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HotAndTender

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Dec 6, 2017
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It's been on my mind for years and years to learn to speak spanish and since i've got a lot of spare time due to the worlds events i thought i'd give it a go.

I've seen Babble and Duolingo are the most popular websites/apps to use but i was wondering if there's anyone hear that prefers a single platform or if there's an alternative?

¡Gracias!
 

AgentOtaku

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Oct 27, 2017
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Always curious about this as well as I'm a Puerto Rican who can't speak a lick of it either :(
I did have mild success with Duolingo tho
 

Hollywood Duo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,964
Duolingo is the best free resource there is. There are a bunch of podcasts that you can use too. I liked Coffee Break Spanish although they do focus more on European Spanish.
 

HardRojo

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
26,128
Peru
Well, I'm a native Spanish speaker so I can share my experience learning English if it's any help for you. I did study the basics at an institute, that was enough for me to get a decent grasp at the language and after that I simply kept studying on my own by playing games and watching movies/shows with English audio and subtitles, reading stuff in English on the Internet in a daily basis, reading English and communicating with others in English as often as I could.
Basically, study the basics any way you can until you get a basic grasp that'll let you navigate through some media and keep going from there. Spanish is a hard language to learn perfectly as a foreigner, it has many quirks but don't worry about them, learn at your own pace and keep trying to make it part of your daily life somehow.
Edit: And I haven't lived for long in an English-speaking country, only that one time I lived in the US for about 6 months, but I was already very fluent by then.
Mi cana de pescar esta en la cocina.
The ñ in caña is very important, it could be the difference between saying "What a year!" (¡Qué tal año!) or "What an anus!" (¡Qué tal ano!).
 
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personally I like memrise. I really like the learn with locals feature so that it's not just a robotic voice that you listen to.

languagetransfer is really good. I would recommend listening to this mixed with duolingo or memrise for added vocabulary.

after that, if you are willing to pay, italki is great for tutoring. gospanish is good as well.
 

Keyser S

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Oct 26, 2017
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Lot of people have said Duolingo is not the best at teaching grammar when it comes to spanish

Lingodeer is good option for that - Babble too.
 

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These are the most important words you should learn: Insecto. Sabandija.
 

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I started using Pimsleur a few months ago during my commute. Coronavirus has put a halt to it recently, but when I was using it everyday, I would say that it was probably the most effective app I'd used because it was all about speaking. The only thing that sucks is it's expensive. It's $20/month for a subscription on the mobile app, and like $500-$600 to buy a full course, outright.

Also, just to put a dampen on the Pimsleur thing a little, it's important to know that there isn't one single learning resource that will teach you everything from nothing to fluent. You have to use a combination of learning materials and immersion. So if you don't want to pay for Pimsleur, then you can use Duolingo and supplement it with a book or some other online resource, and you'd be just fine for learning the basics. And even if you did go with Pimsleur, then you'd still have to supplement it with a book or something else to get the basics down.
 
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HotAndTender

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Dec 6, 2017
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I'm willing to pay for more extensive learning so i think i might go with Duolingo

Also, just to put a dampen on the Pimsleur thing a little, it's important to know that there isn't one single learning resource that will teach you everything from nothing to fluent. You have to use a combination of learning materials and immersion. So if you don't want to pay for Pimsleur, then you can use Duolingo and supplement it with a book or some other online resource, and you'd be just fine for learning the basics. And even if you did go with Pimsleur, then you'd still have to supplement it with a book or something else to get the basics down.

Yeah i understand i'm not going to be fluent with just using an app, weirdly enough i love listening to raggaeton and the Viva Latino playlist on spotify so there's that. Also Tom Segura is doing a podcast in spanish so i could give that a go in the future.
 

janusff

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,135
Austin, TX
spanish is easy!

do you know how to spell socks? S O C K S

you just said something in spanish! it means, "thats, what it is!"
 

Fhtagn

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've been learning Spanish with Duolingo and I think at the pace I'm going it's going to take years to get anywhere, but I am picking up vocabulary and some grammar. Remembering which bebe, bebes, bebo to use for a given sentence is killing me though.
 

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I've been learning Spanish with Duolingo and I think at the pace I'm going it's going to take years to get anywhere, but I am picking up vocabulary and some grammar. Remembering which bebe, bebes, bebo to use for a given sentence is killing me though.
This is the verb Beber.
Yo bebo
Tú bebes.
Él/Ella bebe.
Nosotros bebemos.
Ustedes beben.
Vosotros bebéis.

Vosotros appears in dictionaries, but in the case of Latin America, I hardly have seen it. I had a Guatematelcan classmate that uses vos, though. Dunno if in Spain vos is also used.

Sometimes, when I'm confused, I use WordReference to guide me. They also have a table how each verb is conjugated in different times.

Also, be careful with bebe. Spanish uses tildes, and in the case of bebe, there is also another word which is almost the same. Bebé. But this bebé means baby, not drink.
 

CarpeDeezNutz

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Oct 27, 2017
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All I could speak was Spanish when I was a kid, my mom said I complained as a kid when we moved to Texas from Mexico I could not make friends coz they didn't understand me. Now I speak broken ass Spanish.
 

Tenck

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've been doing pimsleur and I have to say that's been the best app I've ever used for learning another language. I supplement it with Duolingo on the side, but only because I had a streak going on before I purchased pimsleur course. Didn't want to lose it, as weird as that sounds.
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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Una cerveza por favor

Also I wouldn't rely on an app to learn a language. You should take classes instead.
 

Toño

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Oct 26, 2017
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As a native speaker, I recommend you start learning spanish only from a single country or culture. The main reasons are:
1- You'll avoid the confusion of mixing expresions and language differences between countries. The spanish is a rich language with a lot of differences between countries.
2- Even with these differences, once you learn spanish from one country or culture (for example Mexico), you will be able to communicate with any spanish speaker from the rest of the world without problems.
3- When you can speak more or less fluently, you'll be able to learn about these differences very quickly.
 

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As a native speaker, I recommend you start learning spanish only from a single country or culture. The main reasons are:
1- You'll avoid the confusion of mixing expresions and language differences between countries. The spanish is a rich language with a lot of differences between countries.
Agree with the first point. In the Pokemon LatAM dub, since it was dubbed in Mexico, James loves to use Mexican terms An example is Moltres el Guajolote Macías. I had to search in a dictionary to find guajolote means pavo, or turkey in English.
 

werezompire

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Oct 26, 2017
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This is the best system I've found: https://www.theulat.com/

The first 15 lessons are freely available on the site so you can check it out without signing up for anything.

Only downsides are that the only languages taught are Spanish, French, and English & it's mostly just done by 1 guy so the presentation is low budget. But it's the most effective way of learning a language online I've found outside of hiring a tutor to converse with you.
 

AzVal

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May 7, 2018
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please take your time to learn the gender differences, the most grating part of foreigner speaking spanish is mixing feminine articles with masculine adjectives and viceversa, e. g.: "la caballo" "el perra", etc
I've been learning Spanish with Duolingo and I think at the pace I'm going it's going to take years to get anywhere, but I am picking up vocabulary and some grammar. Remembering which bebe, bebes, bebo to use for a given sentence is killing me though.
and you haven't reached the funny conjugations yet, bebiera, bebiese, bebierase, bebase, beba
 

Qwark

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Oct 27, 2017
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I like Duolingo a lot, but imo you don't really know a language until you can play through a game in it. Some games I've found useful for that, Pokemon, Final Fantasy (really depends on the translation quality of the specific game though, 9 has some weird accents built in that can make it tough), Animal Crossing Pocket Camp, Skyrim.
 

Regulus Tera

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Oct 25, 2017
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Duolingo is good for discovering vocabulary, but I suggest you try to get into a more focused study method so that you know how sentence structure works.
 

Regulus Tera

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REMINDER:

á = Alt +160
é = Alt +130
í = Alt + 161
ó = Alt + 162
ú = Alt + 163
ñ = Alt + 164
Ñ = Alt + 165
ü = Alt + 129
Ü = Alt + 154
¿ = Alt + 168
¡ = Alt + 173
 
Oct 25, 2017
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México
REMINDER:

á = Alt +160
é = Alt +130
í = Alt + 161
ó = Alt + 162
ú = Alt + 163
ñ = Alt + 164
Ñ = Alt + 165
ü = Alt + 129
Ü = Alt + 154
¿ = Alt + 168
¡ = Alt + 173
Are we in 1995?

Every Spanish speaker using a US keyboard should switch the language settings in the OS settings to US - International. That way, you can press the apostrophe key once and then the vowel to add a tilde. With that keyboard layout, you can also press ALT (right) + N to write Ñ. Same with ¿ and ¡... you just press ALT (right) + ? or ! to write ¿ and !

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QWERTY - Wikipedia

 

Regulus Tera

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Oct 25, 2017
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Are we in 1995?

Every Spanish speaker using a US keyboard should switch the language settings in the OS settings to US - International. That way, you can press the apostrophe key once and then the vowel to add a tilde. With that keyboard layout, you can also press ALT (right) + N to write Ñ. Same with ¿ and ¡... you just press ALT (right) + ? or ! to write ¿ and !
I wouldn't recommend people who are just getting into learning Spanish to start by switching their keyboards.

(to be fair, this was more directed to the Spanish speakers who keep making spelling errors in every single one of these threads)
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,987
México
I wouldn't recommend people who are just getting into learning Spanish to start by switching their keyboards.
It's the same.

It only changes the right Alt key as an AltGr key to support many additional characters directly as an additional shift key. This layout also uses keys ', `, ", ^ and ~ as dead keys to generate characters with diacritics by pressing the appropriate key, then the letter on the keyboard.

But this tip is mostly for bilingual (Spanish and English) members of Era reading this thread using a US keyboard. Most people do not know about US-International.
 

MegaRockEXE

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Oct 29, 2017
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The important part to learning any language is using it day to day. If it weren't for the lockdowns, you could more easily go to a primarily Spanish-speaking grocery store and get by on your learned skills there.
 

Acidote

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Oct 26, 2017
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This is the verb Beber.
Yo bebo
Tú bebes.
Él/Ella bebe.
Nosotros bebemos.
Ustedes beben.
Vosotros bebéis.

Vosotros appears in dictionaries, but in the case of Latin America, I hardly have seen it. I had a Guatematelcan classmate that uses vos, though. Dunno if in Spain vos is also used.

Sometimes, when I'm confused, I use WordReference to guide me. They also have a table how each verb is conjugated in different times.

Also, be careful with bebe. Spanish uses tildes, and in the case of bebe, there is also another word which is almost the same. Bebé. But this bebé means baby, not drink.
In Spain it would be:
Yo bebo
Tú bebes.
Él/Ella bebe.
Nosotros bebemos.
Vosotros bebéis.
Ustedes beben.

"Usted" is pretty much not used coloquially save for two tiny areas. It's used in the most formal ocassions, like talking to a higher ranking work colleage and until the formalities are dropped.
 
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HotAndTender

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Dec 6, 2017
856
I've got Duolingo and flying through the first few sections, i know the very very basics but i understand the gender differences will be a bit hard at first.

Changed my iPhone to spanish also
 

GYODX

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Oct 27, 2017
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Always curious about this as well as I'm a Puerto Rican who can't speak a lick of it either :(
I did have mild success with Duolingo tho
As a Puerto Rican, I think our Spanish would be really hard for non-native speakers to learn.

The only non-native I've met who could speak Puerto Rican Spanish *really* well was this young Ukrainian guy I had as my multivariate calculus professor a couple of years ago. But that dude was a literal genius.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,987
México
I've got Duolingo and flying through the first few sections, i know the very very basics but i understand the gender differences will be a bit hard at first.

Changed my iPhone to spanish also
One tip. Most words that their last vowel ends in A are feminine, and words that their last vowel ends in O are masculine.

  • Silla = Feminine
  • Sillón = Masculine
  • Carro = Masculine
  • Sandía = Feminine
  • Melón = Masculine
  • Bicicleta = Feminine

So now you can add El/La depending on the genre:

El = Masculine
La = Feminine
  • La silla
  • El sillón
  • El carro
  • La sandía
  • El melón
  • La bicicleta

And for plural:

Los = Masculine plural
Las = Feminine plural

  • Las sillas
  • Los sillones
  • Los carros
  • Las sandías
  • Los melones
  • Las bicicletas
 
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HotAndTender

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Dec 6, 2017
856
One tip. Most words that their last vowel ends in A are feminine, and words that their last vowel ends in O are masculine.

  • Silla = Feminine
  • Sillón = Masculine
  • Carro = Masculine
  • Sandía = Feminine
  • Melón = Masculine
  • Bicicleta = Feminine

So now you can add El/La depending on the genre:

El = Masculine
La = Feminine
  • La silla
  • El sillón
  • El carro
  • La sandía
  • El melón
  • La bicicleta

And for plural:

Los = Masculine plural
Las = Feminine plural

  • Las sillas
  • Los sillones
  • Los carros
  • Las sandías
  • Los melones
  • Las bicicletas
Amazing, thank you very much.

I'll have to start writing everything down to learn that way as well