he hangs out and replies on the Boruto thread around episode release time
yeah i know :)
As far as the "Is she or isn't she Momonosuke's sister" discussion, I could see Oda making her a red herring, but I think Oda has done that enough times recently that he will probably just make things straight forward this time to keep readers on their toes.
That's why I still have doubts.As it is now, just seems weird that Oda would introduce the mystery of her identity and her very existence at the same time, only to make it super obvious by providing us with one single candidate.
He's wearing a mask right? Maybe he's Hiyori
Eh, I'd definitely agree with you if it weren't for the fact that Hiyori is a character that only just got introduced in this arc. If we knew of her existence going into the Wano arc, then that'd be another story. As it is now, just seems weird that Oda would introduce the mystery of her identity and her very existence at the same time, only to make it super obvious by providing us with one single candidate.
I always liked his backstory the most when I started readin back in 2003 or so, including all the secondary characters from the Baratié. I actually shed a few tears when I read his goodbye for the first time lol. Robin is a close second though.
That's another problem, Oda should have introduced the "real" Hiyori by now (a Woman who fits Momonosuke's description age wise that is not on most readers' radar).
While it's possible Oda could have Komurasaki related to another Samurai of importance to the story in order to continue to build on her character, if he just drops/introduces the "real" Hiyori after Komurasaki is revealed to be a red herring, the reveal won't have any significance to the reader.
did anyone else have a terrible time following who was talking in this chapter
as this manga is aimed at young readers, surely for Oda it is difficult to talk about this kind of topics. I will not have a point of view let's say a little innocent, when talking about issues like sex or why she swindled people, etc... so to me she's not a saint and yes, of course, we're all still wondering why she did what she did.As for Komurasaki, I've seen comments saying that this is proof that she's really a good person. Let me just say, Oda writes so many multi-layered characters for things to be that simple. It could turn out that she has never really slept with anyone and her motives might not be so black and white. Why would she go to such lengths to swindle men out of their money? Why is she involved with Orochi?
Breh, I'm 24 and even I sometimes have difficulties keeping up with Obe Peace.
Stfu Sanjo. I know what you're gonna say so🖕🏽
🤫🚶🏾♂️Breh, I'm 24 and even I sometimes have difficulties keeping up with Obe Peace.
Stfu Sanjo. I know what you're gonna say so🖕🏽
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I sometimes assume that more successful, established mangaka like Oda and Togashi might get a little more leeway in Jump.as this manga is aimed at young readers, surely for Oda it is difficult to talk about this kind of topics. I will not have a point of view let's say a little innocent, when talking about issues like sex or why she swindled people, etc... so to me she's not a saint and yes, of course, we're all still wondering why she did what she did.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I sometimes assume that more successful, established mangaka like Oda and Togashi might get a little more leeway in Jump.
While Kyoshiro is interesting and all, I dunno why people think he wants to usurp the Shogun. Or more accurately, that he could randomly kill him, take his place, and that'd be that.
good lord not another one
You get more leeway but there are certain things you can't get away with
Look, I think it's pretty obvious that the most likely candidate to be Hiyori is, Komurasaki. All of us are in agreement with that. However, a good portion of us think it's just way too obvious. Oda isn't even trying to hide it. From the age that was spelled out by Momo. To the fact that she's the daughter of a samurai. All of it points to Komurasaki.1. Considering she was injured and nearly captured by Kaido I think Kiku would tell Momonosuke and Kinemon if Hiyori was safe and around she wouldn't keep this information.
2. Momo would also recognize his sister blood relations thing he saw Tama and he knew she wasn't his sister.
3. Again if Momo doesn't recognize or see anything of his sister in Tama then the retainers wouldn't either
4. Because she is a follower of the clan just like Tenguyama, she learned about the shit through him
5. So? Tama is like Luffy and see sees Momo as a kid why address him as Lord, hell Mom tries to get her to but when she doesn't get it he drops it.
6. Who doesn't seem like it considering he would have reacted to Inurashi or the minks returning Tama knowing it be time along with seeing Momo since Tama is with him but nothing.
7. So what everyone assumed Hiyori was Tama for a bit before Komurasaki came in....
8. We saw nothing of that dynamic so who cares? Hell having this age gap and the two growing up and seeing different sides of Wano could be interesting. Hell imagine if Komurasaki feels abandoned by the others.
9. It makes no sense to send them so many years into the future yet only send one group into the future just to meet Ace..... Hell she may not have had the strength or had separate plans for Hiyori considering she was younger then Momo was.
10. So are we gonna be seeing Marco in Wano?
Its dumb at this point to think its Tama, its not Tama.
This is confusing to me too. I also found it interesting that Komurasaki is from the same area as Kyoushiro and that Kyoushiro was implied to have raised her. Those 9 people are certainly 9 connected to Oden's side. We know that 1 retainer stayed with Hiyori. If it's Komurasaki as Hiyori, she must have one of the 9 scabbards as a guardian and the person that fits that description the most is Kyoushiro as of now. Then there is Hitetsu.So with Orochi commenting on the Scabbards' strength, as well as the fact that Kinemon is their leader, it's clear that Momo and Hiyori aren't a part of that group. So the Scabbards seems to be:
- Kinemon
- Raizo
- Kanjuro
- Shutenmaru (Ashura Doji)
- Denjiro (Witching Hour Boy?)
- Kawamatsu (Kamazou the Manslayer?)
- Nekomamushi
- Inuarashi
- Kiku
It's left to be seen if the mystery retainer seen in 920 is Denjiro, Kawamatsu, or someone else entirely.
Same with learning who exactly Hitetsu is waiting for, though at the very least it seems that Hitetsu is not one of the Scabbards.
Hiyori is Komurasaki. What's wrong with obvious? We're here to fight Kaido not be on the edge of our seats on who Hiyori really is.
If Komurasaki is not Hiyori, that might be the dumbest "twist" I've ever seen.
I also found it interesting that Komurasaki is from the same area as Kyoushiro and that Kyoushiro was implied to have raised her.
If it's Komurasaki as Hiyori, she must have one of the 9 scabbards as a guardian and the person that fits that description the most is Kyoushiro as of now.
Yeah I don't think it is him either. I'm just speculating who fits that description the most at this point in time, provided that Hiyori is in fact Komurasaki. For example, if it's Tama, the character that fits the most as the guardian is Hitetsu. The other wild card is Grandpa Hyo. Or it could be the other strongest samurai. The only thing we know is that it's not Kiku, Kinemon, Raizo, Kanjuro, Inuarashi, and Nekomamushi.Frankly, I never really got why people suspect that he's a former retainer, especially after this chapter. If he used to be one of Oden's retainers, none of his dialogue hints at it. And the idea that Orochi's paranoid ass would allow him to work for him (in such a high position), or worse, be completely unaware that he used to be a retainer, seems very unrealistic. Even one of the background characters acknowledged that they all died, essentially meaning they don't know where any of the retainers are. This setting would even be the perfect opportunity to reveal that Kyoshiro used to be one of them, yet nothing like that occurred.
Sanji kicks page one into the building defeated grabs orobi and and komu and stealth blacks outOh look, a cool moment involving 2 one piece women. Which men will save them?
Or we'll finally get some cool Robin action?
lolOh look, a cool moment involving 2 one piece women. Which men will save them?
Or we'll finally get some cool Robin action?
I think it's because he seems to be a bit ambitious, but yes, you're right Kyoshiro can't simply remove Orochi from that position unless he has Kaido's Consent and at the moment there's nothing to indicate such a thing.While Kyoshiro is interesting and all, I dunno why people think he wants to usurp the Shogun. Or more accurately, that he could randomly kill him, take his place, and that'd be that.
I was thinking about this, for a moment I thought he was referring to Zoro or Law, but when he says he is waiting for someone I wonder if there is already an agreement with that person to meet or is it like a prophecy? because if it is the first option I do not think it applies to Zoro and Law, at the same time I find it very strange that there is a prophecy or something like that. Maybe it's like "King Arthur and the Excalibur" but with cursed Katanas.Same with learning who exactly Hitetsu is waiting for, though at the very least it seems that Hitetsu is not one of the Scabbards.