Her job is to whip votes for legislation... she;s one of the best like potentially ever at that.
"I can't point to a single vote in her long career, or can't be arsed to look, but hey, data shows it applies to Politicians in a general sense, so it MUST apply to her case specifically. Even though I can't find anything to back it up."
If you don't like the truth, that's your issue, PoliEraer.
Screw compromise with these people. Centrist desire to do that has slowly contributed to the death of workers rights, helped contribute to the rise of fascism instead of trying to curb it, minorities being endlessly scapegoated and attacked, etc.
All because, "we need to accept this as normal, stop being so uppity and just let us compromise". The more we try to compromise, the more we play into their hand and the further right wing this country becomes.
Pelosi needs to be gone.
I gave you an answer and you conveniently ignored it. Specifics apply to almost every single issue. Basically all of healthcare and financial regulation for example. All of it. The donations must be charity.
It's amazing how so called liberals have to become so dishonest and twist themselves into defending the corrupting influence of money in politics to defend politicians they prefer.
It's honestly sad . :/
."I can't point to a single vote in her long career, or can't be arsed to look, but hey, data shows it applies to Politicians in a general sense, so it MUST apply to her case specifically. Even though I can't find anything to back it up."
yes, and that's about when I gave up on Schumer :lolTo be fair, Schumer did give McConnell all the lower court judges he wanted
You're going to have to actually point out some examples of her supposed "corruption" in action. Otherwise you are just stirring up trouble with no basis.I gave you an answer and you conveniently ignored it. Specifics apply to almost every single issue. Basically all of healthcare and financial regulation for example. All of it. The donations must be charity.
It's amazing how so called liberals have to become so dishonest and twist themselves into defending the corrupting influence of money in politics to defend politicians they prefer.
It's honestly sad . :/
lol it is Tim Ryan there is no competition.Good. I'm sure Pelosi as a devoted capitalist welcomes competition. Plus, as competition is great she will be required to perform to her best.
Win Win!!
Ok cool, who is going to take the job, it's a job few actually want because it;s pretty much a career ender if you have aspirations beyond that job.
Right now the only ones that want the job are Pelosi who despite what you claim to know is actually good at her very specific job, and Tim Ryan whose backers claim to be the silent majorty, which you know is not even moderate but conservative white democrats who think the left is very very very scary and will not pass or fight for progressive legislation that Pelosi would.
Good. I'm sure Pelosi as a devoted capitalist welcomes competition. Plus, as competition is great she will be required to perform to her best.
Win Win!!
Donations don't get you votes.I gave you an answer and you conveniently ignored it. Specifics apply to almost every single issue. Basically all of healthcare and financial regulation for example. All of it. The donations must be charity.
It's amazing how so called liberals have to become so dishonest and twist themselves into defending the corrupting influence of money in politics to defend politicians they prefer.
It's honestly sad . :/
In what reality is what I said wrong? She doesn't push progressive policy. She's a staunch capitalist, she constantly compromises minorities and the poor away under this delusion that we "just need to compromise with the fascists and things will turn around.". They fucking don't. Things gave gotten worse in this country in part, tho there are many factors .due to spineless Democratic leadership claiming we need to just work together with literal fascists whose policies threaten the lives of people they're supposed to be fighting for. We need to stop fricking compromising with these people.
It's just heartbreaking to see such lies spread about a women who has spent most of her life fighting for the American people.In what reality is what I said wrong? She doesn't push progressive policy. She's a staunch capitalist, she constantly compromises minorities and the poor away under this delusion that we "just need to compromise with the fascists and things will turn around.". They fucking don't. Things gave gotten worse in this country in part, tho there are many factors .due to spineless Democratic leadership claiming we need to just work together with literal fascists whose policies threaten the lives of people they're supposed to be fighting for. We need to stop fricking compromising with these people.
You have no idea what you're talking about lolIn what reality is what I said wrong? She doesn't push progressive policy. She's a staunch capitalist, she constantly compromises minorities and the poor away under this delusion that we "just need to compromise with the fascists and things will turn around.". They fucking don't. Things gave gotten worse in this country in part, tho there are many factors .due to spineless Democratic leadership claiming we need to just work together with literal fascists whose policies threaten the lives of people they're supposed to be fighting for. We need to stop fricking compromising with these people.
If you don't like the truth, that's your issue, PoliEraer.
Screw compromise with these people. Centrist desire to do that has slowly contributed to the death of workers rights, helped contribute to the rise of fascism instead of trying to curb it, minorities being endlessly scapegoated and attacked, etc.
All because, "we need to accept this as normal, stop being so uppity and just let us compromise". The more we try to compromise, the more we play into their hand and the further right wing this country becomes.
Pelosi needs to be gone.
It's just heartbreaking to see such lies spread about a women who has spent most of her life fighting for the American people.
What compromise are you referring to? Specifically.It's heartbreaking and drives my depression up the wall that people think compromise with fascists that results in minorities, women and the poor being hurt is a good thing.
Point to an instance.It's heartbreaking and drives my depression up the wall that people think compromise with fascists that results in minorities, women and the poor being hurt is a good thing.
It's heartbreaking and drives my depression up the wall that people think compromise with fascists that results in minorities, women and the poor being hurt is a good thing.
Compromising whem youre the minority party is necessaryIt's heartbreaking and drives my depression up the wall that people think compromise with fascists that results in minorities, women and the poor being hurt is a good thing.
What Democrats have done for decades. Are you serious right now?
Please god, anyone but fucking Pelosi for speaker. Ideally someone with a spine and the courage to verbally fight back at GOP agenda-pushing propaganda nonsense.
Is this a jokeWhat Democrats have done for decades. Are you serious right now?
So it shouldn't be hard to give a specific example of Pelosi compromising to screw over women and minorities.What Democrats have done for decades. Are you serious right now?
It's heartbreaking and drives my depression up the wall that people think compromise with fascists that results in minorities, women and the poor being hurt is a good thing.
You're going to have to actually point out some examples of her supposed "corruption" in action. Otherwise you are just stirring up trouble with no basis.
All of it. Every single stance a politician takes is influenced by who puts them in power.
Data on aggregate effect is undeniable. Are you arguing Pelosi is magically immune and that her donors are magically philanthropic? Come the fuck on.
Donations don't get you votes.
NRCC spent 5M on Comstock. She lost by 12 points when we sent her packing last Tuesday.
The only other one who wants it is Tim Ryan
I'd probably retract the anyone but her statement you just made
Unless you're a big fan of conservative white male Dems who claim to be the silent majority?
So you want Nancy Pelosi? Gotcha.
I mean, if those donors encouraged her to be pro-choice, pro-LGBT when it wasn't popular, to oppose the Iraq War, and to pass the public option, they can't be all bad.All of it. Every single stance a politician takes is influenced by who puts them in power.
Data on aggregate effect is undeniable. Are you arguing Pelosi is magically immune and that her donors are magically philanthropic? Come the fuck on.
So you have nothing and are willing to disregard her actions as if they dont mean anything
If it's all about money, why isn't everyone taking money from the NRA?Here comes dishonest Kirblar pretending to not understand how an anecdotal single example is irrelevant when aggregate suggests otherwise
Now you're arguing that money from donors is worthless???,
So they should stop taking it then! Great!
You're trying so hard to defend the indefensible it's mindblowing what horrible self defeating arguments you're forced to make.
Here comes dishonest Kirblar pretending to not understand how an anecdotal single example is irrelevant when aggregate suggests otherwise
Now you're arguing that money from donors is worthless???,
So they should stop taking it then! Great!
You're trying so hard to defend the indefensible it's mindblowing what horrible self defeating arguments you're forced to make.
Those donors getting her to stand 8 hours for a speech to try and persuade republicans to protect dreamers probably had to write a large check too amirite?I mean, if those donors encouraged her to be pro-choice, pro-LGBT when it wasn't popular, to oppose the Iraq War, and to pass the public option, they can't be all bad.
Please god, anyone but fucking Pelosi for speaker. Ideally someone with a spine and the courage to verbally fight back at GOP agenda-pushing propaganda nonsense.
Who the fuck cares? Whoever is gonna be speaker is gonna be smeared. ESPECIALLY if theyre effective and ESPECIALLY if theyre a woman. Why do you think theres no anti schumer ads by the GOP?A progressive dem who doesn't share the same countrywide mindspace as hillary clinton?
And then the centrists take over the house and we're fucked.
I already said every. You wanted an example, I said everything! What more do you want lol. Answer my points please. :)
Pelosi and her donors are magical? :) That's your argument?
Note. Im not singling Pelosi here. This applies to all politicians taking corporate donations and pac money. It's not just horrible politics. It's bad for policy.
It is 10 that are for a conservative dem named Tim Ryan.