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NPD November 2018: All three consoles over 1.3m for the month
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Switch software overall or just first party releases? I would be more interested in hearing about third party software movement. First party is less surprising
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I just mean total Nintendo published games in December is going to be crazy. Might be worth breaking out into it's own highlight
I think the total volume is probably going to be a record for a single month
I hope that Captain toad took advantage of Switch rising software sales. Hope that it will be in the million seller list in the next Nintendo quarter IR.
Yeah I'm hoping they release some PR on Smash and Hardware next week
But given how off their PR was for November maybe best not to cause confusion lol
For some reason, Nintendo prefers to be extremely conservative with the given numbers. It's like they enjoy people being extremely surprised when the real numbers are discovered.
I still remember their fucking PR for december 2009
Actual results:
Wii 3.81M
Nintendo DS 3.31M
NDS for the year ended at over 11.2 M
Even last month
PR makes it sound like 850k
Actual result 1.3 million
Idk, they just like to be crazy conservative. Threw me for a loop for sure because before their PR I was confident they were way over 1 million
My guess is Nintendo just likes to play it safe. Easier to be conservative and then let the actual numbers surprise than to be overly optimistic.
But I'm really not sure how they came to that conclusion on their last PR, was really weird
Dumb question, and slightly off topic, but their software goals include all software sales right? As in: digital only games, digital + physical sales of first party games, and digital + physical sales of third party games?
Edit: Benji at least we know for sure going forward that we/you shouldn't doubt your insights in light of Nintendo PR. Even if it might sound weird on the surface to doubt Nintendo sales talk from Nintendo themselves lol
Any word on how things are looking early in January? I know there will be a steep drop, but will be interesting to see how each console starts the new year.
Physical retail and digital games that have retail releases. Digital only games aren't included in their given totals.
PS4 and Switch are steady and normal (Switch was the best selling for the first week).
Xbox is really bad for now.
BTW sales peeps
Love you all, thanks for always being on this ride with me! You guys don't know how much this community has meant to me through all the years, from the Era days, back on the GAF days
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Love you all, thanks for always being on this ride with me! You guys don't know how much this community has meant to me through all the years, from the Era days, back on the GAF days
.....and the forums I frequented before
Love and respect for my sales friends so much
Thanks! Been busy and hard to keep up.
Just saw Benji posted in the Dec prediction thread that Xbox is looking like a sharp drop early in January (or something along those lines).
Edit: thanks to you Benji and all the others that share information and provide valuable discussion and insight.
Thankyou for the reply, appreciate it. With how low their forecast is compared to reality I was beginning to wonder if it didn't include digital or tp or something lol.
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nintendo is downplaying sales results in their PR primarily to justify cutting bonus payments for lower and middle management.
Where did you come up with this conspiracy theory? In the real world, companies have thoroughly audited financial results and bonuses are paid (or not paid) based on the performance against a defined budget (not accounting for bonuses that could be paid at management's discretion). And companies typically pay bonuses based on overall measures such as GP, EBITDA, etc.
Jesus Christ ! Those numbers were utterly RIDICULOUS !!!
I think the Switch could get those numbers next December with Animal Crossing, Pokemon RPG, the Switch revision and pricecut.
As an American this reads like a headline from bizzaro US.
Nintendo's software forecast doesn't include quantity bundled with hardware.
Regarding this whole Nintendo counts all software including digital if they have a retail release.
They do include historic sales? For instance the retail Minecraft was released in june this year - do they count all digital prior to that one? And the most crazy one.. fortnite got a retail release would they include digital downloads of fortnite? or perhaps just the frozen bundle sales or whatever it was called heh..
They do include historic sales? For instance the retail Minecraft was released in june this year - do they count all digital prior to that one? And the most crazy one.. fortnite got a retail release would they include digital downloads of fortnite? or perhaps just the frozen bundle sales or whatever it was called heh..
well, of course you are right as long as we'd talk about upper management, the elite who actually brings forward the company and has superior access, capabilities and a longer attention span. for minor peasants in the organization sheet, a well-placed pr statement will generally do the job as they don't get the difference anyway and forget quickly what it was all about.
PS4 is matching sales graph aligned to launch of PS2, the best selling home console ever. In fact it's slightly above. They are also in track of being the console with the best selling 6th FY ever.
They have a 2019 year packed with a ton of great games so PS4 will have great sales again, and if at some point they have a price drop even more.
No, PS4 is on track to reach 120 million at the end of 2020, around PS5 release. And it will keep selling "well" during 3-4 years more if PS5 is BC with PS4 games, as it seems that it's going to be the case.
Does anybody have any educated guess to explain why Nintendo don't include digital only games sales in their software sales?. I don't understand either why they don't share digital sales data with NPD and other similar trackers all around the world. Even if their digital ratio is lower than Sony's and Microsoft's, the bigger sales number the better PR, right?.
This is something I've been asking for a long time, and I still have no idea. Maybe they don't want to inflate their unit sales numbers while their overall sales revenue per unit number will drop (average price of digital only software is way lower than physical)? That's my best guess at the moment.
Does anybody care about that?. I mean, I have never seen that stat discussed regarding PS4 or XB1 numbers. Also, software revenue includes DLC, MT's, loot boxes and so on, right?. It would not be as easy as just dividing sales revenue by units sold to obtain an useful average.
I think the NPD Top 10 software for December will include: Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, Mario Kart 8 DX, Super Mario Party, Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu, and possibly Super Mario Odyssey and/or Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Eevee will be right outside the Top 10. I think it will look something like this:
1. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
2. Red Dead Redemption 2
3. Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
4. Super Mario Party
5. Mario Kart 8 DX
6. Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu
7. Battlefield V
8. NBA 2k19
9. Spyro Reignited Trilogy
10. Super Mario Odyssey
11. Fallout 76
12. Pokemon: Let's Go Eevee
13. Madden NFL 19
14. Just Cause 4
15. FIFA 19
16. Assassin's Creed: Odyssey
17. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
18. Marvel's Spider-Man
19. Grand Theft Auto V
20. Just Dance 2019
1. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
2. Red Dead Redemption 2
3. Call of Duty: Black Ops 4
4. Super Mario Party
5. Mario Kart 8 DX
6. Pokemon: Let's Go Pikachu
7. Battlefield V
8. NBA 2k19
9. Spyro Reignited Trilogy
10. Super Mario Odyssey
11. Fallout 76
12. Pokemon: Let's Go Eevee
13. Madden NFL 19
14. Just Cause 4
15. FIFA 19
16. Assassin's Creed: Odyssey
17. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
18. Marvel's Spider-Man
19. Grand Theft Auto V
20. Just Dance 2019
I like my original theory that they simply added the Black Friday week sales to the end of October NPD and didn't consider the weeks before Black Friday in November.
ERA is in a constant state of fight for its soul
meanwhile XBOX fans are sitting in the corner like
Like I said I have no idea why they do that or if that's the case, that's just my best guess at the moment. Maybe they think investors care about revenue per unit of software sold?
I have wondered this as well and haven't seen an answer. More and more games are getting late physical releases as well.
Using the Wii as an example is not a great move.
Could be interesting if LoU2 launched with PS5!
The Wii was way ahead of the PS2 at some point and it barely passed the 100 million mark. I think the PS2 huge sales were helped by a very slow start for the PS3. Again, not saying the PS4 is the Wii, just that a sharper decline than expected is possible
So you expect the PS4 to sell like 30 million until late 2020 ? I don't see that possible. That would be barely a decline. But the decline will happen because games are going to be move on next gen soon. And consumers interest will decline as well because of current gen fatigue. We forget it, but this happened with the 360 and PS3, they had a pretty brutal decline with the next gen.
We ALL agree that next gen will happen in 2020 ( yes I'm leaving the team 2019 officially now ). But maybe it could be Spring 2020 and not Holiday 2020. The incredible launch of the Switch could inspire Sony or Microsoft ( or even both ).
No surprise there. Switch already sold the most last January and Nintendo have Smash momentum this year. It should be an easy win for Switch in January.