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Oculus Quest |OT| There Are No Strings On Me!
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I think I'm gonna make a back-weight, how much did you add to balance it correctly ?
9 ounces. (!)
3 at 3 each.
It feels great to me with that much weight, but I have a thick neck.
So I finished my first Alyx playthrough completely over Link, I definitely had stuttering but it didn't bug me enough to detract from overall enjoyment. After I beat it I tried starting a new game with Virtual Desktop's newest beta and holy moly it runs a lot smoother, almost zero stuttering. The only issue is it doesn't look nearly as clear visually as I remember it being on other titles, and changing between the stream quality levels doesn't seem to do jack.
I'd love to experience the whole thing again without stuttering but I just can't deal with the compression artifacts I'm seeing over VD and there's definitely less feeling of presence due to the latency. Hoping to find a middle ground here with troubleshooting to at least improve the IQ, it also looks like its running at a lower res than over Link.
EDIT: Seems I forgot to select HEVC from the codec drop down on the desktop streaming client, looks much better now!
In other news Quest is getting a new update this week and next, hopefully rollout is finally smoother this time, the feature I'm looking forward to is the cable latency test for Link, plus a double tap on the side of the headset for passthrough sounds great:
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I'd love to experience the whole thing again without stuttering but I just can't deal with the compression artifacts I'm seeing over VD and there's definitely less feeling of presence due to the latency. Hoping to find a middle ground here with troubleshooting to at least improve the IQ, it also looks like its running at a lower res than over Link.
EDIT: Seems I forgot to select HEVC from the codec drop down on the desktop streaming client, looks much better now!
In other news Quest is getting a new update this week and next, hopefully rollout is finally smoother this time, the feature I'm looking forward to is the cable latency test for Link, plus a double tap on the side of the headset for passthrough sounds great:
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A place to discuss the Meta/Oculus Quest, Quest 2, Quest 3, and Quest Pro.
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That's great... I wonder what they are talking about when saying double tap on the side of the headset? Are they talking about the power button or is there an actual capacitive surface there that I wasn't aware of?So I finished my first Alyx playthrough completely over Link, I definitely had stuttering but it didn't bug me enough to detract from overall enjoyment. After I beat it I tried starting a new game with Virtual Desktop's newest beta and holy moly it runs a lot smoother, almost zero stuttering. The only issue is it doesn't look nearly as clear visually as I remember it being on other titles, and changing between the stream quality levels doesn't seem to do jack.
I'd love to experience the whole thing again without stuttering but I just can't deal with the compression artifacts I'm seeing over VD and there's definitely less feeling of presence due to the latency. Hoping to find a middle ground here with troubleshooting to at least improve the IQ, it also looks like its running at a lower res than over Link.
EDIT: Seems I forgot to select HEVC from the codec drop down on the desktop streaming client, looks much better now!
In other news Quest is getting a new update this week and next, hopefully rollout is finally smoother this time, the feature I'm looking forward to is the cable latency test for Link, plus a double tap on the side of the headset for passthrough sounds great:
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A place to discuss the Meta/Oculus Quest, Quest 2, Quest 3, and Quest Pro.
I think it's capacitive, I know in Espire 1 for instance you can use it for activating a vision mode to show infrared laser fields in game, and you just lightly touch the side of the headset to activate it.
There was another game that had some mechanic like this that also used the tap feature but can't remember what it was.
They had this in the GearVR too but that had grooves in the shape of a d-pad for menu navigation without the need for a controller, and you'd tap the center of it to select whatever was highlighted.
Huh... The more you know!
Thanks!
It is through Oculus Link or Virtual Desktop. But no, not natively.
I have to think the visuals would have to take a huge hit in order for it to run on the Quest.
There's no possible way that Half-Life: Alyx could run natively on a Snapdragon 835. No matter how much Valve would try to scale it back it's simply an impossible task.
Have you ever played VR before if not I would start with
Superhot-(Get this please)
Robo recall
Beat saber- Imo not the best for long periods but a fun game
Vader Immortal series- not the story but the god tier dojo
Fishermans Tale -a very trippy experience
Moss- great 3rd person platformer
Bait- free fishing game
Epic Roller coasters- free roller coaster shooter
Any art game- Google tilt brush, sculpt vr, gravity sketch
Gun club- Really fun VR shooting range
Richies Plank experience-Not really fun for you after the first few times but IMO the best VR "sampler" for others. It quickly shows the power or VR.
Mainly stationary games or games that encourage movement by moving your own body. VR sim sickness is real for a lot of people, after about 2 weeks getting used to VR I would move on to games like
Journey of the Gods
Apex Construct
Vader Immortal story
End space
Sairento
Pavlov (you will need to get sidequest)
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GET THE OCULUS APP NOW! And go buy a bunch of games because the sales end in 50minutes and there's NEVER any on Quest! Even Superhot is 33% off!
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*Although not sure if you can buy without having a device registered? Still you gotta try, you'll save a ton.
And remember you have 14 days and 2 hours (seems to be back) to refund anything no questions asked. Just don't abuse the system.
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First I recommend to play Oculus' free First Contact and First Steps.
Highly recommended *IF*s:
If you like Pinball: Pinball FX2 VR is the next best thing to having a real table in your home. DLC is also great, tho pricey.
It's on sale on a bundle with Thumper VR (also a great game if you like the genre)
If you like table tennis: Racket Fury is amazing. The physics are incredible. And you can also play online.
If you have at least 3m x 3m room and want to have a fiendishly hard workout:
The Thrill of the Fight
if you like Star Wars and have a Jedi/lightsaber fantasy: Vader Immortal.
The obvious:
SUPERHOT VR
Beat Saber
Pistol Whip
Sport Scramble Demo
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Quick reminder that the sale ends in less than 1 hour
there's a lot of great stuff too bad I own most of them already
there's a lot of great stuff too bad I own most of them already
Ok then next question, whats the recommended cable to get for Link support?
Has anyone noticed BoxVR tracking *way* better in Link than in the native Quest app? Have been getting frustrated at missing punches in Quest and tried Link and at first look it seems a lot better...latency and all!
If this is the case...are there other games that are the same?
If this is the case...are there other games that are the same?
Shouldn't the tracking be the same since it is still the Quest doing the tracking in both cases? Are you playing in the same location with the same lighting when you use the Link?
Oculus links to the recommended alternative here:
Requirements to use Meta Quest Link
If you'd like to use Meta Quest Link to connect your Meta Quest headset to a Windows PC, start by reviewing these compatibility requirements.
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I currently use these two together:
Amazon.com: UGREEN USB Extension Cable USB 3.0 Male to Female Active Repeater Cable with Signal Amplifier Repeater for Printers, WiFi Antenna, Playstation, HTC Vive, Keyboard, Game Console (15FT): Computers & Accessories
Amazon.com: UGREEN USB Extension Cable USB 3.0 Male to Female Active Repeater Cable with Signal Amplifier Repeater for Printers, WiFi Antenna, Playstation, HTC Vive, Keyboard, Game Console (15FT): Computers & Accessories
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Anybody is having issues with the right hand specifically losing tracking from time to time?
Like the headset lose the right hand momentarily and the hand will just float in the middle of nowhere on screen until I physically turn my head or move up my hand to look at the controller and then it get the tracking back.
In theory it happens with both left and right controllers but I've noticed that it tends to happen a lot more with the right hand.
Something weird going on with the inside out tracking I guess?
Like the headset lose the right hand momentarily and the hand will just float in the middle of nowhere on screen until I physically turn my head or move up my hand to look at the controller and then it get the tracking back.
In theory it happens with both left and right controllers but I've noticed that it tends to happen a lot more with the right hand.
Something weird going on with the inside out tracking I guess?
Oh man, I'm torn on how to play Alyx now...
Virtual Desktop - Better image quality, wireless and I can use it in a more open space for room scale.
Oculus Link - Better/smoother hand tracking which makes throwing objects a bit easier and more consistent.
Virtual Desktop - Better image quality, wireless and I can use it in a more open space for room scale.
Oculus Link - Better/smoother hand tracking which makes throwing objects a bit easier and more consistent.
thanks
Is it not best to have a cable that is at a right angle to help with stress on the connection on the headset?
Probably better starting from scratch. You use BMBF I think. I have no idea if it still works with the latest update though.
It doesn't. I just tried setting it up on Friday for the first time only to find out it hasn't been updated yet.
I bought a right angle adapter to do that.
Amazon.com: URWOOW Right Angle Type C USB 3.1 Adapter Extension 90 Degree Male to Female Right & Left Angled Extension (2 Pack): Computers & Accessories
Amazon.com: URWOOW Right Angle Type C USB 3.1 Adapter Extension 90 Degree Male to Female Right & Left Angled Extension (2 Pack): Computers & Accessories
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I tried Virtual desktop but just couldn't get it working reliably. I have a good router and am using 5GHz but just ended up returning the app and going back to Link.
Very happy with Oculus's return policy!
For Link I'm using the same setup as piratepwnsninja. Works well! The cables are a little heavy but I route them in through the back of the headset and that helps.
Meanwhile, I still didn't get the quest software update. I thought everyone was supposed to get it this week?
Very happy with Oculus's return policy!
For Link I'm using the same setup as piratepwnsninja. Works well! The cables are a little heavy but I route them in through the back of the headset and that helps.
Meanwhile, I still didn't get the quest software update. I thought everyone was supposed to get it this week?
Virtual Desktop has had massive gains very recently for me at least. When I tried it two months ago lag/stuttering varied game to game and several had some major tracking bug or such that made it impossible to play. At it's best it was very playable but a noticeable step down from Link. Still liked having it just because I don't really have a proper play space near my computer so it was nice to be able to take it into the living room for specific games or to demo something.
But in the most recent couple of betas it's been pretty great. Everything I've tried is playable and most of the time I really can't perceive whatever difference there actually is. And if I use HEVC encoding the image quality actually looks better in dark areas than the link did, where I could notice a lot more compression or some kind of visual artifacting. The Developer clearly works hard on it if you check the discord, on there all the time updating on fixes.
Actually makes me happier with the Quest purchase, as I was a little mixed on if I should have just gotten a Rift S.
But in the most recent couple of betas it's been pretty great. Everything I've tried is playable and most of the time I really can't perceive whatever difference there actually is. And if I use HEVC encoding the image quality actually looks better in dark areas than the link did, where I could notice a lot more compression or some kind of visual artifacting. The Developer clearly works hard on it if you check the discord, on there all the time updating on fixes.
Actually makes me happier with the Quest purchase, as I was a little mixed on if I should have just gotten a Rift S.
Anyone played Lies Beneath yet? I love the EC comics Mignola-esque art style. But would like to read some feedback before dropping $30.
Yep, played for an hour and change earlier. I think it's one of my favourite games on the machine, and easily one of the most polished. Apparently it's like 6+ hours long too. Shotgun feels amazing if you're into that. If you're into the art I'll just say right now that the art SUPER delivers, too.
I just got the update for the Windows Oculus software and, for once, everything went through smoothly!
You have to enable the experimental features 1 by 1 on the headset menu itself (for the new universal menu and for the passthrough shortcut) and both are working great! It's so nice to finally have a passthrough feature!
You have to enable the experimental features 1 by 1 on the headset menu itself (for the new universal menu and for the passthrough shortcut) and both are working great! It's so nice to finally have a passthrough feature!
Yep I just came into the thread to post about this. I just fired up HL Alyx for the first time and it looked fantastic with the latest VD. I'm not sure I need to use Link as untethered is better and I had no stutters and excellent image quality.
As an aside I know I'm late to the party but HL:A looks INCREDIBLE! I just spent a bunch of time hanging out in the first few rooms just checking out the environments.
Yes, it's much easier to use for streaming and the quality is better. Plus I do actually use it to for it's main purpose of using my computer in VR from time to time. You can always try it and get a refund if it's not worth it to you.
The streaming stuff needs to be activated using SideQuest. So you need to buy VD then install an alternate build which includes the streaming function with SideQuest.
I think I'm done with Link--I was singing its praises initially because VD was a stuttery mess for me. But the latest version of VD is A M A Z I N G. It just works. I actually get better performance on my GTX 970 playing Alyx through VD than I do through Link.
Exceptional software.
Exceptional software.
To my eyes Link still has better latency in Alyx vs VD but haven't tested Asgard on the latest Link/VD version, though I had pretty spotty performance of it over Link and AWFUL stuttering in the tavern area, whereas VD had much smoother performance for Asgard.
I used to use VD almost exclusively for anything PCVR but have swapped to Link, my performance is quite a bit better than before since the latest firmware update from Oculus. The new VD update is mighty impressive though, it's amazing how much the dev has been able to improve it since initial Quest release.
Been playing Lies Beneath, great balance of horror and combat, actually feels like legit survival horror with how easily you can get overwhelmed. Good use of 3d audio too, the sounds of the enemies are creepy as hell and has you wondering where they are. Definitely one to play with a good pair of headphones.
Wow. I refunded Asgard's Wrath because I suffered from that awful stuttering in the Tavern Area. I thought it was my PC but sounds like it might actually be link ? I have a GTX1070TI, an i3-6100 and 16 gb RAM. I was playing on a hard drive and on low settings. I know it's hella weird to have an i3-6100 with the rest of that set up but I actually managed to get a nearly new 1070ti for 300$CAD which is why it's there with the rest of the budget build haha.
Yeah I dunno about that cpu lol but for reference users with 2080ti were reporting poor performance at launch with Asgard. IIRC some said having it installed on an SSD removed these issues but I still get the stuttering on mine over Link. It's a great game but the dev didn't optimize it that well imo.
I tried it last week and just couldn't get Virtual Desktop working well enough, for long enough. I'm using 5GHz wifi and such and generally have a great connection with everything but virtual desktop was just a bit too much for it to handle I guess.
One thing that was strange about virtual desktop was that when I was trying to tweak settings they didn't seem to stick. I'd increase or decrease settings which affected bit rate and it would take a while or a complete re-launch for them to take effect. So I was stuck with either poor quality which worked smoothly or good-looking quality which performed poorly and no easy way to switch between them reliably.
All that said, thanks to Oculus' refund policy you could try Virtual Desktop for yourself and return it if it doesn't work for you.