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it's usually followed by " if you think it's so great there why don't you move there" or something like that

My response would be "I've tried, but i'm not good enough apparently". At which point i assume the hyper patriotic American's brain would explode at the concept of

A) An American not being good enough to be accepted someplace

B) An American actually being the under qualified immigrant *mild shock*
 

Chamaeleonx

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The next time someone unironically asks "do you really want the US to become like western Europe" show them this:

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The irony that even the Europe graph isn't ideal for today's society. It could/should have been even better.

Don't forget paid maternity leave:
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Personally I don't understand how some countries don't have the leave for both genders. I know, its probably "money"... .

The Only Thing, Historically, That's Curbed Inequality: Catastrophe
Plagues, revolutions, massive wars, collapsed states—these are what reliably reduce economic disparities.

The lessons of violence and inequality through the ages

Only catastrophe truly reduces inequality, according to a historical survey

Yeah, falls probably into the same category as the Black Plague that gave so many people jobs because so many died and everybody was searching for the last unemployed. I think these two things are linked, inequality and population numbers.
Still we talk about revolution being bad and all. =/
 

Baji Boxer

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Last I checked Dems had control of the government too and didn't change the trajectory of income inequality.
True. When Democrats' have a majority, it is generally a false one because of the extremely wide spectrum they represent. Even with a supermajority, you will get a handful of legislators who are pretty far to the right of Clinton. Maybe it would be different if we could get more left leaning anti-status quo young people to the polls.
 

Dennis8K

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But a new report from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) offers a more straightforward — and political — explanation: American policymakers have chosen to design an economic system that leaves workers desperate and disempowered, for the sake of directing a higher share of economic growth to bosses and shareholders.
Disgusting.
 

Zen

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You mean those in power are greedy shitheels with a fuck you got mine attitude? No way!
 

Green Yoshi

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A hundred years ago income and wealth inequality in the USA were similarly bad, but the New Deal and the GI Bill among other things improved the situation until the 1980s.

But I'm afraid things will only get worse before something new can emerge from the ashes of the collapse.
 

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To be fair, this was at least partially debunked in the thread already:

You two are going to talk past each other because the term "midwife" in the US can mean a wide variety of professions, from advanced degree nurses, to woo-heavy certificate "professionals." Generally, the term is protected in places like the U.K. (or most of the EU, I'd presume).

Anyway, high infant mortality in the US is largely due to what we include in our birthing statistics, and race-related inequality. Iirc, for example most European countries don't include extremely premature births in infant birth/mortality data sets, while the US does. That difference in measurement alone accounts for almost half the variance.

Of course, anything related to childbirth is massively political, so data will be cooked and seasoned appropriately depending on underlying philosophy.
 

dabig2

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Not good enough. Farage went out there with a straight face, Dubya just got photographed in front of a banner.

I remember back during the '08 election we had McCain infamously saying "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" right as the bottom dropped out. Video of that perhaps?
 

element252

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This one is quite funny. America is beyond basic criticism at this point since it shows that accelerationism can be beat by monthly iPhone contacts and cheap burger-soda combos. Bread and games nationwide in one of the richest nations on earth and certainly the most dominant one.

Got to give it to the US elite and centrists, they played their game like chess masters. All is left is to further develop small settlements and finalize the US as a hollow bottle to serve the interest of those that profit off labour and military might. The minions can then complain all they want in shit tier class in their shit tier jobs while the rich minority lives gated.

Islands of wealth surrounded by seas of poverty.

And people wonder why democratic socialism is gaining public support in this country, despite the chorus of corporate media and career politician naysayers.
 

Roy

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eventually it's just gonna be Bezos with 98% of all the money in America and the rest of us will just share the leftovers. And if you try to question this system, they'll say "hey man, don't attack the job creator"
He worked hard to where he got! He sold stuff out of his own garage and even did the packaging himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He deserves!
 

Afrikan

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Mark Blyth had a good lecture on this and why people vote against the interests.



Thanks for this video... watched the whole thing, as well as another video when he presented in front of Congress. Also the one when he was on Tucker Carlson's show. With Tucker quiet and listening the whole time...lol. With yes the same Tucker face.
 
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This is one of the main reasons I believe the powers that be push racism towards white people. Keep them focused on a scapegoat while the real enemy sits back and get fat. Had we gotten past all the racist bullshit during the civil rights movement, we could've been focused on this and not having the country so divided.
 

LegendofJoe

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This is one of the main reasons I believe the powers that be push racism towards white people. Keep them focused on a scapegoat while the real enemy sits back and get fat. Had we gotten past all the racist bullshit during the civil rights movement, we could've been focused on this and not having the country so divided.

MLK had a mission to do just that, it's why he was assassinated.
 

entremet

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This is one of the main reasons I believe the powers that be push racism towards white people. Keep them focused on a scapegoat while the real enemy sits back and get fat. Had we gotten past all the racist bullshit during the civil rights movement, we could've been focused on this and not having the country so divided.
It was planned all along. After MLK was assassinated came the War on Drugs and tough on crime rhetoric that devastated inner cities for generations. The GOP then went all Southern Strategy and here we are.
 

LegendofJoe

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It was planned all along. After MLK was assassinated came the War on Drugs and tough on crime rhetoric that devastated inner cities for generations. The GOP then went all Southern Strategy and here we are.

Yep, the oligarchy in this country needs to brought to its knees. They are the people standing in the way of what needs to be done. We need to crush them, they no longer deserve their wealth and priviledge.

A Russian Revolution is coming because our wealthy are too insulated and stupid to understand that they've pushed things way too far. What's coming is entirely avoidable, but they're too dumb to realize it. The ruling class in the US is beyond disappointing, they're disgusting.
 
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Almost 80% of US workers live from paycheck to paycheck. Here's why

Today, fewer than 7% of private-sector workers are unionized, and public-employee unions are in grave jeopardy, not least because of the supreme court ruling. The declining share of total US income going to the middle since the late 1960s – defined as 50% above and 50% below the median – correlates directly with that decline in unionization. (See chart below).



Perhaps even more significantly, the share of total income going to the richest 10 percent of Americans over the last century is almost exactly inversely related to the share of the nation's workers who are unionized. (See chart below). When it comes to dividing up the pie, most American workers today have little or no say. The pie is growing but they're getting only the crumbs.

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Over the same period time, antitrust enforcement has gone into remission. The US government has essentially given a green light to companies seeking to gain monopoly power over digital platforms and networks (Google, Apple, Amazon, Facebook); wanting to merge into giant oligopolies (pharmaceuticals, health insurers, airlines, seed producers, food processors, military contractors, Wall Street banks, internet service providers); or intent on creating local monopolies (food distributors, waste disposal companies, hospitals).

This means workers are spending more on such goods and services than they would were these markets more competitive. It's exactly as if their paychecks were cut. Concentrated economic power has also given corporations more ability to hold down wages, because workers have less choice of whom to work for. And it has let companies impose on workers provisions that further weaken their bargaining power, such as anti-poaching and mandatory arbitration agreements.

This great shift in bargaining power, from workers to corporations, has pushed a larger portion of national income into profits and a lower portion into wages than at any time since the second world war. In recent years, most of those profits have gone into higher executive pay and higher share prices rather than into new investment or worker pay. Add to this the fact that the richest 10% of Americans own about 80% of all shares of stock (the top 1% owns about 40%), and you get a broader picture of how and why inequality has widened so dramatically.

Another consequence: corporations and wealthy individuals have had more money to pour into political campaigns and lobbying, while labor unions have had far less. In 1978, for example, congressional campaign contributions by labor Political Action Committees were on par with corporate PAC contributions. But since 1980, corporate PAC giving has grown at a much faster clip, and today the gulf is huge.

It is no coincidence that all three branches of the federal government, as well as most state governments, have become more "business-friendly" and less "worker-friendly" than at any time since the 1920s. As I've noted, Congress recently slashed the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. Meanwhile, John Roberts' supreme court has more often sided with business interests in cases involving labor, the environment, or consumers than has any supreme court since the mid-1930s. Over the past year it not only ruled against public employee unions but also decided that workers cannot join together in class action suits when their employment contract calls for mandatory arbitration. The federal minimum wage has not been increased since 2009, and is now about where it was in 1950 when adjusted for inflation. Trump's labor department is busily repealing many rules and regulations designed to protect workers.

The combination of high corporate profits and growing corporate political power has created a vicious cycle: higher profits have generated more political influence, which has altered the rules of the game through legislative, congressional, and judicial action – enabling corporations to extract even more profit. The biggest losers, from whom most profits have been extracted, have been average workers.
 
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