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Only Pokémon in Galar Pokédex can be transferred to Sword & Shield from Pokémon Home; similar restrictions intended for subsequent titles

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TimeFire said:
Galar Trainers aren't too smart if the champion's ace is a Charizard. Stealth rocks already puts him at half health, just throw a stone at him and he's down.
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I'll forgive them everything about Home interaction if they just fucking make the damage from stealth rock untyped and only affect pokemon immune to spikes

Maple said:
Does it really? The Wild Area is looks like it's mostly sporting textures from the Nintendo 64.
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Not only do N64 games not look half that detailed they also tended to run at pretty low framerates, not to mention that part of the issue is YT's compression because that is certainly a livestream screencap
 
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Just read the USGamer interview. Falling back on "balance" as the primary motivating factor for cutting Pokemon is bunk as hell. The game has been effectively balanced through bans for ages now. It's also just straight-up weird to say that you want all Pokemon to "have a chance" because, logically, that ain't how animals work. A Charizard is always going to mop a Butterfree. It's extremely disingenuous and it makes this situation all the more frustrating.
 

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there are hundreds of responses to every Pokémon tweet and they're all just about this. I love it.
Psychonaut said:
Just read the USGamer interview. Falling back on "balance" as the primary motivating factor for cutting Pokemon is bunk as hell. The game has been effectively balanced through bans for ages now. It's also just straight-up weird to say that you want all Pokemon to "have a chance" because, logically, that ain't how animals work. A Charizard is always going to mop a Butterfree. It's extremely disingenuous and it makes this situation all the more frustrating.
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also, there's no way it'll be balanced. they never ever have been, even with just 151
 
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Psychonaut said:
Just read the USGamer interview. Falling back on "balance" as the primary motivating factor for cutting Pokemon is bunk as hell. The game has been effectively balanced through bans for ages now. It's also just straight-up weird to say that you want all Pokemon to "have a chance" because, logically, that ain't how animals work. A Charizard is always going to mop a Butterfree. It's extremely disingenuous and it makes this situation all the more frustrating.
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That's Game Freak for ya. Remember when they removed the Battle Frontier from ORAS because they said it was too hard and people don't like hard content anymore? Or when they removed following Pokémon, or the Hard mode from BW2. They've been an extremely frustrating company to be a fan of.
 
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Balance is the shittiest excuse. Worse than fucking animations. In the same gen they nerfed TalonFlame and Thunderwave they introduced broken Z-moves, and Ultra Necrozma. Laughable. All the excuses they are saying to defend themselves are shit that they've fallen flat on their face on for 6 years.
 
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Yeah, I just found this clip. The animation on those wingull is really something. I feel completely comforted knowing we had to sacrifice the national dex for this step up in quality.

 
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The dislikes on the treehouse video was about even 18ish hours ago. Now it's doubled.
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"This is the game for CORE fans"

"Sorry dudes we cut 400 of them fuckers."
 
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ExoExplorer said:
Yeah, I just found this clip. The animation on those wingull is really something. I feel completely comforted knowing we had to sacrifice the national dex for this step up in quality.

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Damn that Pokemon variety is amazing. /s

There probably exists over 900 creatures but here's like 6 Wingull on the screen.

Overworld animation is sorely disappointing, just like the gym footage, and Scorbunny's attack animation.
 
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Yo what they decided this because of balance???? I was under the impression it was like animation work or something. Fucking balance? Guarantee the Galar dex won't be balanced. The shit?
 
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Man, I feel so vindicated for saying Let's Go would have a negative effect on the series, especially when it was the first one to start the trend of arbitrarily cutting Pokemon by eliminating anything non-Gen I related. And most of you shit on me for saying that.

Imagine if Game Freak put that time and effort wasted on Let's Go, towards Sword and Shield instead of having 2 separate sets of games in 2 years.
 
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Well... Atleast charizard is available.

Is this the first mainline game without all the pokemon programmed in?
even R/S had all of them so that trading to the eventual FR/LG would allow you to get the missing pokemon.

So is there no national dex whatsoever?
 
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Big One said:
I know this may be radical but I do think some intervention is need here. The Pokemon Company needs these to be mandated:

1. All Pokemon can be transferable Day 1.
2. Mega Evolutions, Alola forms, Z-Moves all must be transferable as well and return.

Gamefreak likes to argue "balance" issues when in reality the metagames they design only support a handful of Pokemon.
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THIS

nothing else is acceptable, if they wanted us to keep buying these games and using these gimmicks then they should support them moving forward.
 
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What gets me about the balance excuse is that even if they're afraid that some Pokemon are too overpowered, such as Lando-T or the Tapus, there's no real solution in play to tone them down - they'll just get pulled from the games until further notice, and they'll be added back either when overall power creep finally catches up to them or their original game gets remade. Gen VIII might be safe from Lando-T's reign of terror, but if Gen IX or Gen X brings him back with BW remakes, all Game Freak's done is kick the can years down the road. In the mean time, no one will be able to use Landorus at all, and people who liked the Pokemon in either form get punished for Game Freak's unwillingness to rebalance its stats.
 
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I feel like the best case scenario at this point is for Gamefreak to speak up and promise that the non-Galar Pokemon will be prepped for HD at a later date (probably for next year's game sigh) and they'll be added to Sword and Shield eventually.

Is this how it SHOULD be? Hell no, but its fucking Gamefreak we're talking about here and we can't even expect the bare minimum from them anymore.
 
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Raonak said:
Well... Atleast charizard is available.

Is this the first mainline game without all the pokemon programmed in?
even R/S had all of them so that trading to the eventual FR/LG would allow you to get the missing pokemon.

So is there no national dex whatsoever?
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National dex hasnt been a thing since Sun/Moon
 
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RochHoch said:
I feel like the best case scenario at this point is for Gamefreak to speak up and promise that the non-Galar Pokemon will be prepped for HD at a later date (probably for next year's game sigh) and they'll be added to Sword and Shield eventually.

Is this how it SHOULD be? Hell no, but its fucking Gamefreak we're talking about here and we can't even expect the bare minimum from them anymore.
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They won't do updates. They'll want people to pay 60 bucks again for the real Sword and Shield games that's coming later with all the pokemon available.
 
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RochHoch said:
I feel like the best case scenario at this point is for Gamefreak to speak up and promise that the non-Galar Pokemon will be prepped for HD at a later date (probably for next year's game sigh) and they'll be added to Sword and Shield eventually.

Is this how it SHOULD be? Hell no, but its fucking Gamefreak we're talking about here and we can't even expect the bare minimum from them anymore.
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The thing is, most devs have resigned themselves to post-launch patches. Everybody does it. But Gamefreak's "no patch" policy is directly conflicting with the scope issues they've gained in the HD era. It's like they're using 2006 logic in 2019.
 
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I feel like the Wingull animation is probably it being an early build---the one they used for the gameplay demonstration at Treehouse, where that is from, looked rougher than what we saw in the Direct last week, which is probably from a newer build.
 
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Ik everyone is hating on this but like it had to happen eventually? They can't just keep adding Pokémon without having to remove some eventually. 1000+ Pokémon is not sustainable
 
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Cromat said:
I fully expect all of the Gen 1 pokemon to make the cut, as well as their cross-gen evolutions. Given that the main argument for this change is the work involved with the 3D models and animations, any pokemon that was in Let's Go would supposedly have less work involved with it, plus they wouldn't want to antagonize Switch owners that got into Pokemon with Let's Go.

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This also makes sense given the rumored Farfetch'd evo.
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I think thats why Farfetch'd was looked at , they had to balance a ton of mons they were limited to so they pretty much were forced to look at old mons and rework them.
 

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Birdie said:
I feel like the Wingull animation is probably it being an early build---the one they used for the gameplay demonstration at Treehouse, where that is from, looked rougher than what we saw in the Direct last week, which is probably from a newer build.
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I doubt it. that's how it's moved since x and y
 
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