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Subba

Banned
Feb 23, 2018
162
The only good thing that could come from this would be the federal government finally going belly up and slashing tons of programs.
 

JABEE

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,854
The only good thing that could come from this would be the federal government finally going belly up and slashing tons of programs.
How is that a good thing?

People starving on the street and going without medical care so the donor class can increase their power over the rest of society.
 

Deleted member 19003

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,809
Christ. Just a visual reminder of how lopsided such a cut would be

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Bran Van

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
1,540
Cutting Capital Gains taxes are good in theory because it does increase investment and boom property markets

But in reality it just increases the wealth divide and make property prices unattainable for young people. See: Australia
 

ABIC

Banned
Nov 19, 2017
1,170
Wow. I'm not ultra wealthy but 99% of my net worth is in stocks and this will help.

One thing to realize is that capital gains triggers at the 1 year point with no further tax incentives to hold more than 1 year outside of the gain on the principal.

This law would actually create incentives to hold for longer periods, and in some ways would be even more beneficial as we'll see some trading strategies swing towards weighing to the long term. In fact, retirement portfolios of the middle class would massively benefit as that holding timeline is decades.
 

GaimeGuy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,092
Wow. I'm not ultra wealthy but 99% of my net worth is in stocks and this will help.

One thing to realize is that capital gains triggers at the 1 year point with no further tax incentives to hold more than 1 year outside of the gain on the principal.

This law would actually create incentives to hold for longer periods, and in some ways would be even more beneficial as we'll see some trading strategies swing towards weighing to the long term. In fact, retirement portfolios of the middle class would massively benefit as that holding timeline is decades.
This isn't a law. It's also not legal.

Taxation power lies with Congress, not the Executive Branch.
 

Saganator

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,069
Cutting Capital Gains taxes are good in theory because it does increase investment and boom property markets

But in reality it just increases the wealth divide and make property prices unattainable for young people. See: Australia
If we had a surplus, a solid safety net, fair income equality, fully funded social security, and single payer health care, I would be open to talking about cutting capital gains tax, especially if it more regular folk had capital gains to tax.
 

rambis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,790
I would be for this policy if it wasnt for that trillion dollar hole in the deficit.

Americans in general need higher wages and more interest/knowledge in investing.
 

Host Samurai

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,170
So this is on top of the tax scam that was passed?

Trump using the US Government as a Ponzi scheme is not surprising.
 

Ada

Member
Nov 28, 2017
3,737
Read a comment on the NYtimes site that basically captured the essence of this move. "smash and grab time" for the republicans, get as many freebies in before they potentially lose the house.
 

GuyIncognito

Member
Nov 2, 2017
77
New York
Bad optics and clearly skewed NYT headline aside, the concept of being taxed on inflation has always been crazy.

Hopefully this can be dealt with by congress to make things easier than the administrative route.
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
On the bright side, maybe people will stop believing republicans on the whole "fiscally reponsible" meme.
 
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xbhaskarx

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,143
NorCal
Read a comment on the NYtimes site that basically captured the essence of this move. "smash and grab time" for the republicans, get as many freebies in before they potentially lose the house.
Plan A: Put more money in the pockets of wealthy donors so they can fund Republican campaigns in the midterm elections
Plan B: If Republicans don't hold on to power after the election they'll at least have looted the country on their way out
 

rambis

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,790
Read a comment on the NYtimes site that basically captured the essence of this move. "smash and grab time" for the republicans, get as many freebies in before they potentially lose the house.
I agree in principle but I doubt a democratic house would undo this.
 

Saganator

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,069
Plan A: Put more money in the pockets of wealthy donors so they can fund Republican campaigns in the midterm elections
Plan B: If they don't hold on to power they'll at least loot the country on their way out
And then they only need to wait 4-8 years before they can try again, because time has shown, the average American voter has no memory and is stupid.

It's sad that it took a black man getting elected for the party to splinter (Tea Party) but Trump hasn't yet.
 

Ziltoidia 9

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,143
Pretty sure they think it is only a matter of time before they are ousted, and they want to try and get as much in as possible.
 

Katamari

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
1,126
Your average Republican believes that life is hard for the rich and easy for the poor. The poor are too lazy to work and they live like a king. The rich slave away carrying this country and their money goes to paying for the poor.

They believe we need to end these handouts. The rich already give so much through charity. And giving should be voluntary. That they are rich solely because they work harder and smarter than everyone else.

There will never be enough tax cuts until the tax rate is negative for the rich.
 

philipnorth

Member
Oct 31, 2017
553
Combined with shutting down federal gov if Dems dont pay for the wall that Mexico was paying?

Damn America.... really?
 

Sho_Nuff82

Member
Nov 14, 2017
18,442
But why?

It seems like with every passing news story about the economy and politics in the US, I can't see how the economy survives in the next 5 years.

Who cares if the average American can buy a house, fix a cavity, or drive on paved roads, GDP and corporate revenue are the only metrics I need to sleep at night baby.