NPD: Top 10 Life-To-Date Sold on PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Vita

[DriftingSpirit]

I think traditional racing games need a new model. With each iteration, your playing with the same cars, on the same tracks, with basically the same physics, and a slight visual upgrade. What's the incentive to keep plopping $60 down every time?

Its the "roster update" problem in sports games, on steroids. Sports have ultimate team and create a player story modes to break the monotony.

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Yep, you need something else to be the pull. Whether that is the more arcade style, cartoon like stuff, etc... I think the GaaS model would work well for traditional racing games, as you said.

Maybe he/she meant Gears of War 4?

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You are more than likely right. What was said makes more sense with that too.

 

[MauroNL]

 

[jroc74]

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Hey, looks like exclusives do matter!!

 

[ZhugeEX]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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Oh dear.

 

[Man Called Aerodynamics]

Weird to think that Infinite Warfare, a game that felt forgotten as soon as it came out, was one of the very best selling games of the gen.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I suspect your reply was intended for another thread Triggerhappytel.

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Yeah, you're right. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Deleted member 2793]

These Vita numbers are even worse than I expected.

 

[BioDigital Jazzman]

Weird to think that Infinite Warfare, a game that felt forgotten as soon as it came out, was one of the very best selling games of the gen.

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I mean it's still COD. But by looking at the cbox mostnolayed charts the game did fall off a cliff regarding player count. BO3 was easily beating it

 

[Xeontech]

Wonder how destiny would do if all versions counted as one

 

[Trup1aya]

Yep, you need something else to be the pull. Whether that is the more arcade style, cartoon like stuff, etc... I think the GaaS model would work well for traditional racing games, as you said.

You are more than likely right. What was said makes more sense with that too.

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Yeah, for traditional racing games, instead of having new releases every fewer years, theyd have free major updated w/ graphics and physics improvements.

In the meantime they'd release new tracks, and New car packs And have seasonal timetrials and tournaments. Maybe some that people would pay to enter.

 

[Deleted member 1238]

10/10 games on XB are mainly about people shooting guns at other people or beings.

Truly the American Console.

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PS4 list is so diverse in comparison. Only 7/10 are shooters! And the other three consist of two basketball games and a game where you play a buff, bald, bearded man who hits things with a big axe! Such a cultured and worldly list!

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I'm really surprised to see Halo 5 on the list. People acted like it was some kind of bust but it looks like it must have sold pretty well. Also kind of surprised to see god of war up there so soon! Glad to see both console are being represented with exclusives in the top 10!

 

[Deleted member 2772]

The Switch list might be mostly easy to predict most games but I'd still be curious of the order they land in NPD. Any chance of that getting posted now that even the Vita got the love lol

About the PS4 and Xbox lists. Sure, to hardcore gaming enthusiasts, it may look boring or depressing but right now is the more diverse time for gaming in history. Outside of those top tens are hundreds of quality games in literally every genre including some old favourite genres of mine that have been resurrected after having been forgotten for years.
I feel the same way about movies. I think Marvel movies are the most boring formulaic crap there is but that doesn't stop movies I love from being made outside of whatever the top ten movies are at the moment. So it's not really too depressing.

 

[HighJump]

What's the difference between #1 GTAV and #2 CoD WWII?

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Seeing that Vita list no wonder the thing failed.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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The biggest failure in gaming history.

 

[ZhugeEX]

The biggest failure in gaming history.

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I think that was the Virtual Boy.

 

[Toumari]

The biggest failure in gaming history.

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Ouya? Apple Bandai Pippin?

 

[ArmGunar]

The biggest failure in gaming history.

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Not the biggest failure and it didn't deserve to fail :(
VITA was a really great tech console and was released too ahead of its time, that's too bad...

 

[wrowa]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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Interesting. I wonder where Persona would end up on the list if digital was included, considering it seems to be the only game on the list missing digital.

 

[GhostTrick]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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Wtf. I knew it was bad. But THAT bad ???

 

[brambles13]

The lack of first party games is pretty jarring.

 

[Kyoufu]

Wtf. I knew it was bad. But THAT bad ???

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And people were surprised that Sony stopped supporting it.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I think that was the Virtual Boy.

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Ouya? Apple Bandai Pippin?

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Are we really putting all these quick releases on the same level of Vita's financial investment and return?

Vita was a main release from Sony. Virtual Boy was never treated with the same pre or post release strategy of regular consoles.

Absolutely not comparable.

 

[Richardi]

Ouya? Apple Bandai Pippin?

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WiiU

 

[v_iHuGi]

I blame millennials for killing racers

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Most of my friends don't really care about cars tbh I'm one of the few that still plays racers and likes driving / cars lol

 

[Kusagari]

The fact no Vita game broke 500k makes it amazing Sony supported it for as long as they did in the US.

 

[UraMallas]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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My word.

 

[jroc74]

Are we really putting all these quick releases on the same level of Vita's financial investment and return?

Vita was a main release from Sony. Virtual Boy was never treated with the same pre or post release strategy of regular consoles.

Absolutely not comparable.

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How about this:

WiiU

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And I think the Virtual Boy qualifies as the biggest, that and the Pippin.

 

[Deleted member 1413]

How about this:



And I think the Virtual Boy qualifies as the biggest, that and the Pippin.

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Didn't Wii U sell more, at least more software? Both were failures tho.
VB failed to sell 1M hardware, let alone any sort of success software sales and it was likely pitched as a GameBoy successor so that's probably the biggest from the big 3

 

[jroc74]

The fact no Vita game broke 500k makes it amazing Sony supported it for as long as they did in the US.

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What is interesting tho is with the weak software sales, that top 10 list has four Sony games on it.

But ppl said it didn't get enough support from Sony tho. It just got discontinued completely this year.

For alot of things, it's all about context. Something that seems to get overlooked alot.

Didn't Wii U sell more, at least more software? Both were failures tho

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I'm sure the Wii U software sales were alot better, but I think the Vita sold more hardware. The sales insiders, gurus might have the answer to that.

Even with that, context, lol.

 

[LiquidSolid]

Didn't Wii U sell more, at least more software? Both were failures tho.
VB failed to sell 1M hardware, let alone any sort of success software sales and it was likely pitched as a GameBoy successor so that's probably the biggest from the big 3

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Mat or Zhuge might have more information but according to the EEDAR (a NPD owned company), the Vita was slightly ahead worldwide as of the end of 2016.

But yeah, both systems were definitely failures. Nowhere even close to the biggest failures in gaming history though, even if Sammy Samusu wants to conveniently ignore the Virtual Boy and Pippin, there's still the Saturn, Dreamcast, 3DO, Jaguar, etc.

 

[Godzilla24]

God damn.. Halo still a monster.

 

[Deleted member 23381]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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l m a o

wow

 

[Trup1aya]

I'm really surprised to see Halo 5 on the list. People acted like it was some kind of bust but it looks like it must have sold pretty well. Also kind of surprised to see god of war up there so soon! Glad to see both console are being represented with exclusives in the top 10!

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This list doesnt show the gap in sales between positions.

One the 360 Halo3 was basically tied each COD entry, and did better than GTA4. Battlefield and Battlefront weren't on the radar.

Halo5 is now dwarfed by COD and GTA, and was surpassed by Battlefield and Battlefront. It also most likely sold much less than previous entries.

it might have sold "pretty well", but it lost a ton of markeshare, even if you just look at the Xbox ecosystem.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

How about this:



And I think the Virtual Boy qualifies as the biggest, that and the Pippin.

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wiiu sold A TON more software, and about the same hardware. vita is a much bigger failure as a platform.

 

[Andri]

PS4 list is so diverse in comparison. Only 7/10 are shooters! And the other three consist of two basketball games and a game where you play a buff, bald, bearded man who hits things with a big axe! Such a cultured and worldly list!

/s

I'm really surprised to see Halo 5 on the list. People acted like it was some kind of bust but it looks like it must have sold pretty well. Also kind of surprised to see god of war up there so soon! Glad to see both console are being represented with exclusives in the top 10!

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I have to say, its incredible how many people here immediately jump to console warring comments to defend their console of choice.

And if you actually read the thread beyond the first page you would have seen that i answered the first xbox defender that PS4 better but still horrible with their diversity of best selling genres, and that there should be more to gaming than just shooting things.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

PS4 list is so diverse in comparison. Only 7/10 are shooters! And the other three consist of two basketball games and a game where you play a buff, bald, bearded man who hits things with a big axe! Such a cultured and worldly list!

/s

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lol, it's actually kinda pathetic how a few people tried it.

 

[Falconbox]

The fact no Vita game broke 500k makes it amazing Sony supported it for as long as they did in the US.

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Yeah, people blaming Sony for not supporting it when their biggest franchise in Uncharted barely sold 400k on it.

I don't blame Sony there.

 

[g-m1n1]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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Vita was very quickly dead in the US.

It had more success in Europe I think (even if the sales were low too).

 

[MrChocolate]

wiiu sold A TON more software, and about the same hardware. vita is a much bigger failure as a platform.

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? Apples to oranges, Wii U was the main Nintendo platform. Vita was just a side machine for Sony.
Just look at how quickly the Switch was out, meanwhile Sony is happy to stay only with the PS4 even while Vita was a huge failure.

 

[Deleted member 10737]

? Apples to oranges, Wii U was the main Nintendo platform. Vita was just a side machine for Sony.
Just look at how quickly the Switch was out, meanwhile Sony is happy to stay only with the PS4 even while Vita was a huge failure.

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vita was a side machine for sony, but it ended their promising handheld business after their great entry into the market with psp, a console that came the closest to nintendo in the handheld market than any other competitor before.

 

[Man God]

? Apples to oranges, Wii U was the main Nintendo platform. Vita was just a side machine for Sony.
Just look at how quickly the Switch was out, meanwhile Sony is happy to stay only with the PS4 even while Vita was a huge failure.

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3DS was the main platform during that era.

Arguably the DS was during the Wii era but that is actually the closest it has ever been to 50/50.

 

[Zool]

The biggest failure in gaming history.

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It got 1600 games...

I know consoles like 3do, jaguar, cdi, NES, genesis, saturn, n64, wonderswan, neo geo, gamecube, xbox.... which all had way less games than psvita.

There must be some money made otherwise that number would have never been reached. It's still getting releases..

 

[Deleted member 8593]

If you want to know how poor Vita sales were.

Unit 13 is just over 200k and Uncharted is barely over 400k.

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my heart

you were too beautiful for this cruel world, Vita

sleep tight, sweet prince

 

[Kasey]

I have to say, its incredible how many people here immediately jump to console warring comments to defend their console of choice.

And if you actually read the thread beyond the first page you would have seen that i answered the first xbox defender that PS4 better but still horrible with their diversity of best selling genres, and that there should be more to gaming than just shooting things.

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The audience for shooters in NA (and WW) is quite large. Doesn't mean MS, Sony and 3rd parties aren't producing different types of games.

Don't really see the point of wagging the finger here. Buy the games you like and others will buy what they like.

 

[Canucked]

Say what you will about vita, but it has a more diverse top ten than The other two.

Also, a lot of it's gaming experiences are locked there. Some have been ported but it's not like the wiiU where a lot of the big hits were re-released.

 

[sph3re]

Out of 20 titles, 15 are FPS games.

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Kind of sad to see. Getting a little tired of shooters myself, I'd sooner dig through itch.io to find a quirky game to play than buy another godforsaken FPS.

 

[LiquidSolid]

vita was a side machine for sony, but it ended their promising handheld business after their great entry into the market with psp, a console that came the closest to nintendo in the handheld market than any other competitor before.

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Mobile phones ended it, the Vita just put it out of its misery. Sure, Sony made a number of mistakes with the Vita (the name for one, PSP2 would've been far more recognisable) but fixing those wouldn't have changed its ultimate fate. It's way too difficult and expensive to try and support two separate systems concurrently these days, something both Sony and Nintendo have learnt.

 

[Deleted member 13101]

It got 1600 games...

I know consoles like 3do, jaguar, cdi, NES, genesis, saturn, n64, wonderswan, neo geo, gamecube, xbox.... which all had way less games than psvita.

There must be some money made otherwise that number would have never been reached. It's still getting releases..

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Yeah even after the cart sales they made agreements with developers to develop Vita versions alongside PS4 versions of games. And there was Minecraft on it for a time before Switch, 3DS, etc.

Still, remote play with PS4 still works, though you may have to configure the controls to your liking.

People like to blame developers/companies/etc. for their favorite thing dying or not being supported, when the reason is more simply "sales were not high enough". With the Vita this was staggeringly true, unfortunately. Yet, though we can't measure this directly through sales, I still think in the age of standards in connectivity and storage (USB, SD, etc.), introducing a proprietary expensive memory card architecture with insufficient storage space had some effect. Every long-time Vita owner has had to chase down a larger storage card, and ultimately 3rd party charging cables as the others wore out or the power adapter lost the ability to charge the Vita.

It's been a great, yet frustrating experience being a Vita owner.