It can be but one look into reddit or the steam forums for almost any game shows many people with even more problems.It can be just as easy as I explained earlier. My wife is a PC gamer as well and she knows exactly nothing at all about hardware and fiddling with ini files or driver or whatever. So I guess we're two of those luckiest persons on earth here then. Gsync is a tweak-saver though, since I never see much stutter I just never bother to try tweaking things to perfection, I just start the games and make sure vsync is off and start gaming.
I had some issues at one point when I tried to benchmark and overlock my GPU when the factory overclock for the GPU didn't work. But after someone said those benchmark points would in reality mean 3-4 extra frames I just stopped and forgot all about it. And still, Gears 5, 100fps on average on Ultra. Its enough.
It can be but one look into reddit or the steam forums for almost any game shows many people with even more problems.
I played The Division 2 with my best friend over the last few months and his game would simply start running like shit after 2 hours of gameplay. After a restart everything works fine. So, because i'm a pc player for over 20 years, i tried to look into hos problems and found many people with the same problem in the ubisoft forums. I tried the recommended 5-10 "fixes" but nothing helped. So i tried to update the nvidia gpu driver... Should be simple and without a problem but nothing could be further from the truth. The game displayed weird colours and ran worse than before. Just update the driver... lol. I had to manually uninstall the new driver, download a tool to delete the leftover driver parts and find his old gpu drivers because with them he could at least play for a time.
people love to act like they never have issues but thats simply a lie (or they are the luckiest person on earth).
computers are incredibly complex machines, with windows being an incredibly complex OS, trying to run a game which is an incredibly complex application. things simply go wrong, and sometimes you have no idea why.
I've been a life long PC player and always will be, but the whole "its just as easy as playing on a console" is annoying and wrong.
Plus I always thought it was good practice to manually uninstall drivers and install the new ones. I dunno I always remembered something like that.
You are kinda giving me flashbacks of all the hard resets I had to do on my Xbox to get things working in Destiny.I do appreciate how Modern Warfare is so easy to play on Xbox
When I wanna play it, I just press a button on my console and I’m in
When the game hard crashes my console every fifteen minutes, I just press a button, and ten minutes later, I’m back in
No troubleshooting required
Its so easy and worry free
for real though the console experience has not been doing it for me lately, feeling like a lot of what I once considered to be usability advantages are diminishing over time as UIs become more sluggish and as many big name games become less reliable in terms of performance and stability
Yes, the community is console centric, but I'm a primarily high end PC gamer sitting here telling you I agree with them.See, this sort of position in my opinion is hugely exaggerated because of the console-centric nature of this community. Yes, console gaming is smoother, but there are millions upon millions of people all over the world engaging in this apparently prohibitively cumbersome experience. And the market keeps growing. It simply isn't true to say that the experience is prohibitive to the average joe, unless one feels comfortable making the argument that the entirety of PC gaming's audience is comprised of hardcore enthusiasts.
That's the thing. On PC the likelihood, the RISK of things just not quite working right and needing tweaks/fiddling is FAR higher than on console. Simply due to the nature of modular hardware, containing many more software components.You probably won't get a non biased consensus on a primarily console forum, but I just imagine the rage would feel if a new game I bought didn't work for any reason or other was some weird quirk like micro stutter. Then I remember why I am in no rush to switch to pc. I remember how frustrating it was to get the grind house typing of the dead game to work on steam and it was old as hell at the time. I know that may not be common but the risk of it makes me stay away from pc. I also think this next batch of consoles will be more powerful relative to pcs for longer.
on modern versions of windows this generally isn't the case. i'd recommend it if you're switching from AMD to nvidia or vice versa, but if you're just updating then installing the new version on top doesn't require any uninstall first or reboot after.
You, me and everyone else on this forum are a tiny minority of users compared to the bigger gamer audience. We may share our opinion and express ourselves but we can't speak for others outside of our own little bubble. So when the facts contradict our claims we have to be able to realize that maybe our own viewpoint if affected by the communities we interact with.Yes, the community is console centric, but I'm a primarily high end PC gamer sitting here telling you I agree with them.
And as I conceded, both platforms are very smooth indeed. At big picture scale, the difference isn't that big. But at a very granular level, most users never want to (or will never even consider) deal(ing) with any of this shit. Not even a tiny bit of it. They don't want to have to fiddle with their software, in any case, at any level. They want plug and play.
I'm not saying it's flat-out prohibitive - it's just not the experience they want, because it requires more effort (even if it's not much more, it's enough).
Hmm might have to eat some crow then. Yeah might be possible to just scrape 30fps at low with a 1060. A 1660ti getting 30fps with medium/high mix seems possible too, that's a good equivalent to the oneX (or the far cheaper super), so I guess we'll see with DF's analysis what equivalent settings the consoles are actually using.Launched on PC a year after it debuted on consoles, Red Dead Redemption 2 is still a big release that deserves a detailed benchmark analysis, much like what we've done for other titles this year like Borderlands 3 where we compared over 60 GPUs, Metro Exodus, and most recently Fornite Chapter 2...www.techspot.com
It's averaging 19fps on high here at 4k. If you extrapolate....
We played video games for decades and loved them, but this generation has seen a fetishization of performance numbers and pixel counting. Last gen, barely anyone cared that Halo 3 or CoD4 ran at sub-720p, or that most games ran at or below 30fps. All of a sudden it was a huge deal and anything less than 1080p or 60fps is now "completely unplayable". This is probably due to the sharp rise of PC gaming this decade, where that kind of thing is more closely scrutinized.i dont think you can find a single game on ps4 in the lasst 4 years that can hold its framerate constant throughout.
Actually, the age old idea that console games just work seems to be more and more of a bullshit myth now that we have tools to measure performance and we have videos going back to all sorts of games even from the 90's. ocarina ran like shit, goldeneye ran like shit. ps2 gtas ran like shit. turok 2 ran like in single digit framerates.
I myself would rather give up gaming than be reduced to consoles for playing games if this is how "games that work" looks like
We still have Alex's followup video to look forward to as well. That will go even more in depth with individual settings
secret sauce ssds brah
I guess I wish I could have console gamer eyes so I could appreciate how low settings on a locked down plastic box are better than low settings on an open plastic box.
This is inaccurate to the content of the video.
Ah, but, last gen was kind of a mess performance wise and many of those games with caps drop below 30fps often with tearing on 360. These are fixed on X1 BC.
Oh I agree, X's BC is incredible as far as consoles are concerned.
The idea of PC gaming becoming obsolete due to a new hardware generation is bizarre. Where do people assume this new console tech comes from? I have a buddy who wouldn't stop boasting about how PS5 is using an SSD lol. By the time the new consoles drop, there will already be PCs built with superior specs. That's just the nature of the industry, I don't see why some people are willfully ignorant to that.
''dat codin' to the metal tho''
PC is already way ahead of the next gen console.The idea of PC gaming becoming obsolete due to a new hardware generation is bizarre. Where do people assume this new console tech comes from? I have a buddy who wouldn't stop boasting about how PS5 is using an SSD lol. By the time the new consoles drop, there will already be PCs built with superior specs. That's just the nature of the industry, I don't see why some people are willfully ignorant to that.
Are there spec leaks I'm unaware of? I just assumed they'd slap a 2080 in there and call it a day lol.
yeah, but at what cost? a 2080Ti is expensive as fuck. Consoles usually hit the right balance, don't forget that.
Consoles hit the right balance for some. That's the great thing about the PC side. We aren't forced to be satisfied with the current state of console performance if the balance doesn't hit the mark personally.
While more power is definitely an option, this is not about it. I can get better experience with lower specced PC. Different options for controls and display alone are a huge improvement. And i can always sacrifice graphics for framerate. I'd say PC gaming is more "balanced" than console gaming. I can also just delay getting the game when it's released and play it later when better hardware is coming out seasonally and scale it accordingly. Then there's all the tweaks, mods and hacks that improve and change the vanilla game to my liking.
Are we also forgetting that no one is obliged to get the absolute best thing out there or be in lock step with consoles.
You don't NEED a 2080 Ti. You also don't need to run native 4K. It's a fools errand considering today's hardware. You can get amazing image quality and performance by toning down the resolution a bit.
This video shows how bad initial impressions are vs reality.