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[OPEN SPOILERS] GAME OF THRONES S8 |*FULL LEAK DISCUSSION*| IT IS KNOWN

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Considering Jon's history for failing upwards, they'll start by taking Castle Black and other uncontested castles and before you know it Jon will have accidentally conquered enough of the North to pose a threat to Sansa.

She goes "How dare you betray me, brother?"

Jon has a deadpan expression and goes "...Jesus Christ how did I do this again."
It ends with Jon killing Sansa.

Bran is elected King in the North.

And Jon exiles himself back to the Wall....again.

Jon keeps murdering family members and Bran keeps accruing titles because of Jon.
 
Dec 1, 2017
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It ends with Jon killing Sansa.

Bran is elected King in the North.

And Jon exiles himself back to the Wall....again.

Jon keeps murdering family members and Bran keeps accruing titles because of Jon.
"All Hail Bran Stark, king of Westeros and Essos!"
"Bran how did you--"
"Jon fell in love with their leader, then stopped having sex with them, then killed them, then got sent back to the wall, the usual. I expect to take over the world with my Jon plan."
 
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This is really what should be done.

I’m going to imagine that once the Unsullied leave, Jon and the wildlings go settle the New Gift and the Last Heart region. Sansa gifts the Last Hearth to Jon or Tormund but Jon gets to live there either way.
I mean realistically it's not like the North ever used the Wall, and Jon is officially still the Lord Commander of the Wall. Ed was only ever acting lord commander, he wasn't ever chosen. The Wall is still his, which includes the Gift and the New Gift. Last Hearth would be a good addition for them too, but considering how much shit the Wildlings lived through just having Castle Black to themselves is already going to be a luxury.
 

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I mean realistically it's not like the North ever used the Wall, and Jon is officially still the Lord Commander of the Wall. Ed was only ever acting lord commander, he wasn't ever chosen. The Wall is still his, which includes the Gift and the New Gift. Last Hearth would be a good addition for them too, but considering how much shit the Wildlings lived through just having Castle Black to themselves is already going to be a luxury.
I swear, if they pull a "surprise, the Night's Watch is still around!" "twist" I'm going to throw up.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I swear, if they pull a "surprise, the Night's Watch is still around!" "twist" I'm going to throw up.
The Night Queen "twist" at the very last scene (it has to be the very last scene, they'll think they're being poetic by bookending the show with White Walkers) is even worse because it's a lazy DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUN for something that doesn't mean anything.

Nobody likes the dun dun dun in the last episode, people want closure, this is the exact opposite of closure, it's what bad comic book events do.
 
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"I dunt wahnt it. yOu ArE mY QuEeN sIsTeR fAmILy"
The actual blood magic in game of thrones: the more you say "I don't want it" the more titles are thrown at you.

I swear, if they pull a "surprise, the Night's Watch is still around!" "twist" I'm going to throw up.
Jon gets to castle black expecting literally no one there, a bunch of castle black extras start waving at him. "Oh boy Lord Commander, thank the gods old and new that you're back. We kept your room just the way you left it!"

"B...but how...what?"
 
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So Tyrion is going to get the council to nominate Bran while he is a prisoner of Grey Worm. Bran then makes him Hand of the King.

Then Tyrion decides that Jon should take the black as a compromise, despite Tyrion encouraging him to kill Dany. And Grey Worm is cool with all of this?

What in the 7 Hells is this nonsense?
 
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I still want to know what Varys heard in the flame. I thought maybe it would explained but I guess not..

Anyone remember how they felt after seeing all those mysterious symbols left by the White Walkers? “They were mocking the COF” felt so disappointing.
 
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So Tyrion is going to get the council to nominate Bran while he is a prisoner of Grey Worm. Bran then makes him Hand of the King.

Then Tyrion decides that Jon should take the black as a compromise, despite Tyrion encouraging him to kill Dany. And Grey Worm is cool with all of this?

What in the 7 Hells is this nonsense?
I give up. How d&d will still get jobs after this mess, I will never understand.
 
"All Hail Bran Stark, king of Westeros and Essos!"
"Bran how did you--"
"Jon fell in love with their leader, then stopped having sex with them, then killed them, then got sent back to the wall, the usual. I expect to take over the world with my Jon plan."
Well GRRM did say this after he scrapped the five year timeskip:

GRRM: If a 12 year old has to conquer then world then so be it.
Jon marries the God-Empress of Yi Ti and becomes God-Emperor of Yi-Ti for a day. She trips and falls on his sword which leads to him inheriting the title as she was the last of her line. Jon abdicates the throne out of guilt and Bran inherits the title as Jon’s little brother.

Repeat until Bran becomes Emperor Lelouch:




Bran: “Now God-Emperor Brandon Stark commands you!!! Obey me subjects! Obey me World!!!”

The post-credits scene is King Bran in his sick new armor on the Iron Throne:

 
So Tyrion is going to get the council to nominate Bran while he is a prisoner of Grey Worm. Bran then makes him Hand of the King.

Then Tyrion decides that Jon should take the black as a compromise, despite Tyrion encouraging him to kill Dany. And Grey Worm is cool with all of this?

What in the 7 Hells is this nonsense?
If I was Grey Worm, I’d say this shit is rigged.

I could understand Grey Worm being cool with a council to elect Bran. He doesn’t want to stay in Westeros.

But Tyrion really should’ve joined Jon at the Night’s Watch or been executed.
 
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Well GRRM did say this after he scrapped the five year timeskip:



Jon marries the God-Empress of Yi Ti and becomes God-Emperor of Yi-Ti for a day. She trips and falls on his sword which leads to him inheriting the title as she was the last of her line. Jon abdicates the throne out of guilt and Bran inherits the title as Jon’s little brother.

Repeat until Bran becomes Emperor Lelouch:




Bran: “Now God-Emperor Brandon Stark commands you!!! Obey me subjects! Obey me World!!!”

The post-credits scene is King Bran in his sick new armor on the Iron Throne:

Pictured, Jon every time he accidentally gets a new title:

 

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If I was Grey Worm, I’d say this shit is rigged.

I could understand Grey Worm being cool with a council to elect Bran. He doesn’t want to stay in Westeros.

But Tyrion really should’ve joined Jon at the Night’s Watch or been executed.
Tyrion getting a good ending is the kind of shit that feels so forced and unearned it must've come as some kind of mandatory requirement from Dinklage's agent or something.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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The best part about the night queen theory is that it would already be one hundred times better than the night king merely because we actually know about what she is, and it would still be fucking incredibly stupid.

So Tyrion is going to get the council to nominate Bran while he is a prisoner of Grey Worm. Bran then makes him Hand of the King.

Then Tyrion decides that Jon should take the black as a compromise, despite Tyrion encouraging him to kill Dany. And Grey Worm is cool with all of this?

What in the 7 Hells is this nonsense?
Makes no fucking sense.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't understand why the Night's Watch will still exist. Unless Westeros has no better idea of what to do with people it doesn't feel like killing but are none the less guilty of some crime. "Go sit on the wall, I guess, and watch for... stuff"
 
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Real talk, for an all knowing Tree Bran sure is good at setting up his own version of the Blackfyres. Jon going beyond the north and eventually having a family(yeah he'll brood for a while but we know how it goes for him usually) means that if not him, his descendants might eventually be like "Let's throw down." All it takes is some houses flipping to the Starksnowtargaryenfreefolk or whatever they decide to start calling themselves and yeah.

..."Sequel series: Game of Thrones 2"
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I had to share this post from Free Folk:

So, let me get this straight.
>Jaime dies in a basement under tons of stone and debris, but his golden hand appears at ground level.
>Super human dwarf moves rubble.
>Speech to civilians about freeing the civilians but killed all the civilians (so speech to ghosts)
>Dany sends Tyrion to prison (she burns people though) after this 3rd warning but killed Varys.
>Jon "tricks", yes "tricks" Dany, stabs her with his sword that Grey Worm would have taken.
>Grey Worm, Unsullied and the Dothraki do not instantly kill him, okay.
>Drogon (large dragon) lands inside the Throne Room.
>Drogon (large dragon, son of Dany, can breath fire) does not roast Jon.
>Drogon (large dragon without thumbs or even hands) somehow picks Dany up and manages to keep her from falling even though Jon could barely hang on (with thumbs).
>A council is formed (for some reason) with no goal apparently (because Sam has to suggest things) and they have no idea what their purpose is.
>This same council teleports to Kings Landing moments after battle, without a goal.
>For some reason Sansa, Sam, and Tyrion or even Arya no longer want King Aegon for some reason.
>Sam (best friend of Jon/Aegon) called him "The King of The Seven bloody Kingdons" and "rightful heir" just episodes prior but now wants to vote for a new leader. Sansa also described "someone better"
>Knights Watch, yea, with a K (leak clearly by a show watcher only)
>Nights Watch has no reason to exist, The Wall is even useless as it has a big hole in it.
>Dany's entire army lets Jon leave because Sansa tells them, okay.
>Tyrion is searching for a good Master of Whispers for a King that can see everything.
>Brieanne is the Kingsgaurd, but Podrick is Bran's protector for some reason.
>Jon's entire storyline, including his lineage that Bran and Sam needed to tell him about ASAP played no impact at all in the ending, or any of the story.
>Dothraki and Unsullied want to travel around and free slaves because they are great people of course.
>Bronn is somehow on the "council", along with Sam even though he should run his house.
>No mention of Dorne or new Prince of Dorne even though we have seen Dorne during new intros, implying they will play a part.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/c..._episodes_46/enpgsup/?st=jvq4k2dx&sh=88137240
 
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Real talk, for an all knowing Tree Bran sure is good at setting up his own version of the Blackfyres. Jon going beyond the north and eventually having a family(yeah he'll brood for a while but we know how it goes for him usually) means that if not him, his descendants might eventually be like "Let's throw down." All it takes is some houses flipping to the Starksnowtargaryenfreefolk or whatever they decide to start calling themselves and yeah.

..."Sequel series: Game of Thrones 2"
"Based on the novels GRRM's 18th clone will complete sometime in 2305...
 
Real talk, for an all knowing Tree Bran sure is good at setting up his own version of the Blackfyres. Jon going beyond the north and eventually having a family(yeah he'll brood for a while but we know how it goes for him usually) means that if not him, his descendants might eventually be like "Let's throw down." All it takes is some houses flipping to the Starksnowtargaryenfreefolk or whatever they decide to start calling themselves and yeah.

..."Sequel series: Game of Thrones 2"
That depends on whether Jon gets married since he could just pop out bastards instead and whether he tells his kids about their true heritage which I feel he wouldn't after what it did to his family.
 
According to Elio, GRRM wanted to do a story of an older Arya Stark story set in Braavos or the Free Cities that covers a murder mystery.

Would be interesting seeing the protagonists of ASOAIF in different genres.

Arya: Murder-Mystery

Sansa: Romance Story so we can see who Sansa finally hooks up with.

Jon: A horror story involving vampires out in the North. Without the Others around preying on them, they can come out and attack the free folk

Bran + Tyrion: Comedy about a monotone God-King and his funny right-hand man trying to run a kingdom.
 
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It's really just par for the course at this point. But don't worry I'm sure someone somewhere will dig up an otherwise pointless line that foreshadows Sam calling together the Not-So-Great Council to vote for a King, or Dothraki and Unsullied going on a noble quest to free slaves.
The Dothraki going on a quest to end slavery is the most amazingly hilarious thing I have ever read.
 
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The Night Queen "twist" at the very last scene (it has to be the very last scene, they'll think they're being poetic by bookending the show with White Walkers) is even worse because it's a lazy DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUN for something that doesn't mean anything.

Nobody likes the dun dun dun in the last episode, people want closure, this is the exact opposite of closure, it's what bad comic book events do.
It doesn't really become "A song of ice and fire" if it doesn't end that way. Everyone thought Dany was fire and jon was ice but it's the other way around. If it does happen. it seems like a perfectly conclusive ending to me, there's nothing more to tell in that story.
 
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Sigh, what an ending. And wait, Dany gets stabbed , Drogon fucks off with her body and that’s it...? Nothing more with her?
The leaks on the last episode are a bit shakier, but I believe the big points are probably true. There's no clean way to wrap this up. :(

I'm just hoping for one more surprise that will make things seem a bit more interesting.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Jon is ice and fire. Stark + Targ

Which is even more hilarious that this plays not a single role in any of the end plot points.

Also I read that summary and I fail to see how this isn't viewed as one of the worst finales of all time. Like that shit is BAD
 
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Jon is ice and fire. Stark + Targ

Which is even more hilarious that this plays not a single role in any of the end plot points.

Also I read that summary and I fail to see how this isn't viewed as one of the worst finales of all time. Like that shit is BAD
People already have an out with stuff like that “redo” petition, or “fans” attempting to harass D&D. The talk will shift away from the quality of what we got and instead seek to discredit/ attack the character of the “haters”. I’m seeing it way too much already. Even TLJ discussions had people going back and forth with actual points. This...it’s just gotten so petty and personal already
 
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