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Pariah

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Lately, I've been replaying the Devil May Cry series, in anticipation (hopefully) of DMC 5 being present at E3. Among its many qualities, I had almost forgotten how delightfully enjoyable its main character is. Dante's design was quite inspired from the beginning, but later games provided him with a very charming personality, up to the point of turning every scene or interaction where he plays a role into an entertaining piece. Somehow, in its playful nature and simple ways, he comes to represent the most refined version of what Japanese developers have been doing for decades: creating characters so fun to engage with, so extravagant and at times ridiculous, that in the end, they are all the better for it.

The most impressive detail, I started to think, is that Dante is not a rare exception for, in this case, the company behind his series. There are not only other examples of cool, very gamey heroes or villains in Devil May Cry. Capcom's output is filled since the 80's with characters that represent video games in a way that no other studio has achieved. Many companies have icons: some are more serious or realistic, portrayed like film characters with complex narrative archs; others are familiar and simple, figures both loved by children and adults. But developers working at Capcom seemed to have created characters from another mindset. Street Fighter II is a classic representation of this model: every single character in the game looks exciting and unique. In time, as the roster kept expanding, we got to play with new designs that felt in tune with the original creations and became inmediate fan-favourites. We might not appreciate it, but it's really hard to achieve this level of success.

From Ryu to Leon, Megaman in any of his versions or the young Frank West, Chris Redfield and Ada Wong, Samanosuke or Wesker, Sissel or Phoenix Wright, Asura and Sir Arthur... Whatever they produce or publish (as long as it comes from their Japanese branch), it's a guarantee of stylish presentation, only possible in the form of video games. Do you feel there's any company on their level in this regard? And if so, which are your favourite characters designed by them?

PS: To Mr. Langdon, thank you for your work, let's hope to hear your voice soon.

My work here is done.
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gordofredito

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- you can't beat Square Enix. They make some of the dumbest but also some of the best
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Silky

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SNK character designs for me. I'm much more fond of the modern contemporary aesthetic look of their fighting games over what Capcom does. Every individual design can speak more on the type of character they can be. Honestly, Sakura is the only Capcom character that even comes close.

I mean, Capcom is still jacking their designs to this day (to add insult to injury, Shinkiro works for them now lol)

From the authenticity and groundedneess of Samurai Shodown's/The Last Blade cast , to the bizarre pop-art styles of Metal Slug -- SNK has always been the better design house for me.
 

lucebuce

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When Capcpom hits it out of the park, they do it pretty damn well.

But SNK overall I feel is just more consistent at good character designs.
Let's not pretend that Capcom hasn't had their share of missteps:

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Thank you, I didn't want to say it and upset the few Abigail fans who slam their keyboards with the ferocity of arcade stick buttons.
 

MCD

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Yeah, Capcom designs are universally loved. You can't get any better.
 

~Fake

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Indeed, but my vote is for Vampire Savior. The chars, the stages and even the quotes are amazing even today.
 

FrostyLemon

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Surely it's Nntendo. I mean look how many iconic characters they have. Blizzard did a good job with Overwatch too.
 

Strangelove_77

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I'll agree with Capcom - Street Fighter, Darkstalkers, Breath Of Fire, Resident Evil, Okami, Devil May Cry, Strider, Megaman. Tons of classics with a wide variety of styles.

They've also been hitting it out of the park with SF5's female character designs.
 

Silky

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Oct 25, 2017
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Surely it's Nntendo. I mean look how many iconic characters they have. Blizzard did a good job with Overwatch too.

Iconic =/ cool

I mean they still do. Just not as consistent anymore.

For proof, see Zeku, new Cody and new Sakura.

Cody has seen multiple design revisions over the years and none of them I would consider to be cool outside of his Alpha 3 incarnation. It's simplicity hits hard that this once Noble and heroic dude can fall so hard to be a no good sociopath.

The Sakura revision was long overdue.

In fact it kind of sucks that no one likes to talk about the design revisions seen in V and how almost Garou MoW like they are.
 

Horror

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I like Konami's range better. From medieval (Castlevania) to horror (Silent Hill) to the brooding paramilitary themes in MGS.
 

PrimeBeef

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Oct 27, 2017
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Like others here I would put Nintendo and Blizzard above Capcom. Although both have had their share of stinkers.
 

Sensei

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'll agree with Capcom - Street Fighter, Darkstalkers, Breath Of Fire, Resident Evil, Okami, Devil May Cry, Strider, Megaman. Tons of classics with a wide variety of styles.

They've also been hitting it out of the park with SF5's female character designs.
Don't forget Viewtiful Joe. His design is sick. I love the pink flowing scarf
 

Grailly

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Oct 27, 2017
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Character design discussions always get weird. They are so up to personal opinion, it's hard to argue against or for any one design.
 

Silky

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Yeah I think I'll put Blizzard over Capcom too. Warcraft is a trendsetter in Western fantasy design
 

bluexy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I gotta disagree. Capcom still has significant issues regarding the sexualization and objectification of female characters. Some games are better and some are worse, but man it's going to take a while before that isn't the first thing I think of with regards to Capcom character design.
 

litebrite

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I've been playing Sonic All Stars Transformed from Games with Gold and I forgot how Sega had a lot of great and iconic characters.
 

2+2=5

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Fighting game wise i have always preferred the more down-to-earth designs of SNK, i have always found them way cooler than the more cartoony(sometimes just weird) Capcom's designs.
 

SieteBlanco

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Capcom before people like Kinu Nishimura, Akiman or Tatsuya Yoshikawa left was certainly the best; these days it's but a shell of its former self.
 

DrArchon

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Being better than absolute trash does not mean he's good.
This. The newcomers in the SF4 games are awful. You've got:
  • An SNK ripoff (C.Viper)
  • Blandy McBlanderson (Abel)
  • One of the worst final boss designs in SF history (Seth)\
  • A Cammy mod (Decapre)
  • Rufus
Only one that knocks it out of the park is Juri, and, surprise surprise, they fucked up her default costume in V.
 

Silky

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Capcom before people like Kinu Nishimura, Akiman or Tatsuya Yoshikawa left was certainly the best; these days it's but a shell of its former self.

Daigo Ikeno's take on the Street Fighter cast / his Capcom work in general is very good

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I don't see the appeal in Menat's character design at all. Too much noise in her design compared to Rose, the character she's supposed to be a successor of.

And C. Viper is legitimately cool looking, it's such a shame the community has this weirdo disdain for her.
 

RecRoulette

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This. The newcomers in the SF4 games are awful. You've got:
  • An SNK ripoff (C.Viper)
  • Blandy McBlanderson (Abel)
  • One of the worst final boss designs in SF history (Seth)\
  • A Cammy mod (Decapre)
  • Rufus
Only one that knocks it out of the park is Juri, and, surprise surprise, they fucked up her default costume in V.

Sad thing is Juri's only good because she's a goddamn Jojo
 

Deleted member 11093

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This. The newcomers in the SF4 games are awful. You've got:
  • An SNK ripoff (C.Viper)
  • Blandy McBlanderson (Abel)
  • One of the worst final boss designs in SF history (Seth)\
  • A Cammy mod (Decapre)
  • Rufus
Only one that knocks it out of the park is Juri, and, surprise surprise, they fucked up her default costume in V.
not just the default costume
 

Silky

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You know who's cooler? Vice and Mature.
Why bother comparing those two to Viper when it's blatantly obvious they're taking the inspirations for her design from the Agents team more than the secretaries.

Can we stop pretending that taking shit from other franchises is necessarily bad? Because SNK and Capcom have been -- and STILL ARE -- taking shit from each other to this day.
 

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Yeah Capcom have made some truly great characters over the years. They've also done a great job redesigning their old characters as well (Cody, Sakura etc.)
 

Lozjam

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I gotta say Sega though. Throughout the years, they have had some really cool characters(excluding the Sonic OC crew). I mean, you got Sonic. You have the entire cast Valkyria Chronicles
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You have Jet Set Radio
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Phantasy Star:
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And much much more.
 

TheBaldwin

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Let's not pretend that Capcom hasn't had their share of missteps:

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Awful. Looks like a jokey boss character from borderlands.

Capcom has some great designs. I'd give Atlus a good shout, and squre enix with FF is okay, but changes depending on your taste. for example, i think the designs in FFXV are some of the worst this generation.

Speaking of atlus though, as the post above states, Sega in general is pretty good. Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza, Jet Set Radio, Persona/ Shin Megami.


EDIT: Also actually, bioware. Baldurs Gate, KOTOR, Mass Effect, Dragon Age all have solid designs.
 

Asbsand

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Capcom has iconic characterography. If all developers had cinematic universes Capcom would have the best one followed by Nintendo.
 

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Why bother comparing those two to Viper when it's blatantly obvious they're taking the inspirations for her design from the Agents team more than the secretaries.

Can we stop pretending that taking shit from other franchises is necessarily bad? Because SNK and Capcom have been -- and STILL ARE -- taking shit from each other to this day.
Yeah the whole "she looks like a kof character" thing has always been dumb. Those games have good designs so if she looks like that well... that's fine?