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DerpHause

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Oct 27, 2017
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The fact that most of us aren't even faxed by this is very telling.
I love me some drpgs, kind of a shame that so many of them suffer from excessive "fanservice". I mean, Dungeon Travelers had great gameplay and mechanics but the pedo thing was just too much.

This is what the game is. This isn't unexpected between the NSFW in the thread title and the entirely representative thumbnail. Where you typically see reactions is where these things pop up without belonging, in games with wider, more general appeal that isn't, or at least shouldn't be, tied to sexuality. Especially when it's contextually jarring. This is as opposed to when the content is as surprising and unexpected as finding water in an ocean because that's literally what the game as a whole is trying to be.
 

LuckyChamCham

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Oct 25, 2017
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*reads the last page or so*

Looks like it's time to...

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I'm with you friend!
*runs away*
 

BGBW

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, some people like child pornography, some don't. No big issue.
You know child porn is illegal right, yet this is perfectly legal to release. Only got a PEGI 16 rating too, rather than the harsher PEGI 18. This game comes across as the gaming equivalent of the Daily Sport, it's crass, but it's not doing anything wrong.

I'd also like to think this forum is above sneaky pedo accusations (cos we all know that's what you're really alluding to). I'm not a fan of these types of games, but I'm even less of a fan of this type of behaviour.
 

Deleted member 1378

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How is this disingenuous when it's literally what's depicted in the game?
Do they look like grown up women, or like minors in school girl uniforms?
every single character has gigantic breasts. the point of the game is gigantic breasts. making breasts bigger

meanwhile you're trivializing the victims of cp to try and "gotcha" a poster by comparing it to a video game that features no sex or nudity of any kind

the kind of trauma involved in the former makes it fucked up to even compare it with a game where you just make cartoon drawings with no nudity get bigger tits

do i think loli shit is gross? absolutely. i don't touch the majority of anime or anime games because of that. but if you're coming in here to contrast people who like this game with pedophiles and ask for it to be banned, i'm gonna take issue
 

Yian

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I could have sworn games like DT2 and MM got banned on the other site because they were censored and every single thread would inevitably turn into a conversation about censorship that would go in circles and accomplish nothing, at least that was my understanding so the gross sexualization wasn't the primary reason.

This game isn't censored so it should be fine, worst we'll see is what we're seeing now up there^ which already happens in threads for tons of games (basically anything anime and almost anything with a female protag will see these discussions about sexualization and objectification of women).
That wasn't the reason for the ban
 

GTAce

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Oct 27, 2017
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meanwhile you're trivializing the victims of cp to try and "gotcha" a poster by comparing it to a video game that features no sex or nudity of any kind
I didn't want to directly compare it, but I find this "some people like it, some don't" a BS argument, when there are people out there who like shit that's not okay either.
Maybe my CP reference was a bit too harsh and I apologize for that, but the game is, even if it's not showing full nudity, sexualizing minor looking characters and sorry for me having a real issue with that.

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What?
I am not sure where I said that.
Nah, wasn't directed at you personally, it's just one of those old apologies.
"This 12 year looking girl is in truth a 1000 year old demon so it's not a problem"
 

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I didn't want to directly compare it, but I find this "some people like it, some don't" a BS argument, when there are people out there who like shit that's not okay either.

this is absolutely dumb because you're comparing an anthill to mount everest. it's about as intellectually dishonest as comparing spilling warm hot chocolate on someone to murdering someone by throwing them in lava.

Maybe my CP reference was a bit too harsh and I apologize for that, but the game is, even if it's not showing full nudity, sexualizing minor looking characters and sorry for me having a real issue with that.

why are you so aggressive? you apologize then go straight back to making everyone know how much better you are than the people who like this game. no one else is being rude to you, so why be rude to others?

on top of that - again, the game is about making these women have bigger breasts. yes, there's a variety of cliche designs you find in almost any modern anime product. i'm not a fan of these designs, so i'm not playing the game. i find it gross. i'm not coming here to shit all over the people who do enjoy it, and i'm not going to be rude to people who can calmly and genuinely discuss their issues with the game. you comparing these people to pedophiles is some of the most disingenuous shit i've seen on this website and your entire string of posts in this thread seem like you fulfilling some weird need to reassure yourself and others how much better you are than people who can enjoy this

on one last note, just to reiterate

never, ever compare people who like things you find problematic pedophiles if they're not pedophiles.
 

zetsubou

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but I find this "some people like it, some don't" a BS argument,

When that's literally how you chose to argue using CP.

You know what else is a BS argument? I don't like xyz so xyz shouldn't be here.

We get it, you don't like it. Move on.

Or is your endgame here to get people arguing enough that mods close the topic?

You can respond to me or not. I don't care and will not respond.
 

GTAce

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Oct 27, 2017
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why are you so aggressive? you apologize then go straight back to making everyone know how much better you are than the people who like this game. no one else is being rude to you, so why be rude to others?
I'm not aggressive, I'm simply disgusted.

never, ever compare people who like things you find problematic pedophiles if they're not pedophiles.
So, when does the sexualization and objectification of minor looking characters become problematic for you?
You even say yourself it's gross. Why do you think so, and why do you have a problem with me saying it?
If you think it's gross, you must have a reason to do so, I'd like to know it.

and your entire string of posts in this thread seem like you fulfilling some weird need to reassure yourself and others how much better you are than people who can enjoy this
Then this seems wrong, I find this game and similar titles extremely problematic and I just can't look away.

And also again, I didn't say that anyone here is a child molester.
 

Morrigan

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Remember to stay civil when disagreeing and do not make personal attacks.
 

Deleted member 1378

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So, when does the sexualization and objectification of minor looking characters become problematic for you?
You even say yourself it's gross. Why do you think so, and why do you have a problem with me saying it?
If you think it's gross, you must have a reason to do so, I'd like to know it.

when there are real, actual children being exploited for this shit

i think it's gross because I don't enjoy seeing characters over the top with sexualization

and, you'll notice, in my posts - i've said outright that i don't care if people raise problems with these games when they have good intentions! same with people who defend them!

but when i see someone implicitly accuse others of pedophilia i feel the need to comment

if you have problems with the game, write to the publisher. make a petition. take to social media. there are better ways to approach things than insulting people on a message board



this will be my last post in this thread. i don't want to derail this any further from the game. GTAce, you're more than welcome to engage me in PMs here or on any other platforms if you're truly interested in discussing this.
 

Kyle Cross

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Just because they're drawn in a certain style, doesn't mean they don't look like they're in a certain kind of age.
Otherwise the whole art form doesn't make any sense.
Considering anime characters who are mothers look the same as their teenage daughters, no, they really don't look "a certain kind of age."
 

Gold Arsene

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Just because they're drawn in a certain style, doesn't mean they don't look like they're in a certain kind of age.
Otherwise the whole art form doesn't make any sense.

I mean anime ages are so random at times I just find it hard to taker seriously.
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Guess which one is meant to be 15 and which is 21?
 

GTAce

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I mean anime ages are so random at times I just find it hard to taker seriously.
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Guess which one is meant to be 15 and which is 21?
Well, I know this is just an opinion and don't mind anyone disagreeing with me here, but I'd say the artstyle is pretty bad then.
Anyway, neither of these posted characters by you look like 12 year old schoolgirls to me, just silly.

EDIT: Oh and I'd say the bottom one is 15 because of the face. Of course I could be wrong.
 

MoeGamer

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I have to wonder why anyone who finds games like this "disgusting" feels the need to show up in a thread like this and be antagonistic. It's not as if there's a shortage of other games to discuss and, as has been said, this is a niche interest title that will appeal to a small but dedicated audience. If you don't like it, move on with your life. Very simple. I find CoD disgusting so you know what I do? I ignore it and concentrate on what I do love.

Comparing fans of this kind of game to paedophiles is what got Jed Whitaker fired from Destructoid, and good riddance to him too.

Also I might add there are plenty of women out there, both gay and straight, who enjoy fanservicey games. I invite you to read this piece I wrote on the subject a while back, and especially encourage you to read the link within to the story by "Atma". It's about Valkyrie Drive and Senran Kagura rather than this game, but the points stand. https://moegamer.net/2017/07/08/des...eview-is-more-than-just-bad-games-journalism/
 

GenericForumName

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Trying to determine an anime character's age by their appearance is something only someone unfamiliar with the medium would try to do, and it's always funny.

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That's a school teacher

Old enough to drink

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calc84maniac

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Well, I know this is just an opinion and don't mind anyone disagreeing with me here, but I'd say the artstyle is pretty bad then.
Anyway, neither of these posted characters by you look like 12 year old schoolgirls to me, just silly.

EDIT: Oh and I'd say the bottom one is 15 because of the face. Of course I could be wrong.
You say you don't like exaggeration of ages, but exaggerating the opposite way doesn't really help your point. Or do you really think the girls in this game look 12 years old?
 

Aeana

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trying to determine an anime character's age by their appearance is something only someone unfamiliar with the medium would try to do, and it's always funny.

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That's a school teacher

Old enough to drink

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It doesn't matter what number they associate with that, she's a child. This is why the 1000 year old dragon thing is made fun of all the time.
 

DerpHause

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Oct 27, 2017
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Regarding the 1000 year old dragon trope, I can't be the only one who finds it interesting the differing positions on it between cultures, right? Whereas one culture seems fine using it in fiction as a means to juxtapose or conceal a character's true nature, sexualized or not, another seems to condemn non-childish uses of child or child-like bodied characters, especially when they express any sexuality or are sexualized but not only limited to that.
 

Aeana

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Oct 25, 2017
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Regarding the 1000 year old dragon trope, I can't be the only one who finds it interesting the differing positions on it between cultures, right? Whereas one culture seems fine using it in fiction as a means to juxtapose or conceal a character's true nature, sexualized or not, another seems to condemn non-childish uses of child or child-like bodied characters, especially when they express any sexuality or are sexualized but not only limited to that.
Yes, people absolutely have a problem when a child-bodied character is involved in sexual situations. But I don't agree that there is a widespread problem with child-bodied characters in other senses. Take a look at the childlike empress in The Neverending Story. No pitchforks there.
 

zetsubou

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User was warned: Please do not conflate real life handicaps with artistic design when discussing the sexualization of children
There is an actual genetic disorder which causes people to look like children/teens when they are adults. Are they children just because they look like children?
 
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