Most people here are comfortable with the human body, what personally makes me uneasy is that guarantee that once high profile nudity is in a film - many people will masturbate to it. I don't want 15 year olds in that mix.
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Nude scenes of 15-year-old actor in flemish film Girl censored at cinemas in USA. Uncut on Netflix
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Most people here are comfortable with the human body, what personally makes me uneasy is that guarantee that once high profile nudity is in a film - many people will masturbate to it. I don't want 15 year olds in that mix.
Is it better when those people masturbate to clothed 15 year olds?
Of course not but you would think a nude 15 year old would lead to more people masturbating than a clothed one.
I think you are looking at it from the wrong direction.
CP isn't banned to try to cut down on pedo's jerking off. It is banned to protect children from being abused and exploited.
It can be playing with fire, but many films have gotten away with it in the US, some even pretty mainstream. Because of free speech protections, the laws in the US are very generous to things that are reasonably defensible as having artistic intent. Pornography is defined not so much by what it depicts, but by (admittedly vague) things like "lewdness" or "lasciviousness."
I think Thora Birch was 16 in American Beauty. Brooke Shields maybe younger than that in Blue Lagoon. I remember seeing Roman Polanski's Macbeth in high school and there was a pointless nude scene of a clearly underage boy in it.
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I don't have to explain how high profile nudity makes this a much MUCH larger issue...do I?
Because it's not sexualized nudity but just...nudity. Hey, wanna see what germany's most popular teen magazine looked like? There was a section called "Dr. Sommer Bodycheck" where two teens in full frontal nudity stand there, with the magazine explaining different details of their body. Check this out, from their still functioning website:
A Vulva Gallery! (Click on "Gallerie starten" if you're interested, nsfw obviously)
I've seen naked children and babies on TV, be it during a TV show or some reality programming as a kid. Criminilizing nudity as if it is some intrinsically "adult" thing children or teenagers must not be exposed to is incredibly silly and even counterproductive when talking about sex education. This movie wants to realistically portray the struggles of a Transgender teenager, and their coming to terms with and accepting their body can be a central theme of that story. To then shy away from showing that reality for no reason whatsoever but a criminilization of nudity, no matter if its educational or otherwise non-sexual or not, is actually pretty offensive.
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Hah, we had/have the same kind of stuff here in The Netherlands. I totally agree with your post.
Not surprised having lived in Germany you guys have always been more open minded about sex then ... well anyone in western europe.
I wonder if that RTL dating show where people go on dates naked is still on. But yeah, Germans tend to be nonchalant when it comes to nudity and sex.
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What law was broken?
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In case you're talking about the US, 'Period' isn't accurate. I'm gonna quote a previous post:
Pretty sure they have a whole nude "celebrity" show on right now
Not in much of Europe or even in the US, which is why Netflix is airing the whole thing.
I don't think the law is written that way in the US. It's more about the intent than it is what's in frame.
To some extent, that's legit. You don't want people going to jail for a picture of a baby in the bathtub. Or documentaries about tribespeople that wear minimal clothing. Things that are clearly non-sexual.
But it gets fuzzy in movies, where the movie may not be pornographic, and may have clear artistic merit, but the scene has some intent to titillate, or isn't necessary to the film's intent. At the very least it seems to be thorny enough that very few people try to find that line. It's not a hill you want to die on, especially when we're talking about something as expensive and risky as a commercial film.
Another nail in the coffin for the DC versus Marvel battle.
The original Superman is now illegal if you believe this
Pffhaha.
Is that an attempt at the new "end thread!"?
I'm sure you mean well.
The one were they hang out on an Island naked to find a new partner is still on.
That's not even the worst Brooke Shields film in regards to underage nudity.
As a French person, I don't see the problem.
The actor gave consent.
The parents gave consent.
It's not sexual in any shap or form.
It's not hurting anybody.
And if someone in the US is sick enough to masturbate to this, the movie isn't the problem, that person is.
The actor gave consent.
The parents gave consent.
It's not sexual in any shap or form.
It's not hurting anybody.
And if someone in the US is sick enough to masturbate to this, the movie isn't the problem, that person is.
Blue Lagoon used body doubles in the nude scenes, so that's a different situation than the other movies we're talking about in this thread. They went so far as to actually glue Brooke's wig to her body so there wouldn't be any nipple slips when she was on-screen.
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