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Haint

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If even half of this is true, so longy Navi. On one hand AMD deserves it limping to market a year late with a $499/$450 5700XT that's maybe a 5-10% gain over a 2070 (albeit with no tensor or RT cores). However AMD's comically half assed "pressure" is the only reason Nvidia would be offering these new cards and presumably clearing out the vanilla 20XX's with price cuts that finally get them down to semi-reasonable territory.
 

UltraMagnus

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Damn a 8GB RTX Super for the price of a current 2060? AMD's gonna have some problems.
 

MrBob

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Sitting this one out on my 1080 Ti.
Probably building a new rig in 2020. Intel Comet Lake 8+/10+ Core i9 on 10nm and a Nvidia 3070/3080 Ti on 7nm Samsung should be a real upgrade.
These recent offerings from Intel with the 9900KS and now this feels like rebranded, tweaked/unlocked/maxed OC of existing tech.
A year from now we are probably getting the 30 series so unless you need the muscle at this moment I'd probably wait. Especially since cyber punk will probably be the game to get people to upgrade. Going to Samsung's 7nm euv should be a decent boost too for sure. With new consoles on the horizon then I bet Nvidia will want to remind people what PC gaming can offer.
 
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The Bookerman

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Oct 25, 2017
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My RTX 2070 just died on my ass. And getting a replacement from Asus is a PAIN.
I wonder if it's because of this.
 

Apple

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Oct 27, 2017
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Are these replacing the current cards, or are they supposed to live alongside them? Because having a 2060, a 2060 SUPER, a 2070, a 2070 SUPER, a 2070 Ti Super, a 2080, a 2080 SUPER, 2080 Ti, and a 2080 Ti SUPER seems really dumb and confusing to me?
 

Trieu

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My RTX 2070 just died on my ass. And getting a replacement from Asus is a PAIN.
I wonder if it's because of this.

Sorry to hear that friend. It is not the first time I heard about RTX cards breaking, but so far I didn't pay much attention to it because I didn't see any data regarding if it is higher than previous generations or not.
 

Hokey

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Oct 29, 2017
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Man is there any tech more expensive and becomes superseded faster than gfx cards? Only thing I can think of are cars.
 

DarkSlayer

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Jan 18, 2018
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I'm one of the people who jumped to RTX (2080) early, and I now feel I should have waited especially considering I had a GTX 1080. I really did not expect NVIDIA to launch an upgraded lineup in less than a year.

I'm probably going to sell my 2080 for a Super version and settle down for the next two years.
 

finalflame

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fucking seriously? I thought it was only going up to super 2080

uggghhhhhh now i have to sell my 2080ti when this comes out
Kind of expected as the Ti sort of overtook the old Titan price point. The SUPER is basically bringing what would have previously been Titan performance to 2080 pricing. Neat.
 

finalflame

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So the super 2080ti is expected to launch at lower the price of the 2080ti with how much better performance?
If I'm understanding correctly, 2080 SUPER will have 2080 TI level performance at vanilla 2080 pricing. 2080 Ti SUPER seems to be what we have the least amount of info on, but I'd speculate 2080 Ti pricing or thereabouts.
 

Pargon

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Won't happen until Ampere next year. This is a refresh, the chips - and their features - will be essentially the same.
They have changed features with new cards/refreshes before. For example: GM206 cards included updated NVDEC hardware compared to the rest of the 900 series:
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I specifically bought a GTX 960 (4GB) for the VP9/HEVC decoding support.
If they're new chips, it's possible that they could add HDMI 2.1 support, or update them to support VRR over HDMI 2.0 at least.

Kind of expected as the Ti sort of overtook the old Titan price point. The SUPER is basically bringing what would have previously been Titan performance to 2080 pricing. Neat.
There's a lot of conflicting information out there. I'm not expecting the 2080 Ti SUPER to cost $700.
It should, as that's where a Ti card would usually sit in the line-up, but as evidenced by this thread, enough people didn't seem to care about the awful RTX pricing and bought them anyway.

If I'm understanding correctly, 2080 SUPER will have 2080 TI level performance at vanilla 2080 pricing. 2080 Ti SUPER seems to be what we have the least amount of info on, but I'd speculate 2080 Ti pricing or thereabouts.
2080 SUPER will not, if it's going from 2944 CUDA cores to 3072 CUDA cores as rumored.
The 2080 Ti has 4352 CUDA cores, and the TITAN RTX has 4608 CUDA cores.
 

Instro

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Oct 25, 2017
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A year from now we are probably getting the 30 series so unless you need the muscle at this moment I'd probably wait. Especially since cyber punk will probably be the game to get people to upgrade. Going to Samsung's 7nm euv should be a decent boost too for sure. With new consoles on the horizon then I bet Nvidia will want to remind people what PC gaming can offer.
Intel's first wave of GPUs are due out next year as well, so there will probably be additional incentive for all manufacturers to put their best foot forward.
 

Lump

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Oct 25, 2017
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I bet the 2080 Ti Super will be a clean $1500 or $1600. Who is going to stop Nvidia? No one.
 

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I kind of feel like this isn't actually happening now that Nvidia knows Navi isn't a threat at all. They might do this once 5800 and 5900xt come out but right now it doesn't make sense.
 

Galaxea

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Oct 25, 2017
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Will this affect 1660 ti prices? Kinda tempted to jump on one for 270 on Newegg to replace my 770. 1080p/60hz and possibly oculus rift s in the near future. These new cards sound nice but overkill for me. By the time I do a full upgrade, a couple new generations of cards will be out.
 

OHRye

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Nov 17, 2017
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So I was literally about to buy a new computer this week with most likely the 2070. I'm assuming I should just hold off at the point and get the super, or the regular one at a discounted price? I kinda need a new PC within the month or so.
 

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So I was literally about to buy a new computer this week with most likely the 2070. I'm assuming I should just hold off at the point and get the super, or the regular one at a discounted price? I kinda need a new PC within the month or so.

I'd wait a couple weeks at least. If no announcement then Nvidia scrapped this whole thing on account of Navi not being any kind of threat.
 

Hokey

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Oct 29, 2017
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I'm still rocking a GTX560ti which runs Diablo 3 and Cuphead perfectly, will upgrade when Diablo 4 comes out.
 

Veliladon

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Oct 27, 2017
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One thing is bothering me about the leaks. Normally the 11GB is the result of a 352-bit bus on a TU102, right? The leaks have some fakakta 8/11 configuration. How the hell do you fit 8GB of RAM on a 352-bit bus?
 

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One thing is bothering me about the leaks. Normally the 11GB is the result of a 352-bit bus on a TU102, right? The leaks have some fakakta 8/11 configuration. How the hell do you fit 8GB of RAM on a 352-bit bus?

There's still some confusion on what the 2080 Super is based on it seems
8GB if it uses full TU104
11GB if TU102
 

MrH

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Nov 3, 2017
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If it were safer to sell GPUs on eBay I'd love to sell my GTX 1080 and upgrade, but I couldn't afford to get scammed.
 

MrBob

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do I buy a 2080ti super for cyberpunk, or wait for the 3080ti
coming from a 1080ti
We don't really know yet since there is conflicting info on the super line. 3080 ti is going to be Samsung 7nm euv so it will probably be a nice jump over the 2080 ti super. But of course we are speculating over something a year away, but if your goal is best gpu for cyber punk wait for 7nm.
 

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If it were safer to sell GPUs on eBay I'd love to sell my GTX 1080 and upgrade, but I couldn't afford to get scammed.

Use bst on here or sell it on Amazon. I never have any problems on Amazon but high $ items on eBay are a nightmare. I've sold $1000+ shit on Amazon but on eBay anything over $300 I've sold is always a nightmare.
 

dgrdsv

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are these replacing the current cards, or are they supposed to live alongside them? Because having a 2060, a 2060 SUPER, a 2070, a 2070 SUPER, a 2070 Ti Super, a 2080, a 2080 SUPER, 2080 Ti, and a 2080 Ti SUPER seems really dumb and confusing to me?
There's no way the "Super" cards will live alongside the current ones. There's just not enough space for that both performance and price wise.
 

BAW

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's why they name them Super and not TIs. The TIs are placed alongside existing products, a new name series replaces the previous series.
I wonder if I could get a 2080 Ti on the cheap when they start clearing stock. Hmm.
Hmmmmm.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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We don't really know yet since there is conflicting info on the super line. 3080 ti is going to be Samsung 7nm euv so it will probably be a nice jump over the 2080 ti super. But of course we are speculating over something a year away, but if your goal is best gpu for cyber punk wait for 7nm.
Do we know whether these "Super" cards come in a newer node? Because they seem like they are all you can get from a rehashed 16nm node.
 

scabobbs

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Oct 28, 2017
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Seems like the RTX 2080 SUPER will be a great upgrade for 1080ti owners who were holding out for something more reasonably priced than the 2080ti.
 

dgrdsv

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We cannot confirm whether the date shared by Wccftech (June 21st) is true, but our sources have also referred to next week as a possible announcement of the new series. Nothing out of ordinary is happening on this date, so we are not sure why NVIDIA might have chosen it for the announcement.

What's important, however, the GeForce RTX 20 Super series will not launch till mid-July. NVIDIA has only just started talking to AIBs about the new series, and the time for a Turing refresh preparation is obviously still required.
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We are in the process of confirming the pricing details, but it appears that RTX 20 Super will basically get RTX 20 Non-Super MSRP's while the former will receive a price cut.
Pretty much as I expected then.
 
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BAW

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Oct 27, 2017
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Not half bad. A 2060 that doesn't suck and a healthy core boost for the 2070. The 2080 seems to be only very minor upgraded.
 

Alienware

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Jun 9, 2018
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I'm one of the people who jumped to RTX (2080) early, and I now feel I should have waited especially considering I had a GTX 1080. I really did not expect NVIDIA to launch an upgraded lineup in less than a year.

I'm probably going to sell my 2080 for a Super version and settle down for the next two years.
You might be even more disappointed when the next series (whether it's called 3XXX or whatever) launches in a year or so with a new arch (Ampere) on a smaller and more efficient node (7nm) with probably a mighty bigger step-up in performance than RTX 20 Super vs RTX Vanilla.
 
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IgnotumCL

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I can't imagine what a beast will be the EVGA 2080 Ti SUPER Kingpin FTW
 
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It'll be interesting to see how much performance it will gain from a faster G6. 2080 always looked a bit b/w limited.

Just go look at some 3dmark timespy/firestrike top 100 results. Most of those will be running 16ghz or higher.

For reference my rtx 2070 with 16hz gddr6 does just over 10k graphics score in timespy, so near a 20% boost. Granted it also runs pretty locked in at 2000mhz core, but if I can get a 20% boost just with ocing I would think these super cards could see a 20% boost easily given the increased cores (if true).
 

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Don't have them anymore but I had both a 2070 and 2080 with VRAM running at respectively +1000 (16Gbps) and +1250 (16.5Gbps)and I don't remember getting that much of a boost from the memory oc
+5% maybe at most

Just go look at some 3dmark timespy/firestrike top 100 results. Most of those will be running 16ghz or higher.

For reference my rtx 2070 with 16hz gddr6 does just over 10k graphics score in timespy, so near a 20% boost. Granted it also runs pretty locked in at 2000mhz core, but if I can get a 20% boost just with ocing I would think these super cards could see a 20% boost easily given the increased cores (if true).

You're definitely not getting a 20% perf boost in game at those clocks (or at any attainable clocks maybe outside of extreme o/c)
Ran my 2070 at 1995/2000 (16Gbps) sustained and was getting around 8-10% more on average in games, which is in line with the different perf boosts after o/c I see in reviews

My stock 2080 was still easily ahead at stock

3DMark really isn't a good way to evaluate neither stability or perf
 
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