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[NXGamer] Commodore Amiga vs Atari ST: Part 1 Hardware & Operating systems explained [25:12]
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Nice, bookmarked!
Don't we got tons of this kind already? He better stick to something little more unusual!
We do? I've seen a few going on about the history and such but never someone going deep on the technical side of the machines.
You can find tech analysis for these computers and the old consoles with some searching, a few channels are really good - Nostalgia Nerd, while a bit of a daft name does really good stuff for this.
Haven't watched yet. But will very soon.
Thanks NX Gamer, this is my shit right here. I actually owned both. ST first and then various Amiga's. I had much love for both systems. Good to see him back making some videos too. The games comparison video should be quite something too.
Thanks NX Gamer, this is my shit right here. I actually owned both. ST first and then various Amiga's. I had much love for both systems. Good to see him back making some videos too. The games comparison video should be quite something too.
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Absolutely loved watching that.
It's great to see a similarly aged UK take on what was the scene back in the day.
From the speccy to the Amiga and the hours and hours of messing around on workbench, deluxe paint, lightwave, midi music makers and gaming its what make me creative and doing what I do now.
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It's great to see a similarly aged UK take on what was the scene back in the day.
From the speccy to the Amiga and the hours and hours of messing around on workbench, deluxe paint, lightwave, midi music makers and gaming its what make me creative and doing what I do now.
❤️❤️❤️
Wonderful stuff, I'm looking forward to part 2, and the Amiga 1200 vs. Atari Falcon 030 follow-up (please?).
It's amazing how Commodore could basically have had the Amiga 500 out in 1985 or 1986, but they messed up completely, misreading the market and focusing on all kinds of shit inbetween. Atari ST was an impressive piece of kit for basically being rushed to market once Amiga refused to give them the license for their chipset, but it was indeed a very archaic architecture. Amiga was five years ahead of its time. Mega Drive was similar but was released much later, and SNES had a few top modern effects but was a weaker system overall. It took CD-ROM and 256 colour graphics on PC to get comfortably ahead, and those weren't available until around 1994.
Uh? Commodore created the Atari ST.. When Tramiel left Commodore and bought up atari, he left with the C64's successor plans and released it as the Atari ST... Commodore scrambled to find something and bought up the amiga startup (and project) to compete (Amiga was a weird adventure and were out of their original funding)
Maybe the ST was supposed to be the next Commodore computer (although I doubt it because Irving Gould would have sued the shit out of Tramiel), either way it was a rather simple system (as also explained in this video). Amiga was pursuing a deal with Atari to let them use the chipset in a new console, but Atari wanted to expand the plans to include their own 16 bit computer. Since that would have been a straight competitor to the actual Amiga, they wanted to pull out. This was in the Tramiel transitional period in 1984-early 1985 so Jack wasn't on top of everything yet, and let them pay their way out.
At least that's what I got from reading Commodore: The Amiga Years, which is almost like reading Romance of the Three Kingdoms with all the alliances, betrayals and conflict.
Amiga was indeed out of funding and desperately needed money. There were licensing talks with both Atari, Apple and Commodore. Only problem was Commodore was already wasting all their C64 cash on poor products so buying Amiga almost bankrupted THEM in turn.
Well that was brilliant. As soon as it started I recognised the music. The feels kicked right in. My friend at the time had the Atari ST and I bought the Amiga. Had loads of fun on both.
I remember doing a painting of a Ferrari F40 using Deluxe Paint, diving in to the 4096 colours and put together near pixel-by-pixel. Good times. And those demo's, loads and loads of demo's, stuff made by people who ended up being a part of major developers like DICE.
Next week's video is going to be amazing. Hoping to see Midwinter make a splash, as well as stuff like Populous and FA/18 Hornet Interceptor.
Thank you NXGamer.
I remember doing a painting of a Ferrari F40 using Deluxe Paint, diving in to the 4096 colours and put together near pixel-by-pixel. Good times. And those demo's, loads and loads of demo's, stuff made by people who ended up being a part of major developers like DICE.
Next week's video is going to be amazing. Hoping to see Midwinter make a splash, as well as stuff like Populous and FA/18 Hornet Interceptor.
Thank you NXGamer.
Hmm I would pick a much earlier date, roughly 1990-91 more or less... Wing Commander on i386@33MHz is one of the first games that made me think "uh-oh".
Actually, MCGA/VGA were already capable of doing 256 colour graphics and that's late '80's. CPU were also going very strong on the Intel side, due to the Amiga keeping the M68000 as the base processor for the most popular gaming model, the A500.
By that time 3D was already becoming a trend and bitplane graphics wasn't helping either... I wish AAA and/or Hombre made it to the market, who knows what might have happened.
My thoughts exactly. King's Quest V came out in 1990, and I remember its 256 color graphics being a big draw. CD-ROM was popularized in 1993, and Doom was there as well. At that point PC was comfortably the most popular computer platform for gaming.
That was almost a decade after the Amiga launched. And even though PC was better, colour wisr it had been once IBM released VGA in 87. In many other areas it was only smaller leaps in one and back in others, sound for example.
It was a great time as i had so much equipment from PC to Amiga and console and they all felt so new and different even with the same games.
