Ooooooooo. Okay. I did realise that when they stated they watch blurays on their Switch
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NPD May 2018: State of Decay 2 #1 software, PS4 tops hardware charts
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Ooooooooo. Okay. I did realise that when they stated they watch blurays on their Switch
This is God of War's second month. It has sold a great deal more than State of Decay 2.
Not really, PS4 is gonna end up being the greatest console of all time.
I forgot GOW came out last month... still, SoD2 has really impressive sale numbers, hats off to them.
It is, and yet it isn't; different demographies for one. The other one is game library, while Nintendo is excellent, there are some people who want AC, God of War, or a realistic racer. That is not to say Nintendo does not offer good games, on the contrary, it's just that there are people who prefer other consoles over Nintendo.
And the casual crowd maybe also loves to spend free time on social media instead of (semi-)portable consoles.
I believe the Nintendo demographic overall is much more smaller; if you compare the last 25-30 years of Nintendo consoles; SNES; N64, GC, Wii, Wii U, then ONLY Wii sold more than 50 million consoles in it's lifetime.
Though Nintendo DS users transitioning to Switch could add to it's success.
There are stil many more months for Switch to return to it's PS2/Wii level of sale speed, so let's hope they will get there again :-)
The idea that companies would continue with a lower margin, higher risk business model simply to satisfy consumer choice is, frankly, absurd.
See how easy being dismissive with a vague but authoritative statement is?
I don't agree with Mat's assessment. He wouldn't agree with mine.
Seems to me Windows Store ain't all that bad if people are buying the games from them. Or maybe the problems only matter when the sales aren't concerned.
With SOD2 and SOT both being polarizing games(some like them a lot, some hate them) and both doing poorly critically but still selling well and they both seam to help get gamepass great exposure. I can't wait for great games to come to the subscription to see how they sell and what they do for gamepass. Starts with Forza.
Just so you can see how SoD 2 did.
Year to Date
- Far Cry 5
- God of War 2018
- Monster Hunter: World
- Call of Duty: WWII
- Dragon Ball: Fighterz
- Grand Theft Auto V
- NBA 2K18
- MLB 18: The Show
- Mario Kart 8*
- Playerunknown's Battlegrounds^
It really, really isn't. It's complete nonsense to believe that Microsoft would gut their revenue streams when all available data indicates a correlative rise in software sales. People still buy games, and they're buying them in a higher volume than ever before. No reasonable assessment should arrive at the conclusion that Microsoft will cease to sell games to consumers.
I think that one needs to take into account these are not the typical 5 years into a console's life - the PS4 Pro, which is not your typical midlife revision but a PS4.5 has been released, and as more and more new games come out that perform so so on PS4 but much better on PS4 Pro, the pressure mounts on PS4 owners to move on (and many do).
In a way this is similar to the Kinect which gave the 360 a new life when "normally" the 360 should have been on a downwards path.
So, though there are some other factors as well, it has less to do with the Switch, and more to do with the PS4 Pro, imo.
Did you miss the part where I said long term? I'm talking about the next 5-15 years and I've provided two examples of how the rental model has developed in mature manufacturing and entertainment content industries.
If you can tell me why game development will be different from them or indeed different from the Enterprise software market where SaaS-only products are becoming commonplace (i.e. you can't buy the software or continue to use it after you finish paying your service fee) please go ahead.
Also - correlation doesn't imply causation.
With his answer to the quesetion "But if such a game can even outsell the critically vastly superior God of War, then why develop highly rated games at all?" ? No he isn't.
About what? He was comparing the game to GoW, what I posted is relevant.
With Sea of Thieves and State of Decay 2 both doing very well, I wonder how much of an explosion Forza Horizon 4 will cause. Should be absolutely huge, because in addition to Game Pass, this game will (probably) hit with a high Metacritic.
Obviously can't be #1 because of RDR2, but still the numbers will be interesting.
Obviously can't be #1 because of RDR2, but still the numbers will be interesting.
It's the second month for God of War and the first for SoD2...
Im mean, Switch early year been nothing to write home about while PS4 released it magnum opus opus so far, Nintendo saved all his eggs for the holiday so far (MP, Smash, Not Pokemon GO (its yellow :p)
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Personally I rather wonder why no one question the future of Microsoft as they seem to be always in the last place, Gen after Gen after Gen.
Being last isn't inherently bad though. At the moment, MS seems to be doing fine (at least in the US).
iirc several of their gen end up in red, saving grace being, well, Microsoft, so they can shoulder it
Arguably they were in 2nd place last gen, outselling PS3.
I say arguably because some people feel otherwise, but there's no hard evidence (people point a lot to an unsourced IHS report but ignore other things like actual PR). Maybe it was essentially a tie.
They are also in 2nd this gen and despite popular opinion Switch overtaking them is not automatic, or at least will take 2+ more years, and also you could say something snarky about Nintendo needing to release 2 generations (Wii U failed, then Switch) to do it. I guess then you could bring up the X, but that's kind of as different matter and more comparable to Ps4 Pro.
Microsoft probably cares more about revenue coming in than selling consoles. They are looking at what generates cash for them and you see from their quarterly earnings the Xbox gaming business is still a billion-dollar business. People often get fooled by console sales as if it a sign Microsoft is doing badly. Sure they want to sell consoles to have more gamers playing their games and using live, but they are equally as happy when gamers are buying their games on PC and are buying a gamepass subscription, its money coming in. Just my opinion on this.
To compare what's going on in the music industry to what's currently going on in the video gaming industry in this fashion totally disregards the difference in file sizes. Pretty much anyone can greatly benefit from digital music services regardless of the quality of their internet connection. The same isn't true for a service that pushes digital gaming.
You're comparison and fear mongering is ridiculous. Game Pass is simply an option for people that want it.
Mhm, I agree. With stuff like GamePass doing well, MS knows where to look for the money.
Around 90 million I think..?
3DS approx 76 million + Wii U last official number of 13.5 million.
true. games also have far higher budgets than music. i cannot see a diverse and healthy industrie living on flatrates alone. might be nice for those who own the channels, but not for content creators.
Game boy is +100.000.000 ?
DS is at +150.000.000 ?
Nintendo home console have not been that successful historically
This is the first gen Microsoft's been in "last place" and it's really just for a half gen.
thanks. do you think that since Switch is both hh and home console, 89.5 million is a reasonable lifetime sales estimate?
Even if SoD2 did sell as well as GoW (it didnt) why would this disincentivize developing games that would be well received critically? Doing so would only boost sales further and encourage people to invest in the ecosystem who haven't already.
Continuing to Offer both subscription services AND the option to buy is the lower risk, higher margin option.
Expecting companies to completely eliminate the direct sale model that, thanks to digital distribution, is pushing margins through the roof, is frankly absurd.
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as a hybrid, the revolutionary concept of the switch is completely new and not comparable to other consoles.
for the first time in history gamers can freely choose if they want their console to collect dust under the tv or in their backpack.
Last gen they ended third even with one year more on the market even if the 360 was a successfull machine.
Not in NPD. They were 2nd and then 1st when Wii collapsed in 2010/2011. They nearly doubled PS3 sales in the US.
Switch is next gen. Wii U is 3rd place this gen, XB1 2nd.
They were third, while launching a year later. Even according to EEDAR (an NPD Group Company) the PS3 outsold the Xbox 360 worldwide.
Slightly less than SNES + early GB, N64 + later GB, and Gamecube + GBA.
Sorry i forgot this is an NPD thread i was thinking at a global scale.
