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Oricon (Japan) Manga Sales 2019 [2018 Nov 19 - 2019 Nov 17] - Demon Slayer #1, One Piece #2

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Oricon (2018 Nov. 19 – 2019 Nov. 19):

Top 50 best-selling manga series:
RANK./LAST YEAR'S RANK. TITLE [WRITER] ( MAGAZINE / PUBLISHER ) {NUMBER OF VOLUMES PUBLISHED} - YEAR-TO-DATE SALES (YEAR-ON-YEAR GROWTH)

01./00. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba [Koyoharu Gotōge] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {4 volumes} - 12,057,628 (+796%)
02./01. One Piece [Eiichirō Oda] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {4 volumes} - 10,134,232 (+25%)
03./06. Kingdom [Yasuhisa Hara] (Weekly Young Jump / Shūeisha) {3 volumes} - 7,661,361 (+54%)
04./08. The Promised Neverland [Kaiu Shirai / Posuka Demizu] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {5 volumes} - 7,454,745 (+76%)
05./00. The Quintessential Quintuplets [Negi Haruba] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {6 volumes} - 5,895,000 (+534%)
06./02. My Hero Academia [Kōhei Horikoshi] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {4 volumes} - 5,047,574(-25%)
07./03. Attack on Titan [Hajime Isayame] (Bessatsu Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {3 volumes} - 4,704,234 (-10%)
08./05. Haikyu!! [Haruichi Furudate] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {6 volumes} - 4,514,838 (-10%)
09./00. Kaguya-sama: Love Is War [Aka Akasaka] (Weekly Young Jump / Shūeisha) {5 volumes} - 4,096,492 (+240%)
10./09. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime [Fuse / Taiki Kawakami] (Monthly Shōnen Sirius / Kōdansha) {3 volumes} - 3,414,482 (-30%)
11./07. The Seven Deadly sins [Nakaba Suzuki] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {5 volumes} - 3,178,809 (-35%)
12./14. One-Punch Man [ONE / Yusuke Murata] (Tonari no Young Jump / Shūeisha) {3 volumes} - 3,140,568 (19%)
13./11. Golden Kamuy [Satoru Noda] (Weekly Young Jump / Shūeisha) {4 volumes} - 2,277,490 (-28%)
14./00. The Apothecary Diaries [Natsu Hyūga / Itsuki Nanao / Nekokurage] (Monthly Big Gangan / Square Enix and Sunday GX / Shogakukan) {4 volumes} - 1,953,063
15./19. Ace of Diamond Act II [Yuji Terajima] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {5 volumes} - 1,879,061 (+17%)
16./00. Dr. Stone [Riichirō Inagaki / Boichi] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {6 volumes} - 1,821,993
17./12. Black Clover [Yūki Tabata] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {4 volumes} - 1,741,052 (-44%)
18./00. Fire Force [Atsushi Ōkubo] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {5 volumes} - 1,577,907
19./00. Jujutsu Kaisen [Gege Akutami] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {5 volumes}
20./RE. World Trigger [Daisuke Ashihara] (Jump Square / Shūeisha) {2 volumes}
21./17. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma [Yuto Tsukuda / Shun Saeki] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {5 volumes} - 1,364,003 (-21%)
22./22. Dragon Ball Super [Akira Toriyama / Toyotarou] (V Jump / Shūeisha) {3 volumes} - 1,312,679 (-11%)
23./37. Boarding School Juliet [Yōsuke Kaneda] (Monthly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {6 volumes} - 1,278,766 (+28%)
24./46. We Never Learn [Taishi Tsutsui] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {6 volumes} - 1,253,699 (+47%)
25./00. Act-Age [Tatsuya Matsuki / Shiro Usazaki] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha ) {4 volumes} - 1,235,954
26./15. Detective Conan [Gosho Aoyama] (Weekly Shōnen Sunday / Shogakukan) {1 volume} - 1,235,224 (-46%)
27./00. Kuubo Ibuki [Osamu Eya / Kaiji Kawaguchi] (Big Comic Spirits / Shogakukan) {2 volumes} - 1,195,517
28./00. The Fable [Katsuhisa Minami] (Weekly Young Magazine / Kōdansha) {4 volumes} - 1,193,002
29./00. The Rising of the Shield Hero [Yusagi Aneko / Kyū Aiya / Seira Minami] (Comic Flapper / Media Factory) {3 volumes} - 1,166,000
30./00. Mix [Mitsuru Adachi] (Gessan / Shogakukan) {2 volumes} - 1,157,819
31./00. Rent-a-Girlfriend [Reiji Miyajima] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha ) {5 volumes} - 1,069,739
32./00. Bakemonogatari [NisiOisiN / Oh!Great / VOFAN] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {4 volumes} - 1,038,668
33./00. Record of Ragnarok [Shinya Umemura / Takumi Fukui / Ajichika] (Monthly Comic Zenon / Coamix) {2 volumes} - 956,959
34./00. Tokyo Revengers [Ken Wakui] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha ) {5 volumes} - 944,589
35./00. Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc [Nobuhiro Watsuki / Kaoru Kurosaki] (Jump Square / Shūeisha ) {2 volumes} - 942,079
36./00. Hell's Paradise: Jigokuraku [Yuji Kaku] (Shōnen Jump+ / Shūeisha ) {3 volumes} - 927,019
37./00. Toilet-Bound Hanako-kun [Aidairo ] (Monthly GFantasy / Square Enix ) {2 volumes} - 911,186
38./00. Aoashi [Yūgo Kobayashi] (Big Comic Spirits / Shogakukan) {4 volumes} - 908,073
39./16. Teasing Master Takagi-san [Sōichirō Yamamoto] (Monthly Shōnen Sunday / Shogakukan) {2 volumes} - 905,962 (-53%)
40./00. Delicious in Dungeon [Ryōko Kui] (Harta / Enterbrain) {2 volumes} - 880,027
41./04. Slam Dunk [Takehiko Inoue] (Weekly Shōnen Jump / Shūeisha) {0 volumes} - 877,945 (-83%)
42./00. Kenja no Mago [Tsuyoshi Yoshioka / Shunsuke Ogata] (Young Ace Up / Kadokawa Shoten) {4 volumes} - 868,533
43./RE. March Comes In like & Lion [Chica Umino] (Young Animal / Hakusensha) {1 volume} - 860,700
44./00. The Way of the Househusband [Kousuke Oono] (Kurage Bunch / Shinchosha) {2 volumes} - 860,622
45./32. Days [Tsuyoshi Yasuda] (Weekly Shōnen Magazine / Kōdansha) {5 volumes} - 849,033 (-20%)
46./36. Komi Can't Communicate [Tomohito Oda] (Weekly Shōnen Sunday / Shogakukan) {4 volumes} - 846,830 (-16%)
47./00. Splatoon [Sankichi Hinodeya] (Monthly Corocoro Comic / Shogakukan) {4 volumes} - 829,309
48./43. Giant Killing [Masaya Tsunamoto / Tsujitomo] (Morning / Kōdansha) {4 volumes} - 810,983 (-10%)
49./31. Space Brothers [Chūya Koyama] (Morning / Kōdansha) {2 volumes} - 788,848 (-28%)
50./49. Blue Exorcist [Kazue Katō] (Jump Square / Shūeisha) {2 volumes} - 776,994 (-6%)

Top 200 best-selling manga volumes:
RANK. TITLE - YEAR-TO-DATE SALES
01. One Piece #91 - 2,388,243
02. One Piece #92 - 2,200,000
03. One Piece #93 - 2,112,734
04. One Piece #94 - 1,880,146
05. Attack on Titan #27 - 1,344,500
06. Attack on Titan #28 - 1,172,448
07. Attack on Titan #29 - 955,124
08. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #17 - 926,446
09. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #16 - 877,366
10. Kingdom #53 - 863,994
11. Kingdom #54 - 850,606
12. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #15 - 833,472
13. My Hero Academia #21 - 831,797
14. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #14 - 821,222
15. Kingdom #55 - 809,855
16. The Promised Neverland #12 - 801,584
17. My Hero Academia #22 - 775,064
18. The Promised Neverland #14 - 741,903
19. Haikyu!! #35 - 698,372
20. One-Punch Man #18 - 695,864
21. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #13 - 693,931
22. March Comes In Like A Lion #14 - 687,476
23. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #1 - 680,787
24. My Hero Academia #23 - 679,813
25. The Promised Neverland #15 - 673,890
26. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #8 - 672,657
27. Haikyu!! #36 - 670,423
28. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #7 - 667,478
29. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #9 - 667,413
30. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #2 - 664,815
31. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #10 - 659,387
32. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #12 - 659,221
33. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #11 - 657,289
34. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #3 - 650,471
35. The Promised Neverland #13 - 649,919
36. One-Punch Man #19 - 642,461
37. My Hero Academia #24 - 639,932
38. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #4 - 638,068
39. Detective Conan #96 - 637,717
40. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #5 - 635,642
41. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba #6 - 634,828
42. Haikyu!! #37 - 628,313
43. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime #10 - 607,822
44. The Quintessential Quintuplets #8 - 596,125
45. The Quintessential Quintuplets #7 - 591,502
46. The Quintessential Quintuplets #9 - 586,252
47. One-Punch Man #20 - 585,680
48. Haikyu!! #38 - 582,378
49. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime #11 - 570,702
50. The Quintessential Quintuplets #10 - 565,672
51. The Promised Neverland #16 - 545,788
52. The Quintessential Quintuplets #11 - 529,221
53. The Seven Deadly Sins #35 - 516,357
54. Black Butler #28 - 511,894
55. Haikyu!! #39 - 492,928
56. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime #12 - 491,527
57. Wotakoi: Love Is Hard for Otaku #7 - 484,300
58. Drifters #6 - 479,139
59. The Seven Deadly Sins #36 - 471,755
60. The Quintessential Quintuplets #6 - 464,222
61. The Quintessential Quintuplets #1 - 462,615
62. The Quintessential Quintuplets #5 - 459,962
63. The Promised Neverland #11 - 458,534
64. The Quintessential Quintuplets #2 - 454,536
65. The Quintessential Quintuplets #4 - 444,632
66. The Quintessential Quintuplets #3 - 444,602
67. The Seven Deadly Sins #37 - 444,434
68. Delicious in Dungeon #7 - 444,240
69. Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc #2 - 437,347
70. World Trigger #19 - 429,741
71. Golden Kamuy #16 - 422,167
72. Spy x Family #1 - 417,592
73. World Trigger #20 - 399,768
74. Detective Conan: Zero's Tea Time #3 - 386,837
75. Delicious in Dungeon #8 - 386,553
76. Demon Slayer Official Fanbook #1 - 384,607
77. The Seven Deadly Sins #34 - 383,106
78. Haikyu!! #40 - 382,601
79. Natsume's Book of Friends #24 - 379,563
80. Golden Kamuy #18 - 378,452
81. The Seven Deadly Sins #38 - 370,219
82. Saint Young Men #16 - 369,747
83. Blue Exorcist #23 - 369,196
84. The Promised Neverland #1 - 368,904
85. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #12 - 368,529
86. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #14 - 366,376
87. The Apothecary Diaries #4 - 363,276
88. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #13 - 363,141
89. Golden Kamuy #17 - 362,698
90. Monthly Girls' Nozaki-kun #11 - 362,246
91. The Promised Neverland #2 - 358,720
92. The Promised Neverland #3 - 349,082
93. The Promised Neverland #5 - 348,500
94. Black Lagoon #11 - 347,135
95. The Promised Neverland #10 - 343,305
96. The Way of the Househusband #2 - 342,354
97. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #15 - 341,996
98. The Promised Neverland #4 - 340,567
99. The Promised Neverland #6 - 338,830
100. The Apothecary Diaries #5 - 338,512
101. Rurouni Kenshin: The Hokkaido Arc #3 - 336,869
102. D. Gray-Man #26 - 336,841
103. Spy x Family #2 - 336,475
104. Dragon Ball Super #8 - 334,949
105. The Promised Neverland #8 - 334,715
106. Space Brothers #35 - 333,924
107. The Promised Neverland #7 - 333,772
108. The Promised Neverland #9 - 332,892
109. Mix #14 - 327,711
110. Black Clover #19 - 324,640
111. Ace of Diamond Act II #15 - 317,082
112. Dragon Ball Super #9 - 307,255
113. What Did You Eat Yesterday? #15 - 306,298
114. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #16 - 305,144
115. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #32 - 303,005
116. Ace of Diamond Act II #16 - 296,096
117. Saint Young Men #17 - 295,686
118. Chihayafuru #41 - 294,172
119. Golden Kamuy #19 - 293,398
120. Space Brothers #36 - 293,338
121. The Apothecary Diaries #1 - 292,773
122. Terra Formars #22 - 288,435
123. Black Clover #20 - 286,622
124. A Bride's Story #11 - 284,575
125. The Heroic Legend of Arslan #11 - 281,754
126. The Apothecary Diaries #2 - 280,511
127. Jujutsu Kaisen #3 - 279,434
128. The Apothecary Diaries #3 - 276,053
129. Mix #15 - 274,187
130. Ace of Diamond Act II #17 - 273,039
131. A Man and His Cat #2 - 269,196
132. One Piece #90 - 268,392
133. Grand Blue Dreaming #12 - 267,107
134. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #33 - 266,994
135. The Way of the Househusband #3 - 262,777
136. Record of Ragnarok #3 - 262,701
137. Love Me, Love Me Not #11 - 262,566
138. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 8 Jojolion #20 - 261,753
139. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #1 - 260,923
140. Ace of Diamond Act II #18 - 259,580
141. Umimachi Diary #9 - 259,531
142. Jujutsu Kaisen #4 - 259,245
143. Kuubo Ibuki #11 - 258,085
144. Dragon Ball Super #10 - 257,389
145. Gintama #77 - 257,211
146. Teasing Master Takagi-san #10 - 257,013
147. Black Clover #21 - 255,921
148. Card Captor Sakura: Clear Card #6 - 255,630
149. The Way of the Househusband #1 - 255,491
150. Chihayafuru #42 - 254,662
151. The Ancient Magus Bride #11 - 252,743
152. Blue Exorcist #24 - 252,182
153. Dakaichi: I'm Being Harassed By the Sexiest Man of the Year #6 - 250,532
154. Skip Beat! #43 - 247,324
155. Seraph of the End #18 - 245,133
156. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #34 - 245,013
157. Jujutsu Kaisen #5 - 242,985
158. Grand Blue Dreaming #13 - 241,267
159. Hozuki's Coolheadedness #28 - 239,011
160. Ace of Diamond Act II #14 - 238,507
161. Kuubo Ibuki #12 - 238,330
162. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #2 - 237,191
163. Jujutsu Kaisen #0 - 235,571
164. Record of Ragnarok #1 - 233,963
165. Barakamon #18 - 233,683
166. Record of Ragnarok #2 - 230,817
167. Boruto: Naruto Next Generations #7 - 230,791
168. Koyoharu Gotouge: Short Stories - 230,330
169. Record of Ragnarok #4 - 229,478
170. Jujutsu Kaisen #6 - 226,142
171. Ajin #14 - 225,225
172. Love Me, Love Me Not #12 - 224,441
173. Yakuza Lover #1 - 224,146
174. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #3 - 223,441
175. The Quintessential Quintuplets #12 - 221,275
176. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 8 Jojolion #21 - 220,507
177. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #35 - 218,975
178. Giant Killing #50 - 216,779
179. Gintama #76 - 216,735
180. That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime #9 - 215,295
181. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #4 - 214,312
182. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #5 - 211,900
183. Boruto: Naruto Next Generations #8 - 210,356
184. Dr. Stone #8 - 209,815
185. Bungo Stray Dogs #16 - 209,409
186. Bungo Stray Dogs #17 - 207,427
187. Teasing Master Takagi-san #11 - 207,043
188. Black Clover #22 - 206,203
189. Splatoon #7 - 205,011
190. Ace of Diamond Act II #19 - 204,501
191. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #6 - 204,278
192. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #11 - 204,139
193. The Ancient Magus Bride #12 - 203,757
194. A Man and His Cat #3 - 203,681
195. Giant Killing #51 - 202,384
196. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma #36 - 201,261
197. This Lonely Planet #12 - 201,021
198. Kaguya-sama: Love is War #7 - 200,895
199. Dr. Stone #9 - 200,856
200. Yona of the Dawn #28 - 200,182

BONUS

The following categories are just bonus numbers calculated from available data


Top 10 series based on average sales of newly published volumes only :

RANK./LAST YEAR'S RANK. TITLE <SHARE OF BACKLOG SALES> - AVERAGE SALES OF NEWLY PUBLISHED VOLUMES (YEAR-ON-YEAR GROWTH OF THAT AVERAGE)

01./01. One Piece <15,33%> - 2,145,281 (-4,2%)
02./02. Attack on Titan <26,19%> - 1,157,357 (-14,72%)
03./00. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba <71,32%> - 864,627 (unknown)
04./04. Kingdom <67,05%> - 841,485 (+7,03%)
05./05. My Hero Academia <42,04%> - 731,436 (-4,93%%)
06./00. March Comes In Like a lion <unknown> - 687,476 (unknown)
07./12. The Promised Neverland <54,15%> - 683,659 (+39,20%)
08./08. One Punch Man <unknown> - 641,668 (-6,03%)
09./09. Detective Conan <unknown> - 637.717 (+1,02%)
10./07. Haikyuu!! <23,21%> - 577,848 (-17,72%)


The 14 years a manga sold over 10 million copies sold since 2008

RANK. TITLE (YEAR) - YEAR-TO-DATE SALES

1. One Piece (2011) - 37,996,373
2. One Piece (2010) - 32,343,809
3. One Piece (2012) - 23,464,866
4. One Piece (2013) - 18,151,599
5. Attack on Titan (2013) - 15,933,801
6. One Piece (2009) - 14,721,241
7. One Piece (2015) - 14,102,521
8. One Piece (2016) - 12,314,326
9. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (2019) - 12,057,628
10. One Piece (2014) - 11,885,957
11. Attack on Titan (2014) - 11,728,368
12. One Piece (2017) - 11,495,532
13. Seven Deadly Sins (2015) - 10,304,112
14. One Piece (2019) - 10,134,232

Combined sales of the Top 10 Manga series through the years

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Didn't Shueisha announce that One Piece was 1st ?
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    Rouk'

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    alexi52 said:
    But didn't Shūeisha say One Piece was number 1 this year?
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    I'm gonna answer this first, since I know people are gonna ask.

    ManganiMY wrote a detailed explanation here.

    But TL;DR :
    The statement wasn't from Shueisha themselves, it was taken from an interview with the One Piece editor, who likely did not know the up-to-date numbers. The interview was also likely made about a month before the end of the tracking period, month during which Demon Slayer sold millions of copies. Also, it's likely he was talking about the number of copies in circulation, not the actual sell-through data

    So basically, just some miscommunication
     
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    Jeez...is Demon Slayer really that good? So much hype about it. But then again Assassination Classroom also sold really well few years ago I thought it was boring.
     
    crimsonlink

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    It's been amazing seeing all these one piece "fans" come out of the woodwork to deny this claim. Like both mangas didn't sell a shit ton and do really well and one piece is so holy that it needs to be #1 on every list lol.

    Good on Kimitsu no Yaiba. The author out in hard work and it's paying off for her. Op is still gonna be number one but it's nice that something is challenging it head-on.
     
    Lugia

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    Its not miscommunication sheuisha retweeted the news about OP being number 1, and its been reported by different outlets. People are basically saying sheuisha the publisher of both series is lying, and to basically just believe a company that tracks sales, but doesnt have the full picture
     
    crimsonlink

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    Lugia said:
    Its not miscommunication sheuisha retweeted the news about OP being number 1, and its been reported by different outlets. People are basically saying sheuisha the publisher of both series is lying, and to basically just believe a company that tracks sales, but doesnt have the full picture
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    Oh this is interesting! If you have more info about this please make a thread and share.
     
    Vyse

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    I need the full breakdown of this conspiracy, I feel this is like Vgchartz vs financial reports from game companies but somehow people trust the tracker more than the actual source.
     
    Principate

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    Rouk' said:
    I'm gonna answer this first, since I know people are gonna ask.

    ManganiMY wrote a detailed explanation here.

    But TL;DR :
    The statement wasn't from Shueisha themselves, it was taken from an interview with the One Piece editor, who likely did not know the up-to-date numbers. The interview was also likely made about a month before the end of the tracking period, month during which Demon Slayer sold millions of copies. Also, it's likely he was talking about the number of copies in circulation, not the actual sell-through data

    So basically, just some miscommunication
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    Didn't Shueisha themselves state One Piece sold 12.7 million and Oricon doesn't actually track all retail stores so Shueisha should know between the two.

    I'd personally trust Shueisha on this, but that's just me.
     
    Owl

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    Yeaaaah, it's weird people take a 3rd party's tracking over the company that owns both series. Does Oricon take into account digital sales or is missing something valuable?
     
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    I don't quite understand the ravenous demand for Demon Slayer. I read the first volume and thought it was pretty good. When I went to my local comic shop to pick up the second volume I was told that it's almost impossible to get (English) copies of the manga because they sell out almost instantly. Is it because of the anime?
     
    MetroidPrimeRib

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    so1337 said:
    I don't quite understand the ravenous demand for Demon Slayer. I read the first volume and thought it was pretty good. When I went to my local comic shop to pick up the second volume I was told that it's almost impossible to get (English) copies of the manga because they sell out almost instantly. Is it because of the anime?
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    Yeah. A boost this large (not being on the list last year to almost/beating One Piece) usually only comes from an already popular series ending or a very succesful anime and this has both

    Take a look at Attack on Titan's sales in 2014 when the anime first came out
     
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    MetroidPrimeRib said:
    Yeah. A boost this large (not being on the list last year to almost/beating One Piece) usually only comes from an already popular series ending or a very succesful anime and this has both

    Take a look at Attack on Titan's sales in 2014 when the anime first came out
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    I've heard nothing but good things about the anime so I suppose it makes sense. What's the popular series that ended recently, by the way?
     
    Lulu

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    so1337 said:
    I don't quite understand the ravenous demand for Demon Slayer. I read the first volume and thought it was pretty good. When I went to my local comic shop to pick up the second volume I was told that it's almost impossible to get (English) copies of the manga because they sell out almost instantly. Is it because of the anime?
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    It had a really good anime adaption that blew up.
     
    Imperial Bishop

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    I'd take more credence from the official publisher who has every internal data about the manga they publish than with Oricon.
     
    MetroidPrimeRib

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    so1337 said:
    I've heard nothing but good things about the anime so I suppose it makes sense. What's the popular series that ended recently, by the way?
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    Promised Neverland is ending (supposedly) and so is Demon Slayer (also supposedly I dont read it)

    If you look back at when Naruto, Full Metal Alchemist or Death Note were ending they all got boosts. In Demon Slayer's case, the new volumes aren't selling even close to One Piece's new volumes. Whats happening is people buying the back catalog, which can multiply sales by a multitude.

    One Piece obviously isn't over, but when what would become the first half of the manga was ending in a massive arc the sales turned out like this -

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    Thats mostly back catalog.
     
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    Vyse said:
    I need the full breakdown of this conspiracy, I feel this is like Vgchartz vs financial reports from game companies but somehow people trust the tracker more than the actual source.
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    There's no conspiracy. Sheushia has been trying to find something to overtake One Piece for ages now. This is why they invest so heavily into series that get any sort of inkling of popularity like Toriko or My Hero Academia. It's in their best interest for Yaiba to beat One Piece's sales.
     
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    Imperial Bishop said:
    I'd take more credence from the official publisher who has every internal data about the manga they publish than with Oricon.
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    Even Shueisha themself uses Oricon (how else would they have known that One Piece had beaten Attack on Titan by barely 150k units in 2014? They don't publish AoT, they don't have its data). Moreover, they don't necessarily have their own data for physical sell-through (that's why there exists entire companies that track those sales, such as Oricon, NPD or Media Create), they do know about digital sales and how many units of a manga are in circulation.
    The source is not quite Shueisha: It's from an interview with the One Piece editor. The rest, I already explained here
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    I'm gonna answer this first, since I know people are gonna ask.

    ManganiMY wrote a detailed explanation here.

    But TL;DR :
    The statement wasn't from Shueisha themselves, it was taken from an interview with the One Piece editor, who likely did not know the up-to-date numbers. The interview was also likely made about a month before the end of the tracking period, month during which Demon Slayer sold millions of copies. Also, it's likely he was talking about the number of copies in circulation, not the actual sell-through data

    So basically, just some miscommunication
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    Even if we want to believe Shueisha, and say that One Piece stays #1, the comparison still stands with other years tracked by Oricon. And the facts are there: Demon Slayer was the first manga to beat One Piece according to Oricon since Death Note and Nodame Cantabile in 2006.
     
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    MetroidPrimeRib said:
    Promised Neverland is ending (supposedly) and so is Demon Slayer (also supposedly I dont read it)

    If you look back at when Naruto, Full Metal Alchemist or Death Note were ending they all got boosts. In Demon Slayer's case, the new volumes aren't selling even close to One Piece's new volumes. Whats happening is people buying the back catalog, which can multiply sales by a multitude.

    One Piece obviously isn't over, but when what would become the first half of the manga was ending in a massive arc the sales turned out like this -

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    Thats mostly back catalog.
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    Fascinating stuff. It's remarkable that One Piece experienced a similar sales boost despite not actually ending (yet.)
     
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    Isn't JUMP itself saying One Piece had the higher sales?
     
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    Sandfox said:
    You claimed that Shueisha was lying to protect One Piece so...
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    Never said Shueisha was lying.

    My point was this: Shueisha/OP editor/whoever it was releases end of year numbers (circulation/sold/???), which they hardly ever do, right before Oricon releases theirs, knowing Oricon will have Kimetsu above OP.
     
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    B-Dubs said:
    Isn't JUMP itself saying One Piece had the higher sales?
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    It's complicated

    I'm gonna try and do another TL;DR:
    -Jump didn't say this, the One Piece editor did, in an interview
    -There is also a translation issue: he was referring to the number of volumes in circulation when Oricon tracks sell-through data.
    -He likely did said interview a month before the end of the tracking period, back when One Piece did have more copies in print that Demon Slayer, this quickly changed. Even Shueisha says so with their announcements, here are the Demon Slayer circulation numbers, from Shueisha themselves:
    2018/11/26 3 Million
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    2019/09/29 12 Million​
    2019/10/17 14 Million​
    2019/10/23 16 Million​
    2019/11/21 20 Million​
    2019/11/26 25 Million​

    But if you really want to know more, I suggest reading what ManganiMY wrote, it's in the threadmark​
     
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    alexi52 said:
    But didn't Shūeisha say One Piece was number 1 this year?
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    Oda commented on his Twitter about this.

    They're saying One Piece had the highest individual volume sales this year, not the most volume sales this year.

    Kimetsu no Yaiba is #1 with overall sales, One Piece is #1 with individual volume sales.

    They're using a different metric to determine victory.
     
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    Zanmato said:
    Individual volume sales, not overall highest.

    Each One Piece volume sold over two million. KnY's individual volume sales are just now hitting one million each.

    However, KnY sold more volumes overall, even though the individual volume sales are lower.
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    Sadly, this explanation doesn't hold up when they announced numbers: 12.7 million for One Piece and 10.8m for Demon Slayer. Those aren't individual volume sales

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    I don't see any comment from Oda on https://twitter.com/Eiichiro_Staff or https://twitter.com/opcom_info
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    Here
     
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    Rouk' said:
    Sadly, this explanation doesn't hold up when they announced numbers: 12.7 million for One Piece and 10.8m for Demon Slayer. Those aren't individual volume sales


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    Which is likely due to human error. I'm a mod on MH, so I'm fully aware of this situation and have been talking with analysts about it for over a day now.

    Someone was using old sales data in regards to KnY, not up-to-date.
     
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    MetroidPrimeRib said:
    Promised Neverland is ending (supposedly) and so is Demon Slayer (also supposedly I dont read it)

    If you look back at when Naruto, Full Metal Alchemist or Death Note were ending they all got boosts. In Demon Slayer's case, the new volumes aren't selling even close to One Piece's new volumes. Whats happening is people buying the back catalog, which can multiply sales by a multitude.

    One Piece obviously isn't over, but when what would become the first half of the manga was ending in a massive arc the sales turned out like this -

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    Thats mostly back catalog.
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    Bleach must have taken quite the tumble to let Fairy Tail get in front of it.
     
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