018

XBox One will still probably end up somewhere in the range of 50 million sold ... Nintendo or Sega would likely tap dance down the street naked if the Wii U, GCN, Saturn, or Dreamcast could've hit that number.

Slam Tilt · May 26, 2018

slavesnyder said:
switch is a hybrid, so we should compare it to wii and ds sales numbers combined.

That only works if you assume everyone owned either a Wii or a DS, but not both.

MisterBurnsloe · May 26, 2018

headspawn said:
Damn, what did MS do to Minecraft?

Kind of weird not seeing it on here.

Fortnite?

cakely · May 26, 2018

MatPiscatella said:
They could call that mode "The Last of Us"

slavesnyder said:
elliemination

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slavesnyder · May 26, 2018

Slam Tilt said:
That only works if you assume everyone owned either a Wii or a DS, but not both.

if you own both you have two consoles you buy games for. if two people each have one it's technically the same.

Xeontech · May 26, 2018

slavesnyder said:
if you own both you have two consoles you buy games for. if two people each have one it's technically the same.

Technically the WiiU should also be included in those numbers.

So WiiU was best and fastest selling console of all time, adding Wii and DS numbers.

Holy sht! WiiU was the beast we all wanted it to be!

Kaveri · May 27, 2018

Do we have any indications on how State of Decay 2, Detroit or Dark Souls Remastered performed? It is obviously still early but I'm really hoping all three did well.

MrTired · May 27, 2018

Kaveri said:
Do we have any indications on how State of Decay 2, Detroit or Dark Souls Remastered performed? It is obviously still early but I'm really hoping all three did well.

UK chart will be the first indicator of those games performance.

Respawn · May 27, 2018

potentialtodisplease said:
Hey maybe now the dev team can afford some better animators and some people that actually care about pushing the graphics and franchise into the next gen. MLB THE SHOW has been stale for years. It's a great game if it is your first time for sure, but I'm tired of it. I wish them all the best.

Hope youre not a Madden fan.

potentialtodisplease · May 27, 2018

Respawn said:
Hope youre not a Madden fan.

No, and one day hope I can be though. The games get better, but sometimes with the sports genre it just seems things go backward and forward in the most awkward ways throughout the years.

I have faith The Show can polish things up for next year. I know one day I will be impressed with the game again. It goes for all the sports games in some ways. And we know Baseball with its outdoor lighting is going to be tougher than some games especially since you have so many custom animations to deal with, but I still feel the game is not quite where it should be this deep into the PS4 cycle. It's just my one opinion. I just want something that is gonna push the PS4 Pro next year.

Cthulhu_Steev · May 27, 2018

MrTired said:
UK chart will be the first indicator of those games performance.

We have a bank holiday this weekend as well, so they'll likely be a day late.

Deleted member 4976 · May 28, 2018

Interesting tidbit from Shinobi:

The Order 1886 was profitable.

Bioshocker · May 28, 2018

Primethius said:
Interesting tidbit from Shinobi:

The Order 1886 was profitable.

Actually a bit surprising. Do we have an estimate of how it did?

Bioshocker · May 28, 2018

Happy to see GoW doing really well, looking forward to playing it this summer.

Y2Kev · May 28, 2018

Well the Order went on to sell like six bazillion copies and is considered a treasure by many so that makes sense. It also has a 63 on Metacritic, but as you know all games that start with the word The and then the first letter of the next word is O get 30 points added to the Metascore (it is in the French constitution).

cw_sasuke · May 28, 2018

slavesnyder said:
comparing wii to switch sales numbers is senseless and a little unfair.
switch is a hybrid, so we should compare it to wii and ds sales numbers combined.

This never gets old - goalpost keeps getting moved instead of just accepting that the Switch is a success.

But nah...we have to compare it to 250 million systems sold between DS/Wii lol.

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