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NYT: As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening for Tech Giants
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All the shit that's been released in the media I can't help what sort of crap isn't public yet.
They may not have actively needed or used the functionality and they may have only wanted to view or accomplish a specific task, like a Messenger bot.
But the point is that they had access to the function regardless of if they took advantage of it. Facebook's security preferences and permissions are so shitty that a bank can look at your private messages without your express permission and with no way of turning it off.
Naver, the corporation that owns Line, would have just been aquired by Google or Facebook if it had. That's the game Facebook plays.
Name a competitor that people can move to and I'll gladly tell everyone I know to move to it.
We were always the product and they milked us for everything. Think I'm actually going to delete my account. I held on to it for so long but I don't even see the point anymore. I haven't made a facebook post in like 5 years. I don't use it daily, but adding to the MUA numbers just makes me feel dirty kinda. They're the scum of tech companies, they make Twitter look good.
Phone calls. Email. Text.
You don't need a social media service to communicate with people.
You can share photos via email. You can talk to friends and family via phone.
I didn't say for me.
Now, let's try again. Name an alternative that I can convince friends and family to move to, who won't do as you're suggesting due to facebook's convenience.
Why do you need to convince anyone? You, just you, stop using it. And if people want to talk to you, do it through email or text or phone.
You don't need it. But whatever, you're not looking to be convinced. Stay part of the problem.
I find I need it to stay in touch with the casual acquaintances that I don't know well enough for a phone number, so basically stuck.
The thing that keeps people returning to Facebook is the people who use Facebook. The more who move away, the more that convenience is replaced with tumbleweeds.
Really, all Facebook's gotten out of me these last ten years or so are what mobile games I've linked through my account, and cobwebs.
I hardly ever use fb as it is, pretty much just on to stay connected to the occasional old friend and family who still use it a lot. I should probably delete it.
And you're not reading my post. I didn't say for me.
I'm asking this question for people that I know, not in the forum bubble, who still use the platform. They won't be convinced by me simply saying 'just go back to the way things were'. They need a better, facebook-esque alternative.
The only way for me to convince people to leave facebook is for that question to be answered. They want an alternative to it, not to exile from that convenience completely.
I personally use Nextdoor. More local, more business oriented. Somewhat similar. Try 'er out.
Edit* there's also Minds which I haven't delved in to much yet.
There isn't one. And I know you don't want to hear this but they really don't need Facebook in their life. It's an addiction, and it isn't treated by giving them a better alternative drug.
Instead of suggesting another service I'll just link this: https://medium.com/@JBrown/9-ways-f...ental-health-and-what-you-can-do-b14d46725670
Then this solves nothing. Talking down to those people and telling them what they already know regarding addiction won't make them leave facebook. You need an actual legitimate competitor. While some or most of us on this forum may not mess with facebook anymore, it doesn't mean we represent the millions(or possible billions) who still do. That userbase is what should be aimed for in taking down facebook. The last real competitor that I know of to one of facebook's properties(Instagram) was Snapchat, and they screwed themselves over with terrible UI redesigns.
This is exactly what it is and I can't convince them otherwise.
I know a lot of people who try to quit Facebook thinking this and crawling back when they craters their social life. I dont know about the US but in Australia you'll find that basically nobody wants to talk to you enough to use email. Not to mention that because they're used to being reminded you exist they'll often just forget about you.
I'm in this boat. Were it not for most of my friends being on there or Instagram, I would be able to leave. But they're not going to do that, so I can't. Also, Facebook is the only place people post events. So unless I just don't want to be invited to stuff, I have to have one.
Here is the solution to those with social problems and leaving Facebook.
1. On your profile, unlike literally everything. Don't have a tv show, movie, book, band, anything, "liked". Make your profile as basic as possible.
2. Uninstall the phone apps.
3. Check face book once a day from a web browser for any events you get invited to.
So far this has worked like a dream. When I check via a web page, the feed will have 2-3 actual posts from my friends and that's it. Because I've unliked everything, it has no idea what it "should" show me.
1. On your profile, unlike literally everything. Don't have a tv show, movie, book, band, anything, "liked". Make your profile as basic as possible.
2. Uninstall the phone apps.
3. Check face book once a day from a web browser for any events you get invited to.
So far this has worked like a dream. When I check via a web page, the feed will have 2-3 actual posts from my friends and that's it. Because I've unliked everything, it has no idea what it "should" show me.
I would leave Facebook today if I didn't need to promote events. I don't ever post anything personal or even interact with people I know on their anymore my wall is nothing but things I'm tagged in.
If they really are content with it then there is little you can do except wait for Facebook to mismanage the service into oblivion.