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Oh right, close to 500 people were shot a year ago

Sibersk Esto

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Kind of crazy to think about how something of that magnitude, in so public a place, just sort of got swept away. I've been alive to see some of the deadliest mass shootings in history, and this is the worst one ever in the U.S. Doesn't feel like it affected people the way that number should.
 
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Sibersk Esto said:
Kind of crazy to think about how something of that magnitude, in so public a place, just sort of got swept away. I've been alive to see some of the deadliest mass shootings in history, and this is the worst one ever in the U.S. Doesn't feel like it affected people the way that number should.
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1000 got shot in one shooting?
 
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Truly horrific, but lets not say 1,000 people were shot. Close to 1,000 people were injured, but not all injured were shot.

I'm staunchly against everyone owning a weapon, but it doesn't help the cause to mislead, as conservatives and gun nuts often use those angles against us ("dishonest", etc).
 
Officer Big Mac

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850 injured from gunfire and the panic that ensued. Surely the number of people wounded or killed from a gun was much less.

Whatever the number it is still a great tragedy. One our government has decided isn't a problem.
 
Fliesen

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Well, over 20.000 were "shot at".
Close to 1000 were "injured or killed" (by gunfire or panic)
Close to 500 were actually "shot".
58 people died from bullet wounds.

"1000 were shot" is just a weird way to put this.

Still ... crazy numbers. Absolutely crazy. :(
 
Wraith

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Can we maybe edit the title so this entire thread doesn't become "wait a minute, those numbers seem off to me."

The first post and intended discussion are totally valid, let's talk about that instead of "that title though!"
 

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Yeah, 500 shot brings the same point home, no need to lie.

Absolutely crazy how any time a mass shooting happens, millions are more concerned with what it might mean for their guns than what it meant for those affected.
 
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Yeah, 500 shot brings the same point home, no need to lie.
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I don't think it was an intentional lie. Probably saw the 850 injured and didn't realize that many of those were from the chaos after the shooting. Still a result of the shooting, whether it was directly or indirectly.
 
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I was thinking about this the other day and how sad it is that the people there (along with thousands of others in US) have died for nothing. At least if the event brought around gun control to prevent future events then, if it was possible to think after death then a victim would probably think: at least something was done about it.

Instead nothing was done. Brushed under the carpet.
 
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I made a mistake with the injury count. I have requested a thread title change.
 
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Wraith said:
The first post and intended discussion are totally valid, let's talk about that instead of "that title though!"
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Title is a good example of "you're not helping". Gun nuts sniff around for any hint of hyperbole to jump on because part of the ammosexual complex is this aching to be put upon, justifying their hoarding habits. There's probably already a subreddit going full steam about how some liberal cracknut started a thread about "1000 people shot" and how the crazy left would do anything, anything to take their guns.

Not that they'd ever take it down a notch so that's nothing to lose sleep over, but thread title did more harm than good (incremental either way). Probably meant well, but live & learn.
 
Mr. X

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I don't think 500 actual hit by gunfire makes this thread any different.
 
Mr. Giggles

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1000 people? In one shooting?

I can remember about 500 people from the incident in Vegas....did something else happen?
 
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No one in the public eye has even talked about this for months because they know the blood is on their hands

Just one of many many many
 
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Don't worry guys, we'll finally get a ban on bump stocks, something most gun owners don't own, care about, and think are pretty shit and mostly a gimmick. Did you know you could actually get the same effect from a rubber band as you can with a bump stock?
 

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Sandyhook forever proved that no tragedy will be enough to widely change minds.

Only thing that will change minds is minorities arming themselves. Only that will show the true danger of lax gun laws.
 
MrNewVegas

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Time flies. This did not feel like a year ago yet it feels like it's been hidden from the public eye for a long time.

It does seem like this is just a whatever shooting in the eyes of the public. It doesn't seem to hold the weight of McVeighs bombing or even Tupac's murder in the same spot.
 

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The one-two punch of this and losing Tom Petty is still something I'm struggling with after a year. Was in Vegas not even a month after the shooting and it was surreal how somber things were.
 
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I think the lack of motive impacts the narrative and is why there's less cultural resonance.
 

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We couldn't even get bump stocks banned. The NRA came out in the wake of this and supported banning bump stocks. Gun nuts on the right lost their shit and we got nothing changed whatsoever. JFC USA. But I don't even think this should be a surprise at this point. I can't remember who said it, some YouTube pundit on the left (TYT?), but they made the point that after Sandy Hook, if we didn't implement gun control measures after 6 year olds were gunned down, then we aren't going to do shit, ever.
 
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The U.S. government does not see mass shootings as an issue worth attempting to solve. Some portion of the U.S. population thinks any attempt at solving this issue infringes upon their god-given right to commit murder. I think eventually they will lose, but I don't know how.
 
Zelenogorsk

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I rember seeing the headline and thinking "nothing is going to change" and unsurpisingly i was right.
 
DigitalOp

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I fucked up and found the worst video of the Vegas incident.


Ground Zero after everyone fled, with a few people crying and wailing in agony over the death and chaos. People huddled over their loved ones. Bodies everywhere.

Shit is burned in my brain forever
 

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The crazy part to me was that a year later in Vegas, there wasn't even a pat down at Life is Beautiful. I get that the metal detectors would keep out the weapons but the lack of security was shocking. I could have smuggled in entire bottles of liquor into the festival every day and like a dumb ass I paid $24 for mojitos.
 
chuey

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I went to the Tableau Conference in Vegas a week after this happened. It was kinda surreal. Everyone went on with their day like nothing happened.
 
DJChuy

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The whole thing was crazy, and it sucks that nothing has been done.

The biggest thing that irks me is the country singer blamed video games for the shooting. I mean some of your fans died that night, and you want to put the blame on games?
 
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