Jaime actor talking about his story arc
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[OPEN SPOILERS] GAME OF THRONES S8 |*FULL LEAK DISCUSSION*| IT IS KNOWN
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My overall point is that people are way too bias in how they look at things. We can be hyper critical of any property
I mean can you imagine the reaction if game of thrones tried something like that. Or how people are seemingly ignoring that the Endgame writer just retconned his own movie.
I suspect the Jaime ending will be the same in the books. Just a different journey. Ultimately he doesn't get redemption
Wow, so basically Nicolaj is desperatly fighting against the writers since season 4... "It doesnt make sense" ! No shit.
Aegon being a fair and popular ruler feels like the most natural way of making Daenerys' downfall, she's too kind to burn a city that isnt ruled by filth, but too keen on her "duty" to let a fake targaryen rule, that would completely shatter her dream
Nothing to see here. Just a cherry pick. There is dozen of hours of interviews that refute this right?
nah 1000th lord commander of the night's watch after killing Cersei
Remind me, S4 Jaime only hangs out in KL, right?
EDIT: Oh, the rape scene.
I could see him leaving Brienne to go kill Cersei and dying in the process, and once again his most noble acts are remembered as his worst, as Brienne always believes he ran back to her.
I like how GoT is ending much more than I liked TLJ but I still feel GoT is more understandably divisive. TLJ was never infuriating or frustrating, just very mediocre. Again, I like how things are shaping up but I can completely understand someone being angry at the show right now.
Hard disagree on the GoT ending being better than TLJ, but I get the general sentiment. I got out of TLJ and was like "I kind of didn't feel that one", whereas seasons 7 and 8 of GoT are just inept in the writing department, and their fixation on shock without the chops to actually sell it turns bad twists into something actively felt as betrayals by the audience.
I'm really curious about how this goes down. IMO it's a complete toss-up between Jaime and Stannis. They make the most sense as prospective Lord Commanders of the Night's Watch.
Nah he will kill her in the books. Show Jaime is a different character
What's really weird about Jaime's turnaround are that the two preceding events are finding out that Bronn was sent to kill him and that Dany lost one of her dragons, which made it seem like Cersei had a better chance of winning the war. That makes him going back to kill her more of a logical progression rather than him deciding that he always wants to be with her. Then he goes and says something that shits on his previous characterisation.
Also, with Dany's rampage on the city rather than going straight for the Red Keep it was pure chance that Cersei actually got killed. If Euron didn't happen to wash up at the exact same spot and start a fight Jaime would have gotten to her sooner and probably gotten back before that tunnel was closed off. Just think, all that destruction and it's chance that the one who should have been the target of her rage was actually killed.
Also, with Dany's rampage on the city rather than going straight for the Red Keep it was pure chance that Cersei actually got killed. If Euron didn't happen to wash up at the exact same spot and start a fight Jaime would have gotten to her sooner and probably gotten back before that tunnel was closed off. Just think, all that destruction and it's chance that the one who should have been the target of her rage was actually killed.
That was snow not ashes. You can see Icicles in that vision.
So your saying that she's a targAryen?Next week is going to be so bad. So fucking bad! I didnt want to bring this up earlier, but someone else on reddit did it for me, but when I saw the preview for next episode, this is exactly what came to mind:
The red circle is a Targaryen flag. Killing innocents and the whole Nazi imagery ( Yeah, I know its somewhat common when it comes to villains) is just going to take this Daenerys backlash to a whole new level. I've said this before, but I'll say it again, Poor Emilia Clarke. She's gonna have to explain this to all the women that looked up to her character. Fuck the writers.
He doesn't possess the requisite number of brain cells for the madness to take hold so he's good.
If there was another season, Jon could go crazy too.
It only takes 5 seconds in an episode.
"We kind of forgot Jon was a targaryan"
I also love how unimportant that reveal was. They dont care about incest, dont care about the throne and had nothing to do with where the story went.
The books make it very obvious that Jaime is going to die.
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Brienne's sword took flame as well, burning silvery blue. The darkness retreated a little more.
"The flames will burn so long as you live," he heard Cersei call. "When they die, so must you."
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The fires that ran along the blade were guttering out, and Jaime remembered what Cersei had said. No. Terror closed a hand about his throat. Then his sword went dark, and only Brienne's burned, as the ghosts came rushing in.
"No," he said, "no, no, no. Nooooooooo!"
I think people saying jaimes arc for nothing are overexaggerating. Jaime has made the right choice when he joined the army of the living. when he went to cersei he knew she would probably die. whats wrong with him wanting to die with the person he loves. his arc was about being a decent human being not about rennouncing cersei.
I also think Jaime doesn't get redemption but he still murders Cersei.
Basically, I think the books will have Jaime murder Cersei but present it as another one of Jaime's black sins. There's nothing redemptive about it especially once you realize that Jaime turned against Cersei and wants to almost murder her because she's been cheating on him.
It's going to be like a husband coming home to find another man 7 inches deep in his wife so he grabs the shotgun from his car to shoot them both and then himself.
How will they even know she's dead? Her body is buried under tons and tons of stone and rock. For all anyone knows Tyrion's plan succeeded and she escaped.
People LOVE his arc in the books. The show said fuck that lets making him a rapist
Uh Jaime straight up looks into the camera and says he specifically isnt a good person.
Funny thing is most of the people defending GOT now are Arya, Sasha, and Jon stans, they all have a basic idea of how the final episode will go
Like everyone I've gotten into an argue with about this ether predicts that Arya is going to save the day again or that Jon does and immediately becomes king
I can't wait for there reaction to Arya essentially doing nothing but walk around, and Bran becoming King by doing nothing
Like everyone I've gotten into an argue with about this ether predicts that Arya is going to save the day again or that Jon does and immediately becomes king
I can't wait for there reaction to Arya essentially doing nothing but walk around, and Bran becoming King by doing nothing
he raped cersei in the books though right?
yeah he says that but his action changed a lot since the first season where he was arrogant (although he did save millions by killing the mad king)
And then he ruined the arc about him saving millions by killing the mad king by this episode having him say he never cared about them at all.
I bet you they do find their bodies. Even if they're unrecognizable the golden hand would give them away.
I wonder how folks are going to take Bran as king. And that Arya ends up doing nothing in KL of value. Or that Jon's resurrection was all to kill Dany.
God. What a mess.
Lol, he was resurrected to kill Dany and he was also the reason why she went Mad, what a fucking joke
The lord of light has reason to bring you back!
Honestly what part of Jons storyline wasn't useless to the grand scheme of things? He did nothing against the white, he doesn't want the throne so theres virtually no reason for this to even be an issue, and he kills Dany something that it was clear her advisers were already trying to do. Then Jon peaces out north. Talk about fucking any potential that character had with the main story lines. Gotta subvert those expectations tho
Jaime arc in winds
meets lady stone heart
manages to survive encounter but brienne dies
he is enslaved by the brotherhood and forced to help with the 2nd red wedding agianst lannisters and freys in the river lands
he manages to escape after in the chaos and goes back to kings landing
as he makes it to the red keep Cersei is about to blow up the city becuase all her kids are dead and the golden company are sacking the city
Jaime kills her but instead of staying he flees and decides to head north
meets lady stone heart
manages to survive encounter but brienne dies
he is enslaved by the brotherhood and forced to help with the 2nd red wedding agianst lannisters and freys in the river lands
he manages to escape after in the chaos and goes back to kings landing
as he makes it to the red keep Cersei is about to blow up the city becuase all her kids are dead and the golden company are sacking the city
Jaime kills her but instead of staying he flees and decides to head north
Jaime's an odd one. I'm fine with a character going back on progress. That's also an arc. But I wish we got more a definitive look into what he feels at the end. Is he convincing the people he's talking to at the end, Tyrion and Brienne, that he's actually bad and didn't care about others? Is he trying to convince himself? Is that what he accepts? Does he feel he's not worthy of being good and thus reverts? I feel like it's kind of that Brienne is the kind of knight he feels he's supposed to strive to be but he knows he's not deep down. But we don't get that from him. It almost feels like fighting for the living and going north was more an excuse for him to Knight Brienne and give her closure no matter what it actually said for him.
Now THATS how you conclude an arc, I'd prefer he takes the black. But perhaps too optimistic. I want him to be a beast with a sword I his left hand. There's a character in the book that had almost the exact situation and it's mentioned he's actually better with his left because it messes with people's angles. It's like a lefty in baseball. They're tough because most people are righties . Definite foreshadowing I saw
The only thing I can think of is that Jon was necessary for uniting the North and convincing Dany of the White Walker threat. That's where his usefulness ends.
So the finale hasn't leaked in full then has it? As in confirming " night queen Dany" and such
I may be misremembering, but I believe the leak with the most credibility has Dany dying at Jon's hands and Jon taking the black/fleeing north.
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