No Cyndaquil? No Jigglypuff? No Abra? Looking at that list, I'm really close to cancelling my preorder.
400......
I think I'm done with Pokémon. All of my favorites except for the Eevee line are cut. Like.... Seriously?!
The Gameboy Advance games, almost 2 decades ago had 386. And we are on better hardware, 2 decades of experience, and reusable models. And then the best they can do.. Is 400? I would really, much rather play the older games than this. I was really on the fence about Pokémon. I wanted to give it a huge chance.....
But man. I can't go on like this anymore.
I'm guessing Sinnoh will at least fill in all the gaps below 493, but yeah missing gen 5+ pokemon are doomed until at least gen 9.PIKACHU BIG
If we are missing 500ish Pokemon, I really don't see the Sinnoh remakes adding the rest in. Typically within a gen you are able to capture all the Pokemon without crossgen transfers, but I am highly doubting that will be the result by the time Gen VIII wraps up.
Nah it'll probably just be something likeAll of the starters (sans Charmander) and legendaries missing makes it obvious that they'll patch in more Pokemon later or release them as event Pokemon, though. There's no chance they are just going to abandon all of the starters, they are just too popular for that.
Meltan is probably still there. we don't have a data mine yet.No Meltan!? What the fuck was the point then?
I don't know wheter to laugh or cry. PoGo has more pokémon than the mainline entry...
It is not the responsibility of consumers of media to be concerned for the factors of its creation. If it is disappointing to them for any reason, they are entitled to that. Nobody has to come to the defense of GameFreak, they're a big company working on one of the biggest IP in the world. They will be just fine.
The Thanos stuff is very clearly tongue in cheek and if you're incapable of reading the tone of that, then I don't know what merit there is in any continued conversation. Actual perspective in a thread that's not taking itself that seriously is completely unnecessary.
The thread is framed this way because it is a discussion about the disappointment of the cuts. Not about the reality of game development.
Nah it'll probably just be something like
SwSh: Charmander line exclusive
Next game: Squirtle line exclusive
Third game: Bulbasaur line exclusive
"Your favorite pokemon that's been missing is back!" will be part of the marketing of each new game moving forward. This was a pretty obvious conclusion when they talked about how this was the new policy moving forward.
Gen 1: 54
Gen 2: 34
Gen 3: 42
Gen 4: 38
Gen 5: 85
Gen 6: 32
Gen 7: 36
Well at least this should quiet done the Gen 8 is nothing but a Gen 1 fest.
This doesn't work cause there are more 5th gen than anything else.
FINALLYGen 1: 54
Gen 2: 34
Gen 3: 42
Gen 4: 38
Gen 5: 85
Gen 6: 32
Gen 7: 36
Well at least this should quiet done the Gen 8 is nothing but a Gen 1 fest.
How many of those other features aren't superfluous and nonessential to the core experience? How many aren't badly designed and/or poorly implemented time sinks that are more trouble than they're worth? The Pokemon fandom has a tendency to cling to things because they exist, not because they're worth keeping or legitimately satisfying parts of the experience.
And even then, no one has ever come up with a valid explanation of how to handle the very significant development concerns that come with implementing the National Dex. Just parroting the idea that it should be easy, or making assumptions and bad faith readings of statements of GF's statements. It's not even a matter of time, because extended development cycles don't necessarily mean there's room to add more content. It's all just been fans playing armchair developer and putting speculation forward like it's fact, to treat GF like a bunch of incompetent villains - even when other game developers have said what GF has said makes sense. This whole thread is a bad-faith argument, meant to invoke negative emotions and anger towards Game Freak, literally comparing them to a freaking comic book supervillain.
It's embarassing. Why can't you people just say "Which Pokemon that got cut are you going to miss"? Why do we need these extremes? Why does the discourse need to be framed this way? No one's saying you can't be disappointed. No one's saying you can't consider this a dealbreaker. But some actual perspective would be nice.
People have done this constantly, with the most common suggestion being give 300-400 Pokemon a make-over each game and reuse old assets for the rest. Atlus does it with MegaTen demons and Gran Turismo does it with cars, it's not exactly a ground-breaking idea.
Word. GF needs to get over the Charizard pandering.
FINALLY
THE UNOVA PANDERING I ASKED FOR
BASED JAMES TURNER DELIVERS AGAIN
93 including galariansBtw, has it been confirmed that there are only 80 new Pokemon?
That's pretty lame.
Totally irrelevant to what I suggested.How many MegaTen demons are there typically in a given game and how involved are they in things like environments and animation-wise?
Totally irrelevant to what I suggested.
They're already making 400 new Pokemon assets for each game anyway, we're just asking them to also shove the old ones in.
That's what hurts the most, because they do this stupid ass restart every game all of the stuff we end up liking here in shield and sword will be gone next gen, maybe Dynamax is cool but it'll just be in the garbage in a year.Game freak continues to ruin this series. Look at the bright side, at least all the missing Pokemon died so that they could cram the pointless dynamx models that will undoubtedly be removed next games.
He didn't bring back Volcarona, Stoutland, Zoroark, and Liligant though. Failed Lucario I can understand, but the others didn't deserve this.FINALLY
THE UNOVA PANDERING I ASKED FOR
BASED JAMES TURNER DELIVERS AGAIN
Man I FUCKING hate Kanto so much man. Charizard as the only old starter? Suck shit.
There are 1,197 cars in Gran Turismo 6, yesIt's not really irrelevant at all. At least just tell me if there are there nearly 1000 of them like there are Pokemon?
It'll exist in the gen 4 remakes and then return to extinction.
I'll just say that I get where you're coming from, because I've found myself in a similar position before... but conflating a group of bad actors with the people in this thread playing along with memes about disappointment is not going to win any support.It's hard to feel like it's tongue in cheek when people on this forum has defended harassing Game Freak members on social media on their personal accounts, relating to posts that have nothing to do with Pokemon such as congratulations on a marriage or warnings about a tropical storm, devalued any counterarguments as coming from shills, and repeatedly stretched the truth, lied, or misrepresented the facts on top of rejecting the words of experienced game developers (and yes, I know, that hasn't been universally on GF's side, the point is the hubris and acting like these words mean nothing). You can't get the benefit of a doubt when this has been so mired in poor behavior... and yes, I say that as someone who acknowledges that this brought out the worst in me too.
It's not your responsibility to do anything as a consumer, no. That's why I said that people can be disappointed, or consider this a dealbreaker. But when it becomes part of the ongoing discussion, everyone involved has a responsibility to threat it seriously and to consider all the angles. I let this overwhelm me and it brought out the worst in me, and I apologize for that, but it feels like anything goes as long as you're mad at Game Freak.
Yo shuckle the real mvp
I'll just say that I get where you're coming from, because I've found myself in a similar position before... but conflating a group of bad actors with the people in this thread playing along with memes about disappointment is not going to win any support.