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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
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I'm not sure a single person ever said they were expecting 2+ million. A few people were kind of hoping to see it because that would be crazy and awesome but no one expected that.
It outsold the PS4 by 500K last year with no smash bros and with the PS4 having much better deals.
God of War just won't die! Also figured that PS4 led in unit sales and Switch led in a revenue. This month is going to be interesting because so many people are under the impression that Switch is going to sell like 3-4 million units and Xbone and PS4 will only sell like 900K. Surely the sales can't be that skewed.
It's a newer system it should be
Outselling by a million is a stretch
I know the market essentially ignored the wii U but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. That's also ignoring the 3DS. Not sure what you mean lol.
Last year was PS4 > XBOX >> Switch in November, with Switch taking the lead in december.
The fact that all 3 is basically tied is a huge win for every manufacturer, but also proves extrapolating last year's results to this year is probably not helpful.
Switch having a huge december title will certainly help them keep the momentum, but lots of people who predicted the same PS4> XBOX >> Switch split for this November got it wrong. Benji was right, and people kept arguing with him about it.
The fact that all 3 is basically tied is a huge win for every manufacturer, but also proves extrapolating last year's results to this year is probably not helpful.
Switch having a huge december title will certainly help them keep the momentum, but lots of people who predicted the same PS4> XBOX >> Switch split for this November got it wrong. Benji was right, and people kept arguing with him about it.
Switch could very well sell something ridiculous like 2.5 mil, while the PS4 may not even hit 1 million.
We still get it. This year was no different with the lack of campaign
Pro would have to sell 1:1 with base ps4 to match Switch asp this month, just what did you think it did?
While the PS4 doesn't have any price cuts its not like there is no demand for the system. PS4 with COD is still a very attratice bundle and demand for the system is still there.
Sony seems to be focusing on growing their VR base though.
Sony seems to be focusing on growing their VR base though.
What is the gap right now? I believe it's around 600-700K. The switch should be able to close that gap but it's far from guaranteed.
I do think 2.5+ million predictions for the switch may be very premature. Let's not forget that there are no cyber Monday numbers this year for December. I still think 2 million can happen but anything above that would be pretty crazy.
Definitely were ppl expecting 2m. Go back and look in the thread about the $200 ps4 selling out. More than a few were saying 2m
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Going back to Fallout 76.
Whilst the game didn't bomb. It's probably worth noting that FO4 sold 3x more than New Vegas did in its opening month. So FO76 not doing as well as New Vegas should show how poorly FO76 did in comparison to the last game. Granted, digital sales aren't included.
I'm expecting FO76 sales to fall fairly drastically next month.
Whilst the game didn't bomb. It's probably worth noting that FO4 sold 3x more than New Vegas did in its opening month. So FO76 not doing as well as New Vegas should show how poorly FO76 did in comparison to the last game. Granted, digital sales aren't included.
I'm expecting FO76 sales to fall fairly drastically next month.
Curiously they have it at 199/299(base/pro) this December in Europe(in addition to VR sales) its like they prioritize one market at a time.
It'll be interesting to see how holiday totals compare in the end, last year EU deals weren't great IIRC.
Insiders seem to think PS4 is going to be down YoY in december and Switch significantly up YoY
Going by the 500k difference last december, 1 million isn't a stretch
I don't think anyone is saying there is no demand for the PS4 just that it's unlikely to be up this year. Considering the switch sold 500K more last year without smash that's why people are expecting a sizeable gap.
I was posting in those threads. Just because people were saying that was an extreme scenario doesn't mean they were 'expecting' it. No one considered that a likely scenario.
So a few thoughts
This month is pretty incredible in terms of how close all 3 are. Xbox seriously over performed in terms of expectations
Spyro is going phenomenal
Combined November + December is going to see the PS4 down quite significantly YoY in terms of holiday performance. Sony prioritized profit over units but its still going to be quite a drop.
Any questions?
This month is pretty incredible in terms of how close all 3 are. Xbox seriously over performed in terms of expectations
Spyro is going phenomenal
Combined November + December is going to see the PS4 down quite significantly YoY in terms of holiday performance. Sony prioritized profit over units but its still going to be quite a drop.
Any questions?
Digital numbers are not included for Bethesda games. FO is a popular franchise. Let's see how it does in December.
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It didn't before though. In the thread it says the OP was updated for clarity.
It didn't before though. In the thread it says the OP was updated for clarity.
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Do you see Xbox staying flat for December (unless your comment above is related to both months)?
Nintendo's console made the most total revenue as in units sold * MSRP
PlayStation 4 consoles sold the highest number of units.
At the prices for most of the Black Friday period, The PS4 (starting at $199) family would need to sell more than 20% more PS4s than the Switch family units sold (assuming the split for Pro ($399) is 25% of total PS4 unit sales) to match or exceed revenue brought in by the Switch at the current price difference. That's pretty much unrealistic with the rate at which Switch normally keeps pace with PS4 sales.
I was posting in that thread too. No one mentioned extreme scenarios. Come on now. Hindsight and all but no need to defend those that expected 2m
Which makes sense as its exclusives are so far the biggest games it has received thus far
Which makes people confusion as to how it continues to sell stupidly well all the more confusing. Even as someone who doesn't like it knows that the game is among the absolute best, if not the best, selling game every year
Overall, good numbers, but depressing that Hitman 2 didn't even chart. Damned shame. Such a great game, and IOI really put in the work.
I'm expecting both PS4 and Xbox One down YoY in December as of now. That said between the 2 PS4 has an easier road ahead if it wants to stay flat as last year was fairly soft for it. Though this year isnt looking like it will see growth
Smash Week 2 was comparable to its week 1 tbh
PS4
I'm kind of bummed too, I bought it (Gold edition and the last one).
- Red Dead Redemption II
- Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII
- Fallout 76*
- Battlefield V
- NBA 2K19
- Spyro Reignited Trilogy
- Madden NFL 19
- Marvel's Spider-Man
- FIFA 19
- Assassin's Creed: Odyssey
- Red Dead Redemption II
- Call of Duty: Black Ops IIII
- Battlefield V
- Fallout 76*
- Madden NFL 19
- NBA 2K19
- Assassin's Creed: Odyssey
- FIFA 19
- Spyro Reignited Trilogy
- Forza Horizon 4
- Pokemon: Lets Go Pikachu
- Pokemon: Lets Go Eevee
- Super Mario Part
- Mario Kart 8
- Super Mario Odyssey
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
- Just Dance 2019
- Crash Bandicoot: N. Sane Trilogy
- Mario & Rabbids: Kingdom Battle
- Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
I'm kind of bummed too, I bought it (Gold edition and the last one).
Switch was much closer to PS4 than most people expected with that Spidey bundle even in limited numbers.
Nintendo are on a tear at the moment. Great to see Xbox improve too for such a healthy industry.
Who was the person on Gaf who predicted doom for dedicated consoles just because WiiU bombed and Xbox One didn't start too hot in every single NPD thread. I'd love to hear his thoughts now lol.
Did you just miss the best April ever for PlayStation hardware with God of War?
Ummm I mean the switch doesn't even have those titles to begin with so you wouldn't really know if First party will outsell the third party...
Is Xenoblade Dead already, sales wise? DQXI? Diablo? Any unexpected surprise?
RPG lover here, thanks for any information in advance!
Does that somehow make my point invalid? Show me where I said exclusives are not important.
When wad the last time we saw third party dominate a Nintendo console line-up in the top 10?
given that Spyro is doing well and Crash is still in the charts for the Switch, would Spyro Switch be a pretty big missed opportunity considering the lack of competition, barring old games, on the switch
Does anyone think switch gets an official price cut prior to E3 or does thing hold its price until holiday 2019?
I'm ignoring the switch rumoured revision for now.
I'm ignoring the switch rumoured revision for now.
