Usually, capitalists aren't considered leftists at least in my definition
a true leftist!
Supporting a fascist state should definitely preclude you from being progressive as that's what we're trying to oppose. Also, her main concern with the Syria strikes is that trump didn't go to congress for permission. She also supported Obama's Libya strikes despite him not going to congress for permission.
So nobody who invests money can be a leftist? Wow, I hope that view doesn't take hold or the Left really is in trouble.
... An excellent job at confirming the quote your responding to. If "capitalist" is the end all of being considered "left" then there is in fact nobody to satisfy you.
Leftists tend to be anti-capitalist. Socialists, communists, anarchists, etc.
Then why are you even posting in this thread? That isn't the Democratic Party. Not even AOC fits this definition. The Democrats are left leaning and liberal. It is not a party of communists and anarchists.
No that's completely ridiculous. We're never going to make any progress with that kind of thinking.
You're right that the Democratic Party isn't communist or anarchist, but that doesn't mean that we won't try to influence the party to move further to the left. So yes, AOC isn't a capital S socialist, but that doesn't mean we don't or won't support her efforts.
Just because capitalists take advantage of people doesn't mean those who oppose them are all anti-captialist. Your definitions are really off-base.
Yeah, you'll need to be a little more specific than "they". Like who?
Denying reality and accumulated knowledge is not a good thing. Not geography. Not medicine. And not economics.
Regulated economy does not equal anti-capitalist.
No, in reality. You are placing an impossible absurd standard of liberalism on the Democratic Party that is impossible and downright absurd to meet.
Lol socialism isn't liberalism so I'm not putting an absurd level of liberalism on the Democratic Party. But people are trying to push the Democratic Party further left, yes. That's basically one of DSA's missions.
The DSA it not pushing to get rid of capitalism and bring in communism.
Most of the labor unions back then were headed by socialists
Ah, so you are being intentionally vague because you don't have an answer. Gotcha.
Voting for the Patriot Act was dumb but she also voted against extending it in 2011.
I actually don't feel like doing the research to find specific answers to satisfy you, but a lot of the labor unions were headed by socialists. MLK was pretty much socialist especially when he began to ramp up his poor people's campaign. Malcolm X correctly said that you can't have capitalism without racism. The black panther party was straight up Marxist-Leninist.
The year ion wasn't whether someone was challenging her from the left but whether or not there are reasons progressives might not want her and there are reasons.
Nah, they live in reality and are pragmatic. No leftists think that we'll have socialism within our lifetimes however we will work towards it. Furthermore, like I said, we live in reality and feel the oppression put upon us by capitalism and know that the system must be dismantled. Capitalism hasn't been here since the dawn of time and it won't last until we are all gone... unless it continues to kill us through climate change.
Because one system is shit but encourages those of decent moral character to still be interested in seeking power.
The problem is that there's the hypothetical question of "is Pelosi a perfect candidate" and the practical question of "is there someone better than Pelosi who's challenging her and deserves our support." Of course Pelosi can be better, everyone can be better. Bernie Sanders can be better.
The question was whether or not progressives could have a problem with Pelosi which has been proven. Obviously, we're stuck with Pelosi because the ones we want to be speaker don't want it and like AOC said, Pelosi is the most progressive candidate, but there's nothing wrong in voicing our opinion on the issue.
psst progressive and liberal mean the same thing in the American vernacular and trying to distinguish the two is dumb
