Whatever the price of PS5 ($399 or $499), they'll sell every consoles available during the first months.
A $500 Xbox sold over a million, I'm sure they will do the same if not more.There is just no way how PS5 or Scarlett could outsell Switch in 2020. For that they must have unprecedent sales in launch month and Switch sales must fall of a cliff simultaneously.
I don't even think that both new consoles will even reach PS4/XOne launch numbers. After the long PS360 life time many gamers really wanted a new console and the price, especially for the PS4, was reasonable. A expensive PS5 will not get that much interested for launch.
There is just no way how PS5 or Scarlett could outsell Switch in 2020. For that they must have unprecedent sales in launch month and Switch sales must fall of a cliff simultaneously.
I don't even think that both new consoles will even reach PS4/XOne launch numbers. After the long PS360 life time many gamers really wanted a new console and the price, especially for the PS4, was reasonable. A expensive PS5 will not get that much interested for launch.
I think you are either overestimating what a console sell in its first year or underestimating the numbers the Switch could do in 2021.I fully expect at least the ps5 yo outsell switch right out of the gate and continue to do so for pretty much every month afterwards
This generation had the PS4 Pro and One X midgen upgrades to satisfy the demand - i dont think people that are playing current gen games in 2K/4K already are as thirsty for a new set of 500USD consoles as it was from PS360 to PS4.PS4 and PS3 will have been on the market for an equal amount of time before their successor launches, assuming PS5 is fall 2020.
about the previous conversation, I don't think BOTW NSW will overtake Odyssey WW.
Especially if BOTW2 hits before Odyssey 2
I believe there's a chance BOTW 2 launches around the time PS5 and Scarlett launch. Would definitely be interesting to see the results if it happens. Not to mention the guaranteed Pokemon release.
Sonic be likeNintendo livin' the dream and Crash just a little below enjoying the spotlight while poor Sonic is just burning in hell.
weird statement, since I didn't say the first part and the 2nd part doesn't apply. If Botw got a big price drop Mario would.BotW wont stop selling just because a sequel is released.
Quite the opposite, especially if Nintendo decides to drop the price of their early gen evergreens.
weird statement, since I didn't say the first part and the 2nd part doesn't apply. If Botw got a big price drop Mario would.
anyway, nsw Zelda is at 12.77m as of 3/31. Odyssey is at 14.44. A difference of 1.67 million.
Last FY Zelda sold 4.3m compared to Odyssey's 4.04 million. That's a a 0.26 million difference.
At that current pace it'd take
6.42 years from now for it to overtake. Sales of both would presumably slow down when the next hardware released though.
Now The other factors of course is bundles, pricing, and sequels.
What we know so far is that BOTW has a sequel announced. Obivously that wouldn't kill BOTW1 sales, but it'd decrease them a little.
The same thing can happen to Mario. I think Odyssey 2 for sure will come. So when that comes it can affect sales.
And then which games get bundled will play a huge role.
But going on the information we have now, this is how it looks
yeah it's going to sell for NSW's entire life. Even though it has a sequel announced, it's not impossible Odysssey 2 will hit before BOTW 2. So that'd be interesting as well.I was only commenting on the idea that BotW-sequel would result in the first game selling - i dont think thats going to happen.
Dont know if BotW will outsell SMO when its said and done -both are great games and the best selling games of their respective (sub)series so it doesnt really matter.
Actually, could that do the opposite and convince more people to check out the original before the sequel hits?weird statement, since I didn't say the first part and the 2nd part doesn't apply. If Botw got a big price drop Mario would.
anyway, nsw Zelda is at 12.77m as of 3/31. Odyssey is at 14.44. A difference of 1.67 million.
Last FY Zelda sold 4.3m compared to Odyssey's 4.04 million. That's a a 0.26 million difference.
At that current pace it'd take
6.42 years from now for it to overtake. Sales of both would presumably slow down when the next hardware released though.
Now The other factors of course is bundles, pricing, and sequels.
What we know so far is that BOTW has a sequel announced. Obivously that wouldn't kill BOTW1 sales, but it'd decrease them a little.
The same thing can happen to Mario. I think Odyssey 2 for sure will come. So when that comes it can affect sales.
And then which games get bundled will play a huge role.
But going on the information we have now, this is how it looks
for the month it releases yea I think BOTW1 would get a bump, like we see with the old pokemon each year. but afterwards it'd trail off.Actually, could that do the opposite and convince more people to check out the original before the sequel hits?
Last quarter, BotW shipped 1.09m to Odyssey's 0.68m. We'll get this latest quarter update at the end of the month, but we're seeing a similar pattern everywhere...Japan, US, Europe and all their respective eshops... Zelda is holding strong while Oddyssey is fading. Unless something changes, I see BotW closing the gap by next March.weird statement, since I didn't say the first part and the 2nd part doesn't apply. If Botw got a big price drop Mario would.
anyway, nsw Zelda is at 12.77m as of 3/31. Odyssey is at 14.44. A difference of 1.67 million.
Last FY Zelda sold 4.3m compared to Odyssey's 4.04 million. That's a a 0.26 million difference.
At that current pace it'd take
6.42 years from now for it to overtake. Sales of both would presumably slow down when the next hardware released though.
Now The other factors of course is bundles, pricing, and sequels.
What we know so far is that BOTW has a sequel announced. Obivously that wouldn't kill BOTW1 sales, but it'd decrease them a little.
The same thing can happen to Mario. I think Odyssey 2 for sure will come. So when that comes it can affect sales.
And then which games get bundled will play a huge role.
But going on the information we have now, this is how it looks
I think you're underestimating the effect of the PS5's $500+ price versus Nintendo's more affordable $200 Switch Mini. Revenue the PS5 can win, but hardware units are a tougher fight.I fully expect at least the ps5 yo outsell switch right out of the gate and continue to do so for pretty much every month afterwards
yea, zelda is definitely closing the gap the way things are trending. With odyssey fading, BOTW is making up groundLast quarter, BotW shipped 1.09m to Odyssey's 0.68m. We'll get this latest quarter update at the end of the month, but we're seeing a similar pattern everywhere...Japan, US, Europe and all their respective eshops... Zelda is holding strong while Oddyssey is fading. Unless something changes, I see BotW closing the gap by next March.
MLB the show is still in the top 10 for Year to DateIs it just me or Sony exclusives have way better legs nowadays than previous generations? Even compared with the beginning of this one.
This is amazing!
God of War was out a year and like 3 months ago and Spider-Man almost a year ago!
well, if i am remembering correctly, people were saying that switch will easily take every month from now on until next gen starts. i only begged to differ.Who is saying that lol ?
PS4 is yet to reach its final form - as in a even slimmer version at 200 bucks.
That sounds about right. The PS4 is in decline at this point and I don't think price drops will do much to change that meanwhile this year and next should be close to or at the Switch's peakwell, if i am remembering correctly, people were saying that switch will easily take every month from now on until next gen starts. i only begged to differ.
Oh...I don't think it's gonna outsell the Switch again but it still has alot of shelve life left.well, if i am remembering correctly, people were saying that switch will easily take every month from now on until next gen starts. i only begged to differ.
Plus there are plenty of people who will want to get a Switch and check out BOTW before the sequel. I think worldwide it passes it. And all these kids getting Switches and Mario May eventually give BOTW a shot once they grow into the open world experiences.yeah it's going to sell for NSW's entire life. Even though it has a sequel announced, it's not impossible Odysssey 2 will hit before BOTW 2. So that'd be interesting as well.
I don't know if it will either. I've heard it said a lot so I gave my thoughts. I mean, my exact quote was just:
"about the previous conversation, I don't think BOTW NSW will overtake Odyssey WW.
Especially if BOTW2 hits before Odyssey 2 "
It wasn't a big declaration.
but
Christo750
did note that Odyssey is dropping more than Zelda in JP, NPD.
So if NSW Zelda can close the gap quicker, before BOTW2 comes out, who knows.
However, a 200 dollar switch and Odyssey (which sells better at Christmas usually) could be an interesting twist though.
It's all just speculation
Sadly.
Nice! I was expecting an underperformance at 1-2 million units based on low pre-sales. Maybe the SDCC hype helpedAccording to Benji MUA3 has had a very impressive first 48 hours, after poor preorders. He seems to think it could be the third biggest launch of the year so far for Switch, behind NSMBUDX and SMM2.
According to Benji MUA3 has had a very impressive first 48 hours, after poor preorders. He seems to think it could be the third biggest launch of the year so far for Switch, behind NSMBUDX and SMM2.
According to Benji MUA3 has had a very impressive first 48 hours, after poor preorders. He seems to think it could be the third biggest launch of the year so far for Switch, behind NSMBUDX and SMM2.
Wow even better than Yoshi? I'm assuming Fire Emblem gonna go crazy next weekend.According to Benji MUA3 has had a very impressive first 48 hours, after poor preorders. He seems to think it could be the third biggest launch of the year so far for Switch, behind NSMBUDX and SMM2.
Yeah I'm surprised NSMBU Deluxe and BOTW are still in the top 20 but Mario Odyssey isn't.Impressed that Super Mario Maker 2 was #1 for the month without digital included and the fact that New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe made Top 20.
This is insane :O End is truly shocking but also I could not help but laugh at the reaction.
Wow even better than Yoshi? I'm assuming Fire Emblem gonna go crazy next weekend.
If Sony comes out all guns firing I think even a $500 PS5 will outsell the Switch rather consistently even with stuff like Pokemon and Animal Crossing.
Which guns should that be? Only way this would happen if these guns shoot the 500$ price in half.
PS5 will likely be priced higher than PS4 at launch, and PS4 had the advantage that people desperately wanted new hardware after an "endless" PS3/Wii/XBox360 gen and that Microsoft and Nintendo shoot themselves in the foot with XBox marketing and WiiU.
So even if the PS5 would be launch at the same price the PS4 launched, it will probably sell less the first year.
Even if the PS5 sells as much in its first year as the PS4 did, I'm not sure why that'll allow it to overtake the Switch immediately, unless the Switch's sales fall off hard, which, considering that it's sales are only picking up, despite not having had a single price drop, makes it rather unlikelyI'm not sure why the urge to buy the newest hottest piece of tech is somehow diminissed going into next gen. People have been clamoring for a new Switch model and the current one isn't even losing steam. I'd argue Sony is in a much much stronger position on all fronts going into next gen than they were coming into this one so if they capitalize on the fact then yes, I think they can do as good as the PS4 even with a higher price tag.
I'm not sure why the urge to buy the newest hottest piece of tech is somehow diminissed going into next gen. People have been clamoring for a new Switch model and the current one isn't even losing steam. I'd argue Sony is in a much much stronger position on all fronts going into next gen than they were coming into this one so if they capitalize on the fact then yes, I think they can do as good as the PS4 even with a higher price tag.