-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
Oculus is forcing Virtual Desktop dev to remove VR Streaming function in Quest
- Thread starter Deleted member 12790
- Start date
The Quest was never intended to be used as a PC VR headset.
It's stand-alone, portable VR. That's what you get when you buy a Quest and it works quite well.
Ewwww. Well after watching valves shit in action I figured these cats weren't getting my VR money anyway. Their right to do so, but still not digging it.
Carmack ain't done with the things Quest can do yet. This is a hiccup IMO.
I dunno, I watched that boneworks(may be incorrect name?) demo and I've never seen anything like it.
I'll buy an Index when it's wireless and uses no lighthouses.
I'm not being snarky, because it will happen, probably in 2.5 years.
Oh I feel you for sure, I can't blame you. I'm not buying into VR at all until we have more big games and less short experiences. I believe it is the future whether we like it or not. The potential is unreal, just needs a bit more refinement.
Like, I get it: this blows a massive hole in the Quest's walled garden. With that said, I don't think anyone would be complaining nearly as loudly if Occulus' curation of the Quest Store hadn't been so blatantly bullshit.
There have been so many bad decisions over the last few days that directly affect me. What are these companies thinking?
The Apple antitrust case can't happen soon enough. At least that way we will get a legal stance on these kind of practices.
Imagine if Apple allowed you to sideload any app you choose and allow unauthorized app sources?
I wouldn't compare Quest to Apple.
While it's crap (and transparent that this is cynically driven rather than wanting to uphold quality or whatever nonsense), the Quest isn't a closed hardware platform fortunately. There's already a couple of solutions to do this same thing installed on my Quest, and the developer of this says he's going to release his work for sideloading.
Whether they don't want people spending money on Valve's store, or whether they're planning their own solution they intend to sell in some way, for people that bought this software for this feature, it's 100% bullshit they did this. Fortunately most will be able to get refunds, but not everyone will and all should.
Meanwhile I've been playing Beatsaber mods, and Quake and Doom ports.
So TLDR, Oculus are being shitty and anti consumer here, but the Quest isn't a closed hardware platform and games can be modded, and you can install software without buying it from the Oculus Store including software that lets you stream games from Steam VR.
Lighthouse 2.0 seems like a complete debacle IMO. It's actually more expensive than LH1 (and people were giving HTC a lot of shit for the old 1.0 prices). It wasn't supposed to be so expensive, so I'd love to know what happened to the production process that made things go so off track. I'm definitely with you that it's not a technology with any future. It was an ingenious solution that solved a problem in 2016. It's outlived that usefulness.
Wireless stalling out has been perplexing me (since Gabe was promising HMDs would be shipping in 2018 with it built in), but it all seems like it hinges on 802.11ay (which has been repeatedly delayed and is supposedly going to be finalized in March 2020). 802.11ay is the real deal, though. It's what VR needs to have no compromise wireless VR.
So I think it could absolutely happen within 2 years. I'm going to be disappointed if it doesn't.
Doom got ported to Quest, too? I don't suppose either of these have comfort options (ie vignetting when moving)? I don't think I can handle movement in either of these without vignetting.
I'll buy a Quest when I can get reliable 360 controller tracking with no blind spots and controllers on par with the Index controllers that I can actually let go without dropping the controllers.
Two can play at this game, mate. I'd rather deal with the initial setup and cables for the Index than settle for the limitations of the Quest.
Wireless is one thing, but if Valve thought camera tracking was mature enough to be worth implementing, it'd be in the Index by now. I'll consider lighthouses to be obsolete when camera tracking becomes 1) as accurate and 2) eliminates blind spots for controller tracking. And the only way I see the latter ever happening as if the controllers themselves get cameras for independent tracking.
A wireless add-on is certainly happening at some point, though.
I think another big thing that Lighthouses (or a similar solution) offer is the capability for full body tracking. I have Vive wireless trackers for full body tracking in the games that support it and it's amazing. It brings VR to an entirely different level of immersive and I can't imagine going back to not having them for the games I use them in. It seems something that would be very difficult to pull off without an external tracking solution like lighthouses.
The quote wasn't even what Valve was going to do. As far as I'm concerned, they die on some odd hills. But whatever. They're still the most interesting player in the arena. It's whether you could get a SteamVR HMD that was wireless and computer vision based within the next 2.5 years.
HTC is releasing the Vive Cosmo in Q3. This is a computer vision based HMD that's running SteamVR natively. If this combo is now an option (and it certainly seems that way), hopefully more companies will start taking the computer vision/Steam VR track. Lighthouse's insane cost is the reason Valve wasn't able to attract a single major CE company besides HTC. It'll be ideal if this new possibility can bring more manufacturers into the SteamVR ecosystem. And as far as I'm concerned, Quest and Rift S have already reached the good enough category. Everything else is just gravy at this point.
HTC is releasing the Vive Cosmo in Q3. This is a computer vision based HMD that's running SteamVR natively. If this combo is now an option (and it certainly seems that way), hopefully more companies will start taking the computer vision/Steam VR track. Lighthouse's insane cost is the reason Valve wasn't able to attract a single major CE company besides HTC. It'll be ideal if this new possibility can bring more manufacturers into the SteamVR ecosystem. And as far as I'm concerned, Quest and Rift S have already reached the good enough category. Everything else is just gravy at this point.