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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
- Thread starter ZhugeEX
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Asymmetric multiplayer was (and is) a great gaming idea. Problem is that video gaming is too reliant on single-player experiences to build an entire console around the concept.
A Nintendo game winning any award in general will naturally bring out a lot of salt :P
There is that but I'd argue that, considering the prestige the series holds, it's a bit odd that their main 3D entries aren't as big contenders for GotY as you'd think they would
Within the game community, Zelda is a giant broken base. Like some believe the last good Zelda before Breath of the Wild was Ocarina of Time. While some extremes claim only the first game was good.
The only game community more broken is Final Fantasy. Another series that really don't get many awards despite its prestige.
That and overall, most GOTY tend to go to western games with few exceptions like 3D Mario and Metal Gear Solid.
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I won't deny that, albeit I don't think the fanbase is as split as people would have you believe
asymmetric multiplayer was definitely a fad. there's some interesting analysis to be had there
This says WAY more about trends at retail (better product reach on day one) than it does about the game's impact on the brand pre-BotW.
It's how well the game sells AFTER launch that tells you how well it was received.
Maybe not, but Zelda has a very vocal fanbase who wants to pretend they speak for everyone. Most fans just enjoy the series and all its different aspects.
Yeah, that's where I'm at. Folk online aren't as good of an indication as they'd like to think
Skyward Sword sold after Nintendo abandoned the Wii in 2011 to focused in the 3DS. It was never going to sell as well as it could if it was launched in 2010. Breath of the Wild is very lucky to launch on the Switch and not in 2016 on the dead Wii U.
That and Zelda had several other games before Breath of the Wild that came out after Skyward Sword that sold and reviewed well. So how did Skyward Sword hurt the brand? That and Skyward Sword's 'backlash' was nothing compared to Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks. Especially Phantom Hourglass which caused a melt down for the lack of using a D-pad. Or Wind Waker whose meltdown is the stuff of legends and why Twilight Princess was made the way it was.
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https://gematsu.com/2019/01/ps4-wor...ion-marvels-spider-man-sales-top-nine-million
https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2019/190108.html
The recent report that mentioned Sony selling 5.6 million units during holiday worldwide seems to point towards a very weak december for them in the US.
https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2019/190108.html
The recent report that mentioned Sony selling 5.6 million units during holiday worldwide seems to point towards a very weak december for them in the US.
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Yep that essentially confirms the first piece of my projection for December.
Just need Nintendo to drop their PR to complete things
Wonder how Smash did overall in December.
Seems like might have beaten everyone's expectations.
Seems like might have beaten everyone's expectations.
Yeah. The numbers they provided are great and all, but it's all the stuff they didn't talk about that I found interesting (and telling.)
Wii shipped over 17m in 2010 and launched huge sellers like Mario Galaxy 2, Wii Party, DKCR, Epic Mickey, Goldeneye, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Just Dance 2, etc. That wasn't exactly a problem year.
2011 was when things really took a dive but that was partially because Nintendo shifted to 3DS dev internally and many 3rd parties moved support over to Kinect. Switch won't be in that position for probably 3 more years and iterative hardware might even obfuscate that transition more.
The stuff they talk about in this PR has been the same last 4 years. Not sure how its 'telling' anything different from last year. Other than being down 2m for the year that is.
For example? This is their usual PR about holiday season sales + info about software + update on PS4 LTD sales.
Smash has the very high expectations of being the best exclusive debut month ever for NPD.
Pretty much any other type of #s or stats they could have bragged about (like Spidey) but didn't. But like Benji said, we're for the others to drop their PR to complete the rest of the puzzle.
What puzzle? It's clear that Switch is going to be best selling console in USA. Worldwide i'm not sure if we'are talking about sell through , but shipments should be higher.
Piecing together the whole sales story is what these threads are all about. Sony provided the pieces that they can tout to make themselves look good, therefore we need the other pieces, etc.
Sorry , i really don't understand. Maybe i missed something in this thread, don't have a lot time to check the forum these days.
How does that point to a weak December? 5.6 million is right in line with some of the best holidays the PS4 has ever had.
- Holiday 2013: 4.2m
- Holiday 2014: 4.1m
- Holiday 2015: 5.7m
- Holiday 2016: 6.2m
- Holiday 2017: 5.9m
- Holiday 2018: 5.6m
Beacuse 5.6m include Black Friday and Sony this year had a very huge Black Friday with their bundles and price cuts.
Still not weak by any means. There's bundles and sales every year.
They had a crazy Black Friday sale last year too. Do those other numbers not include Black Friday or were you expecting this one to surpass last year?
It likely means PS4 is in the 700kish range it points to a very low December
You're exactly right. Sony has done an excellent job keeping momentum this gen but I think 2019 will see some of the lowest numbers for them in a while. They should still have a pretty successful launch of the PS5 in 2020 and I'm really excited to see what they have planned.
Quick question, is Black Ops 4 still the best selling game this year?
Red Dead 2 is said to have sold close to $20 million units, so BO4 is above or close to $20 million units sold as well, right?
Red Dead 2 is said to have sold close to $20 million units, so BO4 is above or close to $20 million units sold as well, right?
The 20M units figure for Red Dead 3 is worldwide, not only in the US. And Red Dead Redemption II outsell Black Ops 4 in many countries.
I don't want to play Captain Obvious and I respect your remark. However, this is an NPD thread. We speak specifically about the sales in North America during the last three months.
The question is if and when they cut the price in 2019 to keep the numbers high.
Software wise I don't see an issue, the lineup is amazing right from january onwards.
If you read the thread then you'd see people actually talk about everything here even if it's NPD, the numbers they have provided don't tell you how they have done in the US anyways.
It needs to make up a 40+ millions gap in worldwide install base I hope it did claw back 300K of the gap.
Will be interesting to see the Nov + Dec figures for all 3, as I suggested before - I suspect the PS4 sales were very front loaded this year due to the black Friday deal...so a good way to compare the demand over the festive period will be to put November and December together IMO...that way we'll get a fairer reflection on how PS4 has done this holiday.
Is that a negative though? That's something inevitable to every console no matter how successful it is.
It's not automatically negative, but it is still news that people might want to discuss.
Not really. For know, Sony has nothing as big as God of War and Spider-Man for 2019. It's possible that The Last of Us Part II (bigger) or Death Stranding (smaller) release in 2019, but we don't know yet. And in 2019, there isn't anything as big as Red Dead Redemption II.
So why object to the part of the discussion actually relevant to this thread ? I agree though that the worldwide numbers do not help us have a precise estimation of the amount of PS4 sold last december in the US. However, they help us have a pretty good idea of the range, as mentioned by Benji. Thus, they are... kinda relevant. But they shouldn't be the sole focus of posts in the thread. I agree on that.
We have Kingdom Hearts 3 and Resident Evil 2 right in january. Followed by Days Gone, Metro Exodus, Sekiro, Devil May Cry and others in February, March and April.
We don't know much about the second part of 2019 yet but I'm willing to bet that it's gonna be packed once again.