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NVIDIA RTX 20 SUPER Series
- Thread starter IgnotumCL
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I new that first batch was a stop gap. Unless your card is very old I would stay away from these new ones too. The next 3000 series or whatever it will be called is what you really want. This whole 2000 series is not the one to invest in imo. Unless you have money to burn of course.
I feel like I have seen post like this for every upcoming nvidia release ,
Also I am assuming there wont be Ti version of super rtx 2080?
Q4 2020? Sheesh, I hope Intel has something competitive, it's so frustrating coming from the CPU side where AMD have crushed Intel to see Nvidia get to mess around because no-one can compete.
I think the rumors may have had some basis in reality, but yeah, only the delusional thought it after the AMD unveil. Any plans for aggressive prices were lit on fire after the prices/specs that AMD showed. The only possible hope was if GPU shipments were awful and Nvidia needed to increase sales to appease the Wallstreet overlords.
It probably doesn't help that Lisa Su is Jensen Huang's niece. Would certainly make price collusion much easier to negotiate.
I honestly don't know why people are expecting 30 series to be a lot better in perf/price gain than 20 series was over 10.
This was the case with 10 series because of clocks mostly. Clocks are very unlikely to significantly improve on 7nm due to a number of reasons.
The only hope is that the process costs will fall down enough to allow for similar performing 7nm GPUs to be used in cheaper cards - but as 5700/Navi launch shows this isn't the case yet and it's hard to say when or even if this will happen. All new processes are kinda crap in price/transistor and it will be like this from now on until the end of silicon scaling.
Am I too dumb to figure this out or are people not getting that this is just a price cut in disguise? At the end of the day people who wanted the 2080/2080Ti will be able to get the Super equivalents for less.
What's not to like?
What's not to like?
They're not releasing for less though.
And it's been pretty easy to find 2080/2080 Ti for quite a bit less than MSRP for a while now.
I'm sure those new SUPER cards will release with prices much closer to MSRP.
Reading the news on the pricing definitely helped 'cool off' my "buy it now" mentality for a potential 2080ti super. While I'm not expecting a huge jump in performance, I would love to see how much further the 2080ti super version can push ray tracing specific graphics before I decide to purchase. Long winded way of saying, I need to see some benchmarks stat! lol
Look at how close 2080 is to 2080Ti. There, you have it.
(WTFTech claiming that a TU104-450 is actually a TU102 is hilarious. Will be even more hilarious if it will turn out to be true somehow.)
Yeah, like they did in CPUs already.
At the rate Nvidia's going the 3060 will be a $500 card.
I'm almost ready to say fuck this shit and go back to buying a console every couple years. I'll save a boatload of money doing so.
But what about those traced rays, high framerates and clean image qualities? Don't leave the master race!
/s
Yeah those prices definitely made me skip this gen of cards. But personally, I just can't go back to consoles only. I need to at least 60fps everything.
Don't forget the $60/year subscription fee on the consoles, that'll add up over time. But still, the RTX premium is the worst thing to happen to PC gaming.
There's nothing wrong with 3060 being a $500 card - if it will perform as a 2080.
People pay way too much attention to product naming.
Shoot, I was hoping old cards would drop in price. I wanted to Pick's up a 1060 6gb for close to $100 lol.
I'm happy about this. Makes my decision to buy a 2060 right now much easier.
I've waited long enough. As much as a beast as the 980ti is its run its course and i'm not waiting for a 30xxti so a 2080ti Super will be more than enough to last me until at least a 4080ti
I have similar mindset. Like the only reason im gonna build a new PC is because of cyberpunk. And im only gonna do it a month before release or so. So theres still time for next series after super, but if there isnt, im ok with super 2080ti or whatever. Its been 5 years since i had gaming pc so any kind of jump will be tremendous from my 780ti
Ouch! Well, I don't feel bad about the 2070 that I bought my wife last week, or the open-box Radeon VII that I got back in March for $600 bucks. The RTX pricing is absurd, it really makes the upcoming consoles look much more desirable.
At least newer RTX cards don't have that stupid A- and non-A binning, and I imagine these Super cards won't either?
Since when do consoles come out every couple of years?
Not sure what you guys expected but a 2080 Super for $799 is almost like having a 2080Ti for that price. The VRAM is still plenty.
Yeah I got nothing. It was a poor value proposition before and it's worse now.
Isn't the 2080 Super the smallest bump of all the Super cards? I seriously doubt it's going to be 2080ti levels of performance.
Price per mT hasn't been going down since 22nm so I highly doubt that.
Maybe for CPUs. GPUs still have a lot of clock headroom between the supply and threshold voltages for frequency so one can assume they're gated by the critical path length. Lithography nodes will automatically bring down that critical path length and should let them boost frequency.
It probably is 2080 Ti performance, less cores but with faster vram & clocks it gets there.
7nm isn't great in clock increases all around. There are huge problems with self-heating and cross-talk, and these will get even worse on more dense nodes. Intel's woes with 10nm are mostly down to the fact of them not being able to reach nearly the same clocks as they are achieving on 14nm. So even despite there possibly being some headroom in GPU design for higher clocks, this headroom is actually getting smaller on newer production nodes which in turn mean that in place of NV and AMD I wouldn't spend much time trying to increase my GPU clocks right now.
I noticed my GTX 1070 isn't cutting the mustard very well in terms of 1440p gaming. I almost bought an RTX 2070 yesterday. Thank god I stopped and read this. Guess I'll just drop shit down to 1080p until new cards come out.
Will these cards eventually drop the price of the current 20XX model? Or will the more expensive price to the Super cards keep them around the same?
Looking to get a 2060 or a 2070 to upgrade my AMD 290. I can do a $350 2060, but the cheaper the better.
Looking to get a 2060 or a 2070 to upgrade my AMD 290. I can do a $350 2060, but the cheaper the better.
