Discussion in 'EtcetEra' started by .Detective., Jul 16, 2018.
always thought he'd get a 2nd term
Oh boy. I can’t wait to regret turning on the TV and seeing his shitty ads every time.
Hate to be the one to say this..... but I think dude is going to win again. His supporters won’t let anything faze them.... so much so that more people will vote for him next election than did last time.
He's definitely getting a 2nd term. The media loves him and he will get his free publicity buffet again while his opponents have to spend money.
What happens to this money when he is impeached before the next election?
I will be absolutely shocked if Donald Trump isn't a full two-term president. The way I see it we still have almost six and a half years of this madness (at least).
duh. there are huge monied interests who want their gravy train to keep rolling. his pockets be phat.
No amount of money is going to buy him out of grave he's dug for himself.
The sad thing is he will get reelected. He is the president and he is still campaigning doing rallies and getting funding. How is this legal in the USA?
he won't even make it to the end of his first term.
Most of which will just go into his pocket.
barely won despite all the help in the world and a uniquely beatable opponent (and said help making more beatable). What's he gonna do when he can't just go "BUT EMAILS" and get "lock her up" chants? What does he do when faced with a charismatic talker who can take him down verbally? What can he do now that his "unknown" quantity is gone (wherein many voters convinced themselves he'd be a moderate in office, or was gonna be a pro-worker president) and he's exposed as just another uncaring extreme conservative stooge?
I can't comment on the status of investigations because who knows where they will be at in 2020, but given how far they've progressed with 32 indictments already, it's very likely a lot of terrible shit will have come out about the Trump admin and Russia by then. But acting like 2020 will be the same for him as 2016 was is foolish.
I'm calling it. The nation's lost at that point. I'm not going to be here when he picks six Supreme Court Justices or some shit.
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I agree with you that the nation is lost if we don't self-correct in the next 3 years, but even if we're lost, I won't be able to leave.
That's what happens when you start your campaign literally the 1st day of your presidency and constantly have rallies. Campaigning has to be the one thing Trump actually likes about the whole presidency.
In any case, it's definitely an advantage, but as seen in 2016 money isn't everything. If Trump hasn't managed to wreck the economy through tarrifs in two years, he stands a decent chance, but not a great or fantastic one. I'd say it's a 60-40 for him winning based solely off an incumbency advantage, which is certainly not overwhelmingly good odds he'll win. A decent enough candidate and hard push by democrats can get his ass out of office.
And people said he won't get re-elected, HA!
Biden, Kamala, Booker, and Gillibrand wouldn't be enough to stop Trump. They are more of the same type of politician as Hillary was: More in the center and corporate-leaning. If you want a formidable opponent against Trump, you need a Sanders or Warren. The right has taken a hard turn to the right, and it worked for them. The left needs to do the same. Only way to energize voters. Now you will counter that Sanders and Warren are getting too old, well then, find me a further left politician as they are, with the same energy and passion to excite Democrats, and also younger, then we'll talk.
I'm somewhat concerned but at the same time I half expect him to misspend it on Trump portraits and legal fees, so...
Whoever wins the Democratic presidential nomination when the time comes let it be a clean clear victory and stand behind that person. If your preferred candidate doesn't win don't sulk in a corner like some 2016 Bernie supporters.
*report of a decent amount of money in his campaign (slush) fund*
“I knew it, he’s totally winning re-election!”
JFC, these are some stupid takes.
This gif is more apt than it seems at a surface glance.
Trump's lawyers should raise their prices, apparently he can afford it.
Heh, he didn't look like he even wanted to be president now he doesn't want to leave.
Forgive me for asking but why the hell are Dems not coming out to fight. I see next to nothing it in the press and I do try to look. (perhaps in the wrong places)
If you mean they need a presidential candidate, those will come after the midterms as they do every time. From January on, you'll see Dems announce candidacy.
If you mean they need to be out there campaigning in general for the midterms, they are, in massive numbers. Fundraising, canvassing, voter operations, etc are insane right now for Dem candidates, which there are a record number of this year.
I share everyone's fear of a second term of Trump but please remember that he barely won and he's done nothing but bleed support since January 2017. You're not going to crack his insane base but you only need a gain of 75k votes in a few states and this nightmare is over. Early 2020 polls have "Generic Democrat" over Trump 44 to 36.
I think people get wrapped up in the idea that we need to make republicans turn on Trump. They're not going to. A lot of them didn't even like him to begin with, they just didn't want the democrat.
Sure, a lot of republicans are "ashamed" of Trump's actions, but as soon as there's a name on that Democrat, the shit-flinging will start. It's on the democrats to field the best possible candidate and campaign in every state.
Can he use these funds to pay for lawyers?
The issue is not money, it's that treators don't plya by the rules.
So uhm do Dems have a good candidate for 2020? Because if their candidate is weak again Trump will easily win.
Trump won't have his main advantages from 2016. He's not a traditional incumbent. He now has a political record that he'll have to defend, and he comes across terribly when he's defensive. He is personally responsible for adding $1 trillion dollars to the deficit and counting.
He can no longer hide behind "I'm not a politician and everything bad was someone else's fault." His challenger will gets tons of media coverage and won't be treated like the status quo assumed winner like Hillary was. Also, ideally, his challenger won't be under an FBI investigation--and the Mueller probe could very well still be ongoing.