Asymmetric multiplayer was (and is) a great gaming idea. Problem is that video gaming is too reliant on single-player experiences to build an entire console around the concept.
A Nintendo game winning any award in general will naturally bring out a lot of salt :PStill won despite those other games you mentioned. I remember since there was a lot of salt over that.
That and a lot of Zelda games actually don't win a lot of awards like Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and almost all the handheld games. Out of the Zelda games: Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, and Breath of the Wild got a lot of rewards.
Not counting Zelda 1 to Link to the Past since those games predate mainstream awards.
A Nintendo game winning any award in general will naturally bring out a lot of salt :P
There is that but I'd argue that, considering the prestige the series holds, it's a bit odd that their main 3D entries aren't as big contenders for GotY as you'd think they would
I won't deny that, albeit I don't think the fanbase is as split as people would have you believeWithin the game community, Zelda is a giant broken base. Like some believe the last good Zelda before Breath of the Wild was Ocarina of Time. While some extremes claim only the first game was good.
The only game community more broken is Final Fantasy. Another series don't really don't get many awards despite its prestige.
That and overall, most GOTY tend to go to western games with few exceptions like 3D Mario Metal Gear Solid.
asymmetric multiplayer was definitely a fad. there's some interesting analysis to be had there
This says WAY more about trends at retail (better product reach on day one) than it does about the game's impact on the brand pre-BotW.And Skyward Sword hardly hurt the brand when it still was the fastest selling Zelda game even when Nintendo left the Wii to die in 2011.
I won't deny that, albeit I don't think the fanbase is as split as people would have you believe
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Folk online aren't as good of an indication as they'd like to thinkMaybe not, but Zelda has a very vocal fanbase who wants to pretend they speak for everyone. Most fans just enjoy the series and all its different aspects.
This says WAY more about trends at retail (better product reach on day one) than it does about the game's impact on the brand pre-BotW.
It's how well the game sells AFTER launch that tells you how well it was received.
https://gematsu.com/2019/01/ps4-wor...ion-marvels-spider-man-sales-top-nine-million
The recent report that mentioned Sony selling 5.6 million units during holiday worldwide seems to point towards a very weak december for them in the US.
Yeah. The numbers they provided are great and all, but it's all the stuff they didn't talk about that I found interesting (and telling.)https://gematsu.com/2019/01/ps4-wor...ion-marvels-spider-man-sales-top-nine-million
The recent report that mentioned Sony selling 5.6 million units during holiday worldwide seems to point towards a very weak december for them in the US.
Wii shipped over 17m in 2010 and launched huge sellers like Mario Galaxy 2, Wii Party, DKCR, Epic Mickey, Goldeneye, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Just Dance 2, etc. That wasn't exactly a problem year.I think you're forgetting the threat of Nintendo completely losing the script and the headline software trending more toward stuff no one really wants, which was also a big problem for Wii in 2010-11.
The stuff they talk about in this PR has been the same last 4 years. Not sure how its 'telling' anything different from last year. Other than being down 2m for the year that is.but it's all the stuff they didn't talk about that I found interesting (and telling.)
For example? This is their usual PR about holiday season sales + info about software + update on PS4 LTD sales.Yeah. The numbers they provided are great and all, but it's all the stuff they didn't talk about that I found interesting (and telling.)
Smash has the very high expectations of being the best exclusive debut month ever for NPD.Wonder how Smash did overall in December.
Seems like might have beaten everyone's expectations.
Pretty much any other type of #s or stats they could have bragged about (like Spidey) but didn't. But like Benji said, we're for the others to drop their PR to complete the rest of the puzzle.
What puzzle? It's clear that Switch is going to be best selling console in USA. Worldwide i'm not sure if we'are talking about sell through , but shipments should be higher.Pretty much any other type of #s or stats they could have bragged about (like Spidey.) But like Benji said, we're for the others to drop their PR so complete the rest of the puzzle.
Piecing together the whole sales story is what these threads are all about. Sony provided the pieces that they can tout to make themselves look good, therefore we need the other pieces, etc.
Sorry , i really don't understand. Maybe i missed something in this thread, don't have a lot time to check the forum these days.Piecing together the whole sales story is what these threads are all about. Sony provided the pieces that they can tout to make themselves look good, therefore we need the other pieces, etc.
Which would still be big since 1.6 is apparently the highest this gen.
https://gematsu.com/2019/01/ps4-wor...ion-marvels-spider-man-sales-top-nine-million
https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2019/190108.html
The recent report that mentioned Sony selling 5.6 million units during holiday worldwide seems to point towards a very weak december for them in the US.
How does that point to a weak December? 5.6 million is right in line with some of the best holidays the PS4 has ever had.
- Holiday 2013: 4.2m
- Holiday 2014: 4.1m
- Holiday 2015: 5.7m
- Holiday 2016: 6.2m
- Holiday 2017: 5.9m
- Holiday 2018: 5.6m
Guess it depends on what the breakdown is between US and EU/Asia sales.
Beacuse 5.6m include Black Friday and Sony this year had a very huge Black Friday with their bundles and price cuts.
Beacuse 5.6m include Black Friday and Sony this year had a very huge Black Friday with their bundles and price cuts.
Still not weak by any means. There's bundles and sales every year.
Beacuse 5.6m include Black Friday and Sony this year had a very huge Black Friday with their bundles and price cuts.
The 20M units figure for Red Dead 3 is worldwide, not only in the US. And Red Dead Redemption II outsell Black Ops 4 in many countries.Quick question, is Black Ops 4 still the best selling game this year?
Red Dead 2 is said to have sold close to $20 million units, so BO4 is above or close to $20 million units sold as well, right?
I don't want to play Captain Obvious and I respect your remark. However, this is an NPD thread. We speak specifically about the sales in North America during the last three months.Sony has their second best year yet Era keeps clinging on NPD December sales.
The question is if and when they cut the price in 2019 to keep the numbers high.You're exactly right. Sony has done an excellent job keeping momentum this gen but I think 2019 will see some of the lowest numbers for them in a while. They should still have a pretty successful launch of the PS5 in 2020 and I'm really excited to see what they have planned.
If you read the thread then you'd see people actually talk about everything here even if it's NPD, the numbers they have provided don't tell you how they have done in the US anyways.I don't want to play Captain Obvious and I respect your remark. However, this is an NPD thread. We speak specifically about the sales in North America during the last three months.
Sony has their second best year yet Era keeps clinging on NPD December sales.
It likely means PS4 is in the 700kish range it points to a very low December
Is that a negative though? That's something inevitable to every console no matter how successful it is.
It's not automatically negative, but it is still news that people might want to discuss.Is that a negative though? That's something inevitable to every console no matter how successful it is.
Not really. For know, Sony has nothing as big as God of War and Spider-Man for 2019. It's possible that The Last of Us Part II (bigger) or Death Stranding (smaller) release in 2019, but we don't know yet. And in 2019, there isn't anything as big as Red Dead Redemption II.Software wise I don't see an issue, the lineup is amazing right from january onwards.
So why object to the part of the discussion actually relevant to this thread ? I agree though that the worldwide numbers do not help us have a precise estimation of the amount of PS4 sold last december in the US. However, they help us have a pretty good idea of the range, as mentioned by Benji. Thus, they are... kinda relevant. But they shouldn't be the sole focus of posts in the thread. I agree on that.If you read the thread then you'd see people actually talk about everything here even if it's NPD, the numbers they have provided don't tell you how they have done in the US anyways.
We have Kingdom Hearts 3 and Resident Evil 2 right in january. Followed by Days Gone, Metro Exodus, Sekiro, Devil May Cry and others in February, March and April.Not really. For know, Sony has nothing as big as God of War and Spider-Man for 2019. It's possible that The Last of Us Part II (bigger) or Death Stranding (smaller) release in 2019, but we don't know yet. And in 2019, there isn't anything as big as Red Dead Redemption II.