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NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo drops the n-word in radio interview
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what the fuck .why
“I’m just quoting the times”
“Excuse my language”
Doesn’t that mean you probably shouldn’t say it?
“Excuse my language”
Doesn’t that mean you probably shouldn’t say it?
Jesus Christ he approached his utterance of that word like he was sitting down to a 5-course meal.
Hm. I'm a little torn here, since without using the word I'd have no idea what he was trying to refer to when speaking about the word that was used against Sicilians (N-word Wops is kinda confusing imo). On the other, you don't necessarily have to go into the article in the first place, Cuomo.
Not the smartest thing to say, but it is a slur that was used against his ethnicity. Safest thing to do would have said "n-word wops" I suppose.
I would not get upset at a Muslim/arab person using "sand-n*****," for example, when describing slurs used against their people.
I would not get upset at a Muslim/arab person using "sand-n*****," for example, when describing slurs used against their people.
Are you serious
What else could “n-word” be in this scenario, even if one had zero knowledge of the historical treatment of Italians and Irish, as you seem to...
N-word Wop is a specific phrase used against a specific sort of person.
He was using a derogatory term about Italians that included the n-word. Which is in and of itself clearly an issue as being black itself was/is an insult. Irish and Italian immigrants we're once depicted as dark skinned as an attack which is several layers of fucked.
I'm not saying this is great, but he was clearly discussing discrimination and not being discriminatory.
That said: don't say the word ever.
I'm not saying this is great, but he was clearly discussing discrimination and not being discriminatory.
That said: don't say the word ever.
Cuomo being garbage isnt new, but in this case i'd just tell him to stop being stupid and just say "the n word". You dont need to quote anything
I too would be confused if he had only said "N-word Wops" because the "n-word" could be any word that starts with the letter N.
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I've never heard it, so it's new to me. Would've been fairly confused (and looked it up tbh).
I’m of the mind that adults having a discussion on discrimination and slang can say the n-word, but that it should be used only in grave circumstances to highlight hate and ignorance. Quoting the Times or not, to compare the treatment of Italians to black slaves is moronic. The Cuomos are showing a real victimization streak.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go off telling a mixed guy that he should be aware of what all slurs look like, especially when discussing a different ethnic group.
Let me make it clear, just to cater to the lowest common denominator here: I'm not excusing it. Just saying my initial reaction is torn because he's discussing discrimination. Just saying "N-word" is fine, and the best bet, but I wouldn't have known wtf he meant without looking it up.
If only there was some way for you to be informed about this. Shame.
It's basically this, but he still should've said n-word because the slur he is referencing is no longer common usage and Italians have been considered white in this country for decades. Arab people are not considered white (some may be white-passing) and the racism against them is current and prevalent, so even though I think the comparison you are drawing is valid it is also slightly flawed.
Not a fan of Cuomo, it's not a good look for him but it's also not the worst thing he's ever done.
As a half black Latino with Trinidad and Tobago heritage , go ahead and educate me.
He should have just used "N-word" but I understand he is relaying his experiences of being called that by other bigots. It isn't meant to be inflammatory but more of like "I had to experience being called this shit."
WOPs. Non-italians used to refer to Italian immigrants using the status a lot of police gave them upon arresting them for being illegals - WithOutPassport.
This is a weird situation, because if he's actually mentioning a racial slur that was used against his people and calling it out AS the racial slur it is, that doesn't seem like the worst thing in the world. These words and slurs existed. It's not like he's trying to use it for fun.
Third-generation Italian American here, and I've certainly heard that one mentioned in passing by my grandparents and great-grandmother (old-school NY Italians) as a term that was directed at them in the Depression era. It's weird to think that Italians spent a good chunk of the 20th century not being considered ethnically white until civil rights happened and then suddenly racist white people were like "ITALIANS AND IRISH, C'MON IN!"
Third-generation Italian American here, and I've certainly heard that one mentioned in passing by my grandparents and great-grandmother (old-school NY Italians) as a term that was directed at them in the Depression era. It's weird to think that Italians spent a good chunk of the 20th century not being considered ethnically white until civil rights happened and then suddenly racist white people were like "ITALIANS AND IRISH, C'MON IN!"
