If animations were the issue, they should've been scaled back in favor of inclusion, not the other way around.
and if animations are the only issue, I don't see why they can't patch them in down the line.
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Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles
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If animations were the issue, they should've been scaled back in favor of inclusion, not the other way around.
and if animations are the only issue, I don't see why they can't patch them in down the line.
What kills me is that they KNEW IN ADVANCE that this was going to happen, and yet they sat around and did fuck all to prevent it.
This whole situation is pathetic and reeks of incompetence. Gamefreak just doesn't give a fuck about their fanbase anymore, and its depressing to see how obvious it is.
This whole situation is pathetic and reeks of incompetence. Gamefreak just doesn't give a fuck about their fanbase anymore, and its depressing to see how obvious it is.
fair enough, didn't hear about him making that statement recently
i've thought about this for a bit and in the end i am not too bothered by their decision to do this so naturally i am not as upset about it as others in here
i do get the backlash though and i don't think it's a good decision for them to make
it would feel a lot less scummy if they didn't just announce Home, didn't just talk about how they understand and truly care about everyone's legacy Pokemon, didn't just have an entire Direct to talk about the game...and then just vaguely drop this shit after-the-fact in a random non-announcement video discussion
Two things:
1/ I may be simplifying, but you're doing the opposite: there are no different animations for Max moves as far as I can tell, and the textures are the same.
2/ Still, it's less work than doing 200 Pokemon Refresh animations.
GF: What's a Blastoise?
(I'm kidding, Blastoise has a Mega, it will be in.)
Most of my top faves have already been confirmed either officially or by leak. Just missing Articuno and Volcarona at this point.... Both of which I could easily see being cut. :( Breloom possibly not making it either... Hmm...
They really should not have strung us along like this if they knew they wouldn't be able to support them all forever.
I'm not too upset on a personal level because I mostly used Pokebank as a cutesy way of circumventing regional dexes to feel special on subsequent playthroughs. But for those who used it as intended, I feel for, and they're why I'm upset and think it's pretty unacceptable what's been done here in stringing us along.
They really should not have strung us along like this if they knew they wouldn't be able to support them all forever.
I'm not too upset on a personal level because I mostly used Pokebank as a cutesy way of circumventing regional dexes to feel special on subsequent playthroughs. But for those who used it as intended, I feel for, and they're why I'm upset and think it's pretty unacceptable what's been done here in stringing us along.
They don't want to
The desire to carry all pokemon indefinitely isn't there in plain language
Now its just a matter of standing their ground or caving in to fan demand
You'll get 70 and 10 of them will be Legendaries.
Have fun with Kanto Pokemon being the largest part of the dex!
1. Why waste millions of dollars in manual labor doing running, walking and attacking animations for all 800+ Pokemon ON TOP of Pokemon Amie animations AND revamped voices for all Gameboy to DS era Pokemon for the SOLE PURPOSE of having it be easy lane for the HD console installment...only to discard 54% of them anyway.
2. You discard all of that work and the 'amazing' improvements in animation are still jokes. We should not be gushing over our player avatars finally having basic emoting for social situations. The Pokemon that made the cut re use ALL of the animation assets made 7 years ago. They dont even fucking run up to the opponent like in the Game Cube games.
Many NPCs still just platform table rotate. Come on. Indie anime games do better than this. Especially when so much of your assets are literally future proofed and reused.
So if it doesn't happen down the line will we then agree that this excuse isn't genuine?
Its bigger than that
They just don't want to drag the roster into the next generation of games. Its a philosophical change in development priorities not just a technical hurdle
Read the language in the article
They have a new generation of developers wanting to push into new territory
Don't forget charging people for a subscription on what is now a glorified trophy case.
lol right?
The pokemon home thing is baffling
Is this just meant to be a bridge to multiple side games as well as the mainline?
Maybe you can bring your favorites to pokemon GO 2!
So then what would be the rationale for not putting them in down the line if we agree that it's simply about the work required to animate and it's clearly extremely important to the fans?
They just want to force people to buy every game to make sure they can still play with everyone.
Game Freak doesn't fucking care about its fanbase and are just looking for more ways to squeeze us for money.
Game Freak doesn't fucking care about its fanbase and are just looking for more ways to squeeze us for money.
it would be nice if they could confirm the number of pokemon in the galar dex just so we could have *some* idea of the amount being cut
It's absurd. Like you stand back and look at these decisions that are being made and wonder how any of this is real.
I realize you are being optimistic but its hard to gloss over the language on that article
Its very much them saying they want to focus on the future. One that isn't dragging the past with it as an anchor
Trust me I didn't think Game Freak was capable either but they must be finally looking over their shoulders at all the other japanese devs passing them by
Read between the lines from the language of that article man.
Also worth saying that the comparison to other franchises isn't even good because they never cared enough about keeping their bestiaries consistent and not a mess. There's a reason they're vastly more unpopular than Pokémon.
They also don't have a studio just for making animations like Creatures.
I feel this thread is too quick for me to catch up. Can someone put up a timeline or bullet-point lists of the current events thus far, and to see if later down the road, we hear back from the developers and/or the community?
Bruh lol. well I'm glad they veil around them seems to have finally been lifted and are actually getting criticism from the majority of their fan base for their crazy ass decisions. I couldn't believe it when they made an easy mode that you had to beat the game to unlock lol.
I don't know why you keep replying to me telling me it's their choice. I know, I'm on your side, I agree. I'm asking these questions to point out how ridiculous the excuse is when it's clearly a design choice lol
This especially hurts if you're into more obscure mon. Like I am never going to see my precious tynamo in these
This would hurt even less if the models looked good, which they don't, or even did the bare minimum and changed the battle effects, which they didn't
This would hurt even less if the models looked good, which they don't, or even did the bare minimum and changed the battle effects, which they didn't
We agree in this im sure
Though the language in that article is definitely more blunt! At least some of it is
The real reason is likely Gamefreak understands:
a.) new Pokémon
b.) a new battling gimmick
...are essential for an otherwise identically functioning game with each installment.
They're updating their formula so frequent instalments are sustainable for decades
a.) new Pokémon
b.) a new battling gimmick
...are essential for an otherwise identically functioning game with each installment.
They're updating their formula so frequent instalments are sustainable for decades
As someone who added 35 Pokemon to Gen 1 recently and had to re-balance everything around the new ones (and never got to properly finish due to time constraints) I accept it. Adding one Pokemon to an environment of 800+ characters usually doesn't upset things too much, but adding 20? 80? Some serious balancing issues can pop up and of course for some to even stand out they need to be stronger than previous generations (leading to the power creep seen with the Tapus and UBs). We've already seen some issues like Gale Wings that seem super obvious in practice and were retooled in the next generation because it ended up way stronger than it seemed on paper.
Hopefully this results in some long-needed balance changes and, taking into consideration Morimoto's quote the other day about Moody being changed, I think it's happening.
It's the only thing that truly amazes me.
Why the hell did they do all these walking and running animations for??
Another thing is that they future proofed the models... but will not use them in the future.... AND destroyed the framerate in double battles on the 3DS by doing so for no reason at all.
They should have just went full BOTW
Super far in the future, Post apocalypse. Pokemon and environment reclaimed the world. All new mons. Old favorites as fossils Boom
Yes, but you can pay Game Freak to store them in Pokemon Home and then never be able to use them! Aren't they just so thoughtful?
The thing is, you can remove them from competitive play without removing them from the game entirely. We already do this.
I'd at least like some kind of promise that they'll keep an eye on the excluded Pokemon and ensure all of them get cycled back in once in a while. Instead they only talk about popularity. Frankly that's not what I want to hear when you're going to start excluding Pokemon due to volume. What's the point of Pokemon Home if many of them might stay forgotten forever? Might as well not bother with the service.
And really, the models are very similar to the ones from the 3DS days, as are the animations we've been shown so far. If you're going to make this kind of move you do it when you're able to wow everyone with the huge jump in quality you've accomplished. Not this.
And really, the models are very similar to the ones from the 3DS days, as are the animations we've been shown so far. If you're going to make this kind of move you do it when you're able to wow everyone with the huge jump in quality you've accomplished. Not this.
Why couldn't they include Pokemon with their old animations for the time being and update them over time for the new game in gen 8 or patch, and I'm sure they have alot of animations already made for those Pokemon in gen 6&7 that would be sufficient.
This is absurd to cut them all altogether.
This is absurd to cut them all altogether.
It's downright mind boggling that Gamefreak is being so openly shitty and disrespectful to their fans, and they act like we're just supposed to be okay with that. The worse thing is that it feels like no amount of outrage will change anything since its fucking Pokemon and will sell bucketloads anyway.
Oh, and competitive is straight up fucked too, so that's fun.
Oh, and competitive is straight up fucked too, so that's fun.
Because they no longer care about connectivity within a single generation, they want to force everyone to buy every game to continue to be able to play within a specific generation and they want people to be forced to pay for Pokemon Home indefinitely and not just when new gens come out.
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