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NPD September 2019: NBA 2K20 #1, already #1 year-to-date, Borderlands 3 #2, Link's Awakening #4, Gears 5 #7, Code Vein #8
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There is a decent market. As you stated, Octopath Traveler sold well as did XC2. Not sure about ToV or Ys VIII and the FF remakes. DQ has never had a strong backing in the west outside of DQVIII on PS2 and DQIX on DS.
I don't even know if it's good or bad. I just wonder would it have been higher not on Game Pass.
This is one of MS's main franchises.
I guess, like with MS and Game Pass, it all comes down to your own expectations.
I think it could have been higher.
I wouldn't have bought it immediately if it wasn't already earmarked on one of my voucher buys. $50 is very much worth it, because the support is superior to the original in every way except for resolution
Really well at least on PS4 and Switch, according to the respective monthly ranking of PlayStation Store and eShop. It was #6 on PS4 for September in the US, if anyone else can check for the Switch ?
I know others have already answered you, but I just to make sure you have thorough understanding of Nintendo's reporting. Nintendo typically updates their sales in two way each quarter. A total lifetime Top 10 list per platform. And shipments of games that they shipped that have exceeded 1 million worldwide during that fiscal year. The lower limit of the Top 10 is out of reach and Nintendo is only shipping DQXIS in the west and the game was released 4 days before the end of their quarter. So there's no expectation that the game will be listed in this upcoming report. Their fiscal year ends in March, so it still has six months to climb pass a million in the west... Other games in the same situation have managed it.
Also, sometimes Nintendo will highlight a game in their report presentation even if it doesn't reach the above criteria. However, those typically highlight their biggest success of the quarter. And last quarter included Zelda LA, Fire Emblem, and the Switch Lite. Expect their focus to be elsewhere.
It was the #1 Switch game in its second month. It's fall comepletely out of the Switch Top 10 is unusual.
#7 on Switch for September. Although the list uses a different criteria than the PS list. Even being revenue based, I was a little surprised it didn't chart in NPD.
Does anyone know if any digital-only console game has ever charted before?
This is NPD. We know nothing.
But it doesn't stop us from arguing about it!!!
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Absolute numbers will be low but it's worth keeping in mind that Dragon Quest XIS will do a much bigger chunk of the original's sales compared to those other ports you have mentioned. DQXIS' unit sales are almost certainly >50% of the original's sales.
It's not really unusual when you consider: the sales trajectory of JRPGs (already mentioned), how late into July it launched so a considerable part of its sales where still in the early August days, how little competition there was on August (only new title being AC and only had few days of tacking) , and also while FE was on a natural downwards trajectory most evergreens probably saw growth compared to last month thanks to the Switch Lite launch.
Hey if MS is happy with it, im all for it. Apple Arcade and GamePass at the very least seem to be loved by consumers, and the parent companies implementing then are stupid rich.
long term Im not sure where the industry will go, but it's cool to see different approaches.
Bloody hell I'm playing this game and it's one of my favourite games and I forgot that it is relevant to this thread in a manner of speaking.
R.I.P
They don't track digital-only and they don't track pack-in titles (that gets backed into hardware revenue).
with the release of Switch Lite it's only natural that Mario Kart will sell better than Smash, Smash isn't that great with a joycon-like setup while Mario Kart stays wonderful on a handheld
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Not really weird. Mario Kart is, well, Mario Kart. It's almost the only game that virtually everyone likes, gamer or not.
Level-5 is so fucked. I'm honestly not sure they'll make it to localizing Yo-kai Watch 4.
Unless it came out in the US with a code in a switch case, they aren't gonna track that.
I really don't know what people were expecting for DQXIS in the west. The game landed exactly where I was expecting it to and I'm still confident it'll easily outsell the original release. It was just never going to outsell it the very first week.
So much discussion on so little information. The known difference between DQXIS and the original in the west is like 7000 units. Everything else is speculation based on incomplete and scattered data points... even most of that 7k was estimated from loose statements. Even the stupid Gears 5 complaints don't feel this forced.
It had 9 days in July's NPD. So it wasn't that late in the month. It also charted higher in NPD in August than in Nintendo's eshop chart #3, even though Nintendo's chart included 3 day near to its launch. But in September, it drop out of NPD completely, while staying fairly high on the eshop chart ....#10, higher than at least 5 games that outsold it on NPD. A drop was expected, but not this big of a drop.
Thanks. I've seen a PC only game chart. Is there some where that I can still get new games on CD-ROM or are PC games given an exception?
They sell retail copies of PC games yes. It used to be CDs a few years back but now they're mostly codes in boxes. That said when you see PC not included that means it's a launcher.
Expectations were set at "easily outsell the PS4 version" which was always a high bar and has proven unrealistic.
I mean I kinda do agree with your broader point that we don't really know enough yet but then you come up with 7k less than the original release out of nowhere which kinda goes against your initial point. Sure, it night not be a huge difference (with digital) but I don't think it's safe to assume anything like that.
Edit: nevermind, clarified below
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I don't think NPD even tracks Focus.
And it's a game that cost $5 million to make. By all accounts, it sold very well for what it is.
I think 7k is difference from the numbers we have from UK and Spanish Week 1, the only actual figures we have.
Ahhhh I see, I thought he was referring to US sales.
Then nevermind.
These expectations were stupid and I refuse to believe they were the true expectations. Late ports rarely ever outsell the original release especially outside of the launch window (unless we are talking about failed systems like the wiiu I guess)
PS4 sells shit tons of software. A game like DQ isnt limited by platform in the West.
They already did two of these: Dragons Quest Heroes 1&2... Funny that whilst playing DQ11 I kept missing the arcade action of heroes.
Is turn based combat finally dead ? I know after 30 years it now bores me to tears.
What could Pokemon do with a well designed action based combat system?
Do we really need to "Tackle" something 10 times in a row?
I see tactical games as still viable (FE style fancy chess boards), but even they seem to struggle.
Even after 9 days a game like this will still sell well compared to 1 month after by that time the drops become really big, there's no point bringing up the digital charts since we don't know the numbers neither here or there maybe the drop in the eshop was bigger and other games just don't have the same digital split which is totally possible, unless you've never seen the tracking for a JRPG in your life this is not a surprise to anyone.
Also you can't call this "that big of a drop" when we don't even have the numbers and all games that outranked it are evergreens that got boosted because of new hardware or more recent games that would obviously sell higher and we don't even know how far 3H is from this top ten maybe it's 11 or 13 or whatever.
should've stopped there.
also, you forgot KH (...and pokemon) when you originally said FFXV was the only big JRPG in the west this gen
I did hear people saying it would be the best selling ( a few people even said outsell PS4 + PC but eh) as more and more features got announced and the game's content looked more and more impressive.
never subscribed to that personally lol
It's not really comparable anyway, because despite ultimately only getting a single new generation to itself, MH on 3DS had annual retail releases, which of course slows/stops the last one selling when the next one is announced. All up there were over 12.6 million copies sold on 3DS between 3G/4/4G/X/XX in Japan which is kind of insane.
PSP also had 11.9 million sold between P/P2/P2G/P3. Add a million Wii sales in there during that too. So as a whole the franchise has seen a very big decline in Japan due to a combination of platform and delivery.
It could still be the best selling outside of Japan, which is definitely what people meant in most cases. Not good signs so far though.
Anthem doesnt deserve to be in the top 10.
EA/Bioware took the money and run. The support has been pathetic and abysmal. Ubisoft would be hard at work with a game plan and would see it through.
EA/Bioware took the money and run. The support has been pathetic and abysmal. Ubisoft would be hard at work with a game plan and would see it through.
Of course. I was just making a correction. Capcom isn't worried about a ~30% drop compared to the explosion globally. They're in a position to capitalize on both fronts if they play it right.
Did EA announce when they were cutting support for Andromeda or just quietly stop?
I never said it's only bundles, no game sells because of only bundles, but that doesn't mean you have to act surprised about its performance when we know what's going on with that, hell even the person that wrote the UK article said bundles.