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Nvidia GeForce RTX 30 Series review thread
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Precedent doesn't need to apply to every product release.
There is 10% difference between 3080 and 3090, so 3080Ti would be... 5% faster than 3080? Talk about nonsensical performance increase for noticeable price increase.
3090 is few % shy of absolutely full chip so there 3090Ti would be even more laughable.
Maybe they brand that 3080 20GB as Ti, but rendering gains would be next to zero.
Yes that is basically what I said. Thank you for rewording my post, I guess.
Yeah those are the ones in particular that I saw recently. Ridiculous titles and thumbnails lol
Considering your post basically said nothing of kind then... sure, u welcome.
By the time they launch a Ti/Super card they may have better yields allowing clock speed improvements on top of increased VRAM and additional cores, etc.
Basically cracked the Youtube code:
- Being negative brings more views
- Finds a way to be negative while actually not really being
- ????
- Profit
Well, it's not really a gaming card though even despite the marketing.
It's mostly a card for those who need 24 GBs of VRAM for AI research and those who need 24 GBs for rendering.
In this sense it's good that it's only 10% faster than 3080 - people won't be buying it to solely play games on the thing.
Also a nice showcase of 10GBs being well enough for modern games. (CB.de has some 8K results where 24GBs actually matter for those interested.)
I honestly doubt it. Feels like these chips are being pushed to breaking point as-is.
We have a brand new architecture on a brand new (to NV at least) manufacturing process. This has about as much room for growth as anything we've seen. That doesn't mean something (other than VRAM) is imminent but there may be be significant improvements between now and the 4000 series parts.
Thanks - I'll keep that in mind for a home office day then :P
JayzTwoCents - Nvidia RTX 3080 FE Temperature Testing
Ridiculous thumbnails as usual, showing the opposite of the conclusion..
Well, confirms my original thoughts. The blower part of the FE helps a lot more with system cooling than all the fear of heating up the CPU and RAM because of the back fan. Traditional open air GPUs just exhaust in case. Blowers' problems used to be sound and now that is fixed in FE with the hybrid design.
FE continues to win.
I mean FE is still the loudest and hottest running of all the 3080s on the market tho, right? Just not as loud or as hot as in the past? That's what literally all of the written reviews have shown to date. Is this video any different?
thats it, when all the inventory is back to normal, I'll order the 3080 FE over the EVGA XC3.
3080 FE this time around is winning like a champ compare to AIB.
Mine is incredibly quiet. My Wraith Prism on the other hand......may upgrade that this year.
3090 is 12% over 3080 at 4k.
Avg of 246 tests.
Incredible bang for the buck!
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Avg of 246 tests.
Incredible bang for the buck!
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Mit der GeForce RTX 3090 hat nVidia an diesem Donnerstag die zweite Grafikkarte der Ampere-Generation in den Ring geschickt. Während die GeForce RTX 3080 von vorangegangener Woche das neue HighEnd-Flaggschiff darstellt, ist die GeForce RTX 3090 als reine
I think all cards are pretty quiet until you put them under load and ramp up the fans to keep the temps down. If you're not using a manual fan profile and aren't making it work its ass off, I imagine it's pretty quiet. And in general, this generation is quieter than previous FE generations.
Yikes, imagine getting the 3090 only for gaming!3090 is 12% over 3080 at 4k.
Avg of 246 tests.
Incredible bang for the buck!
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Mit der GeForce RTX 3090 hat nVidia an diesem Donnerstag die zweite Grafikkarte der Ampere-Generation in den Ring geschickt. Während die GeForce RTX 3080 von vorangegangener Woche das neue HighEnd-Flaggschiff darstellt, ist die GeForce RTX 3090 als reine
First video review of the Strix 3080 OC I've seen pop up. It's in Arabic (so I have no idea of a single thing said) but there are graphs and numbers.
Appears it was tested only against other Strix cards from prior architectures (even an AMD one).
15th Oct is the official launch date, nothing vague about it.
Reviews will hit around the same date, maybe a couple of days earlier than 15th.
I posted this in another thread too. Some key takeaways about this card:
Hmmm I was thinking of getting a 3090.... But not with that small difference between the 3080...
My other issue is while the 3080 performance over my 1080ti is undeniable... I'm pretty unimpressed as a decent amount of this is due to the fact the 1080ti was a 250 watt card and now we're hitting 320 watt.... It's reasonable to say a quarter of that performance increase is simply due to pushing more power into the gpu....
While I'll be watercooling my case is mini ITX so I'm pushed on rad space.....
On top of the POSCAPS reference issue with some AIBs...
I'm a bit undecided and will sit it out for a bit I think...
DLSS etc is also tempting but yeah.... I'm not completely blown away overall... And I doubt AMD will come with something that is overwhelmingly compelling either...
My other issue is while the 3080 performance over my 1080ti is undeniable... I'm pretty unimpressed as a decent amount of this is due to the fact the 1080ti was a 250 watt card and now we're hitting 320 watt.... It's reasonable to say a quarter of that performance increase is simply due to pushing more power into the gpu....
While I'll be watercooling my case is mini ITX so I'm pushed on rad space.....
On top of the POSCAPS reference issue with some AIBs...
I'm a bit undecided and will sit it out for a bit I think...
DLSS etc is also tempting but yeah.... I'm not completely blown away overall... And I doubt AMD will come with something that is overwhelmingly compelling either...
Does the video state what exactly is being measured? Did they confirm this is the computer only? I've seen people posting wattage before who turned out to have the entire power strip of their computer, monitor, router, etc... all in it instead of just the tower.I posted this in another thread too. Some key takeaways about this card:
I don't speak that language, but power draw seems very high. Perhaps that's with card OC'ed and 480W power mode enabled (or whatever is equivalent to STRIX 3090 480W mode).
When you want to nurse two of those in NVLink, 1600W don't seem that stratospheric anymore xD
Keep in mind you are comparing a mature architecture on a mature process node at TSMC to an immature architecture on a less mature Samsung process node. I think the move to Samsung is probably important here for both energy consumption and price.
It's true but with 3070 being a 2080Ti for $500 it's bound to meet an even higher demand than what we're seeing with 3080.
Basically don't expect it to be widely available at launch day (or week, or month even).
Yeah I don't see myself getting a 3070 when it comes to that, more like a 3060 Ti/3060.
Anyone find a nicer extension or cable for the 12 pin on the Founder's Edition?
Found this on Amazon, but I'm worried about the quality. Their other cables have pretty good reviews.
Found this on Amazon, but I'm worried about the quality. Their other cables have pretty good reviews.
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Feels like it comes down to whether they can manufacture these at TSMC in 2021. If they could, it's easy to see how a refresh could come and naming conventions could work. Otherwise, yeah. Where's is going to come from? They're clearing being pushed to their breaking points already.
They could manufacture them at TSMC in 2020. Cards would cost you some 25-30% more.
They won't manufacture the same chips at N7 in 2021 as this makes about zero sense from ROI perspective and N7 isn't that much better for them to be able to make a proper lineup refresh this way.
Next NV gen which may use TSMC will come no sooner than in 2022 IMO and will use N5.
I'm not saying I expect it. But you'd agree, right, that there's not a whole lot of room for something like a 3080ti if they're staying on the same process. Only way it would make any sense is if they could drop the power figures (substantially) while giving a mildly interesting boost. That seems like it could only be met by the supposed designs that existed for TSMC factories.
Depends on what this 3080Ti will be.
They could make a 3080Ti with 12GBs of VRAM for example but with similar tflops as than of 3080.
They could stock up on GA102 chips with good clock bins but physical defects preventing them from being used in 3090s and use them for 3080Ti.
They could make a new GA102 revision on the same 8N process targeting lower power consumption which will allow to hit higher clocks in similar wattage.
There are a number of possibilities really.
But generally speaking I'm not expecting a 3080Ti a) soon and b) simply because it would have to be faster than 3090 to make any kind of sense as a product and this would kill off 3090.
So I would say that we're more likely to get a "Super"-style - or to be more to the point Fermi 500-style - lineup refresh somewhere around summer of 2021 with new chip revisions on top and possible GA103 introduction. It's also where a "3080Ti" appearance would make sense.
ASUS STRIX 3080 OC was benched by Finnish site IO Tech.
With overclock GPU ran at 72C and whole system power draw was 603W, GPU by itself peaked at 440W. Without OC GPU ran at 67C. Default power limit is 370W and you can manually increase it all the way to the 450W.
Their test rig has....
Feeling better about my chances of the running i7 9700K @ 4.9GHz and 16GB along with this GPU with my 750W PSU :b
With overclock GPU ran at 72C and whole system power draw was 603W, GPU by itself peaked at 440W. Without OC GPU ran at 67C. Default power limit is 370W and you can manually increase it all the way to the 450W.
Their test rig has....
- AMD Ryzen 9 3900XT
- Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero Wi-Fi (AMD X570)
- 16 Gt G.Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz
Feeling better about my chances of the running i7 9700K @ 4.9GHz and 16GB along with this GPU with my 750W PSU :b
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They could kill off 3090 and release a Titan, then plug in a 3080Ti.
A Titan is likely coming too, at some $3500, with 48GBs of G6X or something.
Now this I can believe.
Because that other youtube video where they claim a 780+W full system power draw at stock with a 9700k and 16GB...