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[OPEN SPOILER] Now that the entire Sword/Shield Pokédex leaked, let's mourn the Pokémon that got Thanos-snapped by Game Freak [SEE STAFF POST]
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The regular sized Pokemon are pretty much indiscernible in that Dynamax screenshot posted on this page. So we can officially retire this weak ass excuse.
That's their reasoning. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean we can "retire" it, so let's end that narrative. We don't decide the reason behind things, they do.
It's not that I don't agree with it, it's that their "reasoning" is demonstrably bullshit.
They also cut about 64% of gen 1, insanely stupid if they claim they want to bridge the Go and Let's Go audience into the mainline games.
I've seen this thread title repeatedly over the last little while. I had been thinking to myself, "Thanos-snapped sounds awfully dramatic, posters on this forum can really go overboard sometimes!" Then I saw the chart. Holy shit, it really is Thanos-level, right down to bulbasaur and squirtle.
Even Thanos only snapped 50%, so if anything it's not dramatic enough.
They already had animations for all 151 orginals from Lets Go. So why did they need to cut any of them?
Apparently a different team, but that wont excuse the fact that, they should be patched in almost instantly/whenever pokemon home transfers become a thing.
More like Byeleaf, right?
Noticed this in my feed this morning. Poor girl will be in for a rude awakening lol.
Joe I don't agree with all the hate you've been getting but when something is so obviously wrong I wish you wouldn't still back up gamefreak. It's not about "not agreeing" it's about their own reasoning being contradicted by the game itself which means that it's complete BS.
Even if they said this, using that statement to explain inconsistent scaling seems like a reach. The portable screens of both the Switch tablet and the Switch lite are 720p and larger than the 3DS screens, and they were able to express larger Pokemon like Zygarde on the 3DS screen:
They're already able to contrast tall and small Pokemon in Sword and Shield like with Galarian Weezing and Rotom on the previous page.
Wailord is the persistent example of more expressive scale not working, but I'm sure there would be a way to work around it than just preserving the scale it had before, or just cutting that Pokemon. Alternatively, keep Wailord the same but size up Tyranitar, Duraldon, Snorlax, etc.
Like with following or riding Pokemon, just because there's outliers that may prevent the feature from working to perfection (yeah - Tyranitar wouldn't be able to fit in buildings or entrances if it followed the player, but they solved that in HGSS and Let's Go by having it enter and exit the Pokeball) doesn't mean I agree that it shouldn't exist. It's an aspect of the presentation that is worth bringing up because the hardware can handle it, they've already done it for certain Pokemon, and they have a smaller roster to finetune it.
I think it's less about resolution and more about the screen size.Even if they said this, using that statement to explain inconsistent scaling seems like a reach. The portable screens of both the Switch tablet and the Switch lite are 720p and larger than the 3DS screens, and they were able to express larger Pokemon like Zygarde on the 3DS screen:
They're already able to contrast tall and small Pokemon in Sword and Shield like with Galarian Weezing and Rotom on the previous page.
Wailord is the persistent example of more expressive scale not working, but I'm sure there would be a way to work around it than just preserving the scale it had before, or just cutting that Pokemon. Alternatively, keep Wailord the same but size up Tyranitar, Duraldon, Snorlax, etc.
Like with following or riding Pokemon, just because there's outliers that may prevent the feature from working to perfection (yeah - Tyranitar wouldn't be able to fit in buildings or entrances if it followed the player, but they solved that in HGSS and Let's Go by having it enter and exit the Pokeball) doesn't mean I agree that it shouldn't exist. It's an aspect of the presentation that is worth bringing up because the hardware can handle it, they've already done it for certain Pokemon, and they have a smaller roster to finetune it.
But I agree, I don't think they need to do it. They should sort it out
They aren't even taking notes, just drawing Pikachu over and over again
Noticed this in my feed this morning. Poor girl will be in for a rude awakening lol.
Oh...Umm... Not good...
So you can play a game with 340 some new (to you) pokemon?
I mean to me it's clear the anime is aiming for the Go audience quite a bit this time so I feel like for a majority of folks the anime will be "here's all your favorite Pokemon from Go, and here's some new ones you can see in Galar!"
I just think with Pokemon Go such a big part of the franchise for many casual fans Sword and Shield will be more "here's Pokemon not yet in Pokemon Go! rather than "look at your Pokemon Go Pokemon who aren't here".
As someone who doesn't care about Go I don't agree with that but I think it's a bit too sheltered to not realize the franchise has grown that a PokeDex cut is less important to the bulk of the audience who primarily digest the series through Go.
I just think with Pokemon Go such a big part of the franchise for many casual fans Sword and Shield will be more "here's Pokemon not yet in Pokemon Go! rather than "look at your Pokemon Go Pokemon who aren't here".
As someone who doesn't care about Go I don't agree with that but I think it's a bit too sheltered to not realize the franchise has grown that a PokeDex cut is less important to the bulk of the audience who primarily digest the series through Go.
If he hasn't played a game since the OG Game Boy, then there's nothing for him to even import that isn't catchable in-game.
Man imagine kids seeing this in Japan and looking forward to finding these Pokemon on a brand new mainline game for their Switch and then finding out you can't even access them. Especially when a lot of these are in the top 100 of popularity polls there.
Welp lol
If that's goal than the 3DS games easily outclass this one both in having more new Pokemon and allowing them to find their old favorites. X&Y in particular let you catch nearly 600 without trading.
Money.
How else are they gonna force you to sub to Home?
They don't give a fuck about the fans anymore.
Welp lol
Look at all that brand synergy that made it impossible to delay the game lol
The most fun me and my friends had with Ruby and Sapphire was getting a game shark and adding all of our favorites that got cut.
Makes sense, new tech and graphical requirements, and also a short turn around time since it's yearly iterations. Pokemon needs an extra year per game to make more meaningful strides without having to only see slight year over year iteration. But there isn't any reason for the dev/publisher when they can release these for low cost yearly and sell CoD numbers. We'll probably see minimal improvement next year, but a whole lot more Pokemon included.
That doesn't change that their reasoning is completely invalid. I could say I'm not going to buy Pokemon Sw/Sh because it doesn't have Pikachu in it. Sure, that's my reason - doesn't make it true or accurate.
Brutal. You hate to see it.
Welp lol
Gotta love how it's now becoming 'Well 400 is a lot of Pokemon, you're being so unreasonable for wanting more."
.....When games from 12 years ago had more Pokemon in its regional dex. And if we're going to pull the whole, 'making 3D Pokemon models is hard' thing, well the generation that would have had the most difficult time with it, Gen 6, with that being when they created all of the current 3D models of the older Pokemon... still has a regional dex in X an Y that remains the largest we ever got while still maintaining compatibility for the Pokemon who are not actually in the regional dex.
And they're slapping an extra 20 bucks on top of it for these games with a massively gimped Pokemon roster, so don't act like its unreasonable for being annoyed about all of this.
Edit: And here's a different visualization of just how drastic the cuts are:
.....When games from 12 years ago had more Pokemon in its regional dex. And if we're going to pull the whole, 'making 3D Pokemon models is hard' thing, well the generation that would have had the most difficult time with it, Gen 6, with that being when they created all of the current 3D models of the older Pokemon... still has a regional dex in X an Y that remains the largest we ever got while still maintaining compatibility for the Pokemon who are not actually in the regional dex.
And they're slapping an extra 20 bucks on top of it for these games with a massively gimped Pokemon roster, so don't act like its unreasonable for being annoyed about all of this.
Edit: And here's a different visualization of just how drastic the cuts are:
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It is really quite odd.
The datamine is going to be interesting but I have zero doubt that will stop people from defending Gamefreak
Noticed this in my feed this morning. Poor girl will be in for a rude awakening lol.
Masuda responded with "Thanks".
Welp lol
Makes me wonder why they didn't just set the anime in Galar.
I'm confused about this, too. I think it's just 400, the 600-something number was just made up.
I mean, the games look to be the best games in the franchise to date in terms of non-Pokedex related content and have a TON of much needed QoL improvements. Why would fans who don't care about Dexit suddenly turn on the game after the data mine?
If the game is good and reviews well the datamining of the models won't change anything.
