NYT: A Times Editor Is Demoted as the Paper Discusses Its Coverage of Race

the_wart

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Oct 25, 2017
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Holy shit those tweets are fuckin' nuts. How the hell do you write that John Lewis wasn't from the South and not take a step back and be like, maybe this isn't actually what I want to say.

Even aside from the racist undertones, that kind of total disinterest in basic factual reality is the shit I expect from David Brooks, not someone who is ostensibly a reporter.
 

Bastables

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Dec 3, 2017
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Read all the way to the bottom, the executive editor is cleaving to the idea that "this is hard stuff." while pointing out reporting the presidents remarks is powerful enough you don't need to use the label "Racist".

What a bunch of centrist wank and begs the question why you have editor or journalists for that matter if the NYT job is to just transcribe and then foist on the world "print" form racist speech.

I think Sam Seder's comment on this was the best distillation of what sort of guy Jonathan Weisman is:
"It's one thing to look at a a tweet and and mutter this guy. It's another thing to think I got to get in on this." In reference to describing people literally voted into office by their constitute as un-representative. Weisman really wanted to police that boundary and inform everyone that coloured and democratic reps don't count as the "real" (white) america.

 
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Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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I missed this tweetstorm when it first happened, probably because I was getting back from vacation, but Jesus, it's like a living intelligent person internalized the gerrymandered reality of "these people over here matter more than these people over there" and tried to express it as an objective reality.

It's a bafflingly dumb take for someone in his position and flat out racist given that he decided to lump in Lewis just because. Even if you make the argument that Texas and Georgia are red states by recent victories, roughly half the population of both states voted for the Democratic party in 2018. Obviously, Democratic messaging is resonating with an increasing population of voters in those areas.
 

Bonafide

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Oct 11, 2018
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Another clear example of the corporate wealthy serving media using race as a weapon against progressives

But the media isn't biased! It just tries to find any angle to attack progressives by using race even when the progressive being attacked is also black

Has nyt, wp, politico, etc ever systematically made the same mistake against the powerful??
Imagine thinking this will set a new standard for the NYT lol.

No, they will continue to push capitalism as hard as possible, "both sides" issues as hard as possible and give (what they perceive to be) decent right wingers a mouth piece.

Fuck them
Yessir.

If you are truly a progressive and seek change in the United States, you will have to eventually settle with the truth that corporate media is not on your side and will fight alongside all of the other national institutions to keep the status quo of things as hard as possible.
 

Typhonsentra

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can someone explain his tweet about John Lewis to me? John Lewis was born and raised in Alabama, was most famous for his involvement in SNCC fighting segregation in the South, and has represented Georgia in the House for 40 some years... Yet this guy thinks it is a joke to think of him as from the "Deep South"?
 

pirata

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Oct 25, 2017
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Apparently, we Austinites aren't real Texans because the majority of us don't support corporate nazism. It sure feels great when people from the coasts parrot exactly the same excuses as the crooks who gerrymander us out of the amount of representation we should actually have.
 

danm999

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Oct 29, 2017
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Can someone explain his tweet about John Lewis to me? John Lewis was born and raised in Alabama, was most famous for his involvement in SNCC fighting segregation in the South, and has represented Georgia in the House for 40 some years... Yet this guy thinks it is a joke to think of him as from the "Deep South"?
Weisman has internalised the mindset of white supremacy to the extent he cannot process a non white person as normal or representative of vast swathes of the country.
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
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You guys know how some conservative types in the south/midwest think they're the "real America" while "urban/coastal elites" are some kind of unamerican yuppie socialists, despite the majority of America living on the coasts?

Weissman is a case of the "urban coastal elite" buying into this very myth and that brown people either don't represent the midwest/south or just shouldn't be there.
 
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SGRX

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Oct 25, 2017
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The fact that this guy still has a job at all says everything that needs to be said about the NYT's integrity. Those tweets weren't remotely subtle.
 

Zoe

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can someone explain his tweet about John Lewis to me? John Lewis was born and raised in Alabama, was most famous for his involvement in SNCC fighting segregation in the South, and has represented Georgia in the House for 40 some years... Yet this guy thinks it is a joke to think of him as from the "Deep South"?
He's saying he doesn't reflect the true deep south.

I can really only comment on the Doggett part of the tweet. It's not an uncommon sentiment that he (Austin) doesn't reflect the rest of Texas. Depending on your audience though, that's a complement towards Doggett and an insult to the rest of Texas.
 

Lord of Ostia

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Oct 27, 2017
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He's saying he doesn't reflect the true deep south.

I can really only comment on the Doggett part of the tweet. It's not an uncommon sentiment that he (Austin) doesn't reflect the rest of Texas. Depending on your audience though, that's a complement towards Doggett and an insult to the rest of Texas.
Which is ridiculous because black people make up a huge portion of the deep south.
 

cameron

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Oct 26, 2017
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Eric Columbus @EricColumbus

Wait until he learns the editor was demoted for racially insensitive tweets. https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1162038755093598208 …

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump​

Wow! The Deputy Editor of the Failing New York Times was just demoted. Should have been Fired! Totally biased and inaccurate reporting. The paper is a Fraud, Zero Credibility. Fake News takes another hit, but this time a big one!

12:30 PM - Aug 15, 2019


12:34 PM - Aug 15, 2019