True. That's why I hope the trans community can see this as the cinsere, beautiful film it is, that could lead to more understanding for their struggles and situation.
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Nude scenes of 15-year-old actor in flemish film Girl censored at cinemas in USA. Uncut on Netflix
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True. That's why I hope the trans community can see this as the cinsere, beautiful film it is, that could lead to more understanding for their struggles and situation.
From my understanding, that's not the point of the scene at all.
I've seen the movie. The surface level point of the scene is to show dysphoria, but the subtext in the filmic language remains.
Granted I might be more sensitive to this stuff, but when you have these trends in nearly every critically acclaimed trans movie of having graphic nudity to make an artistic point, you start to wonder about the subtext. The cis actors playing trans roles make that way more explicit.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2016/04/24/475129558/why-you-probably-shouldnt-say-eskimo
If you aren't Inuit/An Arctic native it is not a good idea to use that word.
Huh I'll take the L for missing the bolded.
On the note of the OP I don't find an issue with the nudity being censored in this instance.
I look forward to the day Christiane F gets a release in US theaters. You guys are going to go absolutely ballistic.
A 13 year old actress playong a 13 year old junkie who sells her body to supply herself with heroin. Her boyfriend is 15 (actor was 14) and sells himself to men.
There are scenes of syringe injections, overdoses, underage prostitution, suicides... and David Bowie. It's a disgusting but also great movie. And based on real events/characters.
We watched it in school as a warning against doing drugs. It's quite effective. Makes Trainspotting look incredibly tame.
A 13 year old actress playong a 13 year old junkie who sells her body to supply herself with heroin. Her boyfriend is 15 (actor was 14) and sells himself to men.
There are scenes of syringe injections, overdoses, underage prostitution, suicides... and David Bowie. It's a disgusting but also great movie. And based on real events/characters.
We watched it in school as a warning against doing drugs. It's quite effective. Makes Trainspotting look incredibly tame.
That doesn't sound very promising to be honest. I definitely can feel the whole "suffering porn" vibe off of it and I'm not sure how that's handled delicately at all.
David Bowie was a pedo so it's not surprising he did a movie like this. I think there are better ways to educate people about drug use.
Yeah, it's hard to watch but a good movie. Based on a true story, too.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/faith...ilent-on-david-bowies-sexual-abuse-of-minors/
Bowie gets a pass on plenty of shit
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Looks like a classic Europe vs America disparity. I've seen some shocking French movies on Arte which is a state run channel so this example is rather tame.
Regardless of how good the movie is, I don't think I would be comfortable in seeing a minor's naked body in it.
FWIW the reactions I've seen from trans viewers have been fairly negative.
Aye. Dude was an idiot for a bit. Adored Hitler, crafted the pro fascist (possibly uberman inspired) Thin White Dude until he came to his senses. He had a big enough god complex to think nothing of naming his son Zowie Bowie.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/faith...ilent-on-david-bowies-sexual-abuse-of-minors/
Bowie gets a pass on plenty of shit
I'm not sure if he died holding that belief though, maybe someone should ask his son how he was in more recent times. Don't think he's a racist, just fucking dumb to not link racism, and overall nasty stuff to the Third Reich.
Stay off cocaine kids.
I get where you're coming from. I would need to see this myself as well, so *shrug*
Is it on Netflix atm? Not sure when I could get to the theatres.
That said I have to kinda eyeroll this title change because you can also title this: "Nude scenes of a young transwoman uncomfortable with her body in flemish fillm Girl censored at cinemas in USA. Uncut on Netflix."
And I mean, that is literally an issue a large variety of trans people have. Not everyone trans but it feels like that's an important detail being dismissed in context of the themes/point of the story itself.
I get being skeeved by it and I'm not arguing for just having scenes like this in every movie like it's no big deal but it feels like there's a significant plot/thematic difference here. That said you could show this in different ways without the full-on nudity. I guess it just bothers me because trans people don't get a lot of stories so censoring an aspect of the difficulties that happen is just annoying.
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If that's true why not make a thread about it? Davie Bowie has absolutely MASSIVE influence, and people should definitely know if he's a pedophile and possibly a fascist. Hardly anyone is going to see a random blog link in a random thread.https://www.patheos.com/blogs/faith...ilent-on-david-bowies-sexual-abuse-of-minors/
Bowie gets a pass on plenty of shit
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/faith...ilent-on-david-bowies-sexual-abuse-of-minors/
Bowie gets a pass on plenty of shit
That was well known and Bowie himself has admitted it was stupid of him to do that. He was messed up on drugs and going through mental issues at that time.
Heh. Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Google search shows he was sentenced to 1 to 2 years.
http://www.poconorecord.com/news/20180114/coolbaugh-man-sentenced-in-child-porn-case
Because most people who like David Bowie know he went fascist and banged underage girls during the 70s. It's not really a secret. There's a reason people call him the Thin White Duke. He also seemed to have stopped doing both activities after sobering up, then passed away 30 years later. I don't think debate on rather or not he did enough to right the wrongs he committed should be shut down, but it's not new ground by any means.
I've literally never seen him called a pedophile before this thread, so I definitely think it's worth a thread to inform people. That's an absolutely massive thing.
weird, because it was seemingly in half the widely-shared posts about him on social media for a few weeks after he died
I mean, there were plenty of threads about it on GAF when he died and I think I've seen it come up in almost every thread where Bowie is mentioned.
By all means, start a thread if you want to-it's an interesting discussion topic. But I think you're somewhat overestimating how many people who are into Bowie that don't know he fucked a 15 year old, and you're definitely overestimated how many people who are into Bowie that don't know he had a fascist period.
I read those threads during that period and thought I knew Bowie, but didn't see either. I don't think I'm qualified to make the thread since I seem to be the least informed, but I definitely think if a high profile person is a pedophile, there should be a thread on it.
I don't use Twitter so that's definitely understandable at least.
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/faith...ilent-on-david-bowies-sexual-abuse-of-minors/
Bowie gets a pass on plenty of shit
ok now this is dumb
The Thin White Duke was a character not Bowie himself
yeah he slept with Lori Mattix who was 15 or so when he was like 21
not unsurprising for the time but awful none the less. She wrote a book about it i believe, she was a sex groupie for many musicians while she was underage including Jimmy Page
Its probably why age of consent is like 12/13 or some shit over there in France
I'd have to actually see the work of art before I could make a judgement. Nudity, even of a youth, doesn't mean it has to be vulgar and/or sexually charged.
I'll echo the sentiments here that this is really feeling like a conflict between the conditioning of US censorship and a more open Europe. Here we can watch a man be tortured, have his hand blown off, then gruesomely executed by cackling villains with shotguns (Robocop, 1987), but you show a man's cock and balls and all hell breaks loose.
I'll echo the sentiments here that this is really feeling like a conflict between the conditioning of US censorship and a more open Europe. Here we can watch a man be tortured, have his hand blown off, then gruesomely executed by cackling villains with shotguns (Robocop, 1987), but you show a man's cock and balls and all hell breaks loose.
When I was a kid Arte had this reputation of being lame, but some of the stuff on there was pretty wild. I remember seeing a movie on there that consisted pretty much entirely of sex scenes, and didn't shy away from showing the actors' genitals lol
It's 15 (and there are additional laws protecting people under 18).
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Are you me? I came from the 954 and live in Atlanta now. Lol
It's not about the body it's about she's a minor. No one should put a naked minor on screen. Just put an adult actor do nude scenes like they do with a lot of other movies.
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Also, the point is that Lara's body isn't quite adult. She's in the middle of three transformations/transitions
yep sorry my bad. Still I'm sure they could find adult models that has a close enough body type than the original actor, and then do some camera work and tricks. It's not unusual.
What is the difference between 'knowing about it' and mansplaining/white knighting? Because it is really the latter.
Didn't the best picture winner of 1999 (American Beauty) have a naked 16 year old girl in it (Thora Birch). I think it all comes down to getting permission form the actor's guardian. It's not illegal as far as I know.
At any rate, as long as it's not sexualized, and is pertinent to the plot, I don't see a huge problem with it as long as the parents are around during filming.
At any rate, as long as it's not sexualized, and is pertinent to the plot, I don't see a huge problem with it as long as the parents are around during filming.
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It's been a long time since I've seen American Beauty but I can't remember Thora Birch's character being naked in it. Are you confusing her with Mena Suvari, who was of age?
Yes, Thora Birch was naked in it. I remember there been a bit of controversy over it when the film was released.
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