Half the country is Republican. It sucks but we do need them.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
On Impeachment McConnell Vows 'Total Coordination' With Trump on Senate Process
- Thread starter UnpopularBlargh
- Start date
Half the country is Republican. It sucks but we do need them.
It's honestly good Mitch said this because he was gonna do it no matter what, at least now there's public record of him admitting it.
We don't need them in the federal government when having them in just a single branch or chamber of congress means progressive policy is fucked.
It's not. Senators can basically do whatever they want in an impeachment trial.
All that said, since it's obvious that the GOP is not going to remove Trump, it's for the best if McConnell are co. are as blatant as possible in making their acquittal lacking in legitimacy. If they had gone all-in making it seem like they were genuinely weighing the evidence, that would be worse as far as using the impeachment to harm the GOP's electoral prospects.
Need isn't the word. "Stuck with" is better. No one needs a republican just like no one needs cancer
We're really reaching a boil with this republican shyte. I'm worried for the basic integrity of our country at this point.
Kentucky is voting for Moscow Mitch again unless the country is in an economic depression that makes the Great Depression look good.
Senate rules during impeachment trial specifically require an oath to be impartial. In what world is "I'm going to coordinate with the defense, as a juror" not partiality?
Oversees the rules that Moscow Mitch creates, so Roberts is basically a decoration.
Trump didn't start his term before I knew it was a shit show. Why should I have any hope regarding McConnell and Roberts? I think we have enough historical background to not be lulled into having hope.
If the Senate are supposed to act as jurors, who does all the cross examination? Who acts as the prosecution and the defense?
Remember when they were saying they can't comment on his behavior because they're jurors? Pepperidge Farms remembers
prosecution is handled by the house and the defense is up to the accused
Looks like the GOP has adopted the Trump strategy of just announcing your crime outright before you do it. Sadly, there's less blowback this way without the scandal of Mitch inevitably being caught coordinating with Trump on his own impeachment.
Honestly we should shit on them while they are still alive.
Our government runs on scouts honor apparently.
The amount of "holy shit that's unethical... wait, it's not illegal?!" has been staggering.
I hope there's a laundry list of implicit rules that Democrats will codify once they gain control of both chambers (whenever that will be...)
In theory it means they can be charged for perjury if they knowingly lie during the trial, in practice it means someone will say they are deeply concerned that such and such senator lied and never address it again.
Collusion and lobby is what decide this.
Yesterday in chile there was an impeachment attempt on the President due to human rights violations, his defense accepted that he has omissions but that omissions aren't ilegal. Government was surprised lobbying in the bathroom with some congress members, and 8 opposition members vote against impeachment, saving the President. Every oficialist member voted accordingly.
And I guess the same could happen in your congress. Who knows what dirt could they have, or campaing money being promised/threaten. Ethics and Politics aren't friends
Yesterday in chile there was an impeachment attempt on the President due to human rights violations, his defense accepted that he has omissions but that omissions aren't ilegal. Government was surprised lobbying in the bathroom with some congress members, and 8 opposition members vote against impeachment, saving the President. Every oficialist member voted accordingly.
And I guess the same could happen in your congress. Who knows what dirt could they have, or campaing money being promised/threaten. Ethics and Politics aren't friends
"Yes, we agree that there should be checks and balances.Bur only for the other side, not ours.
But we are still the party of law and order... when law and order works in our favor, not the poor, minorities or democrats."-Some dipshit republican.
the gop are a scourge
but that's what the framers get for expecting government to only reliably function via actors ruling ethically with integrity
and if partisan hacks just let trump slide by with doing anything he wants, and he is clearly guilty, then your government is completely broken.
but that's what the framers get for expecting government to only reliably function via actors ruling ethically with integrity
and if partisan hacks just let trump slide by with doing anything he wants, and he is clearly guilty, then your government is completely broken.
Something something...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security....
Can we at least have a "day of rage" or something once King Trump is pardoned by his fascist cronies.
Can we at least have a "day of rage" or something once King Trump is pardoned by his fascist cronies.
The bolded part means what ever the Senate decides it means. There is an oath that was created in 1798 by the Senate but there is nothing stopping them from writing what ever the fuck they want.