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Origins' Sonic 3 won't include all songs from the original game; will be replaced by recreated 1993 soundtrack with help from Jun Senoue
- Thread starter The Deleter
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Damn, although its shame, they're saying they're recreating the music to be as faithful to the originals as possible, so maybe they'll be great! I'm really eager to hear them.
I've heard some fans do incredible work using the same chips and samples for games from Genesis/SNES to faithfully recreate the tracks in much better quality (Donkey Kong Country series in particular has at least two different people who did that meticulous work and it's awesome) but I'm not sure if that's what's going on here or they're trying to be faithful to the sound and "feel" but not the actual composition.
I really wish this would be sorted out at some point but, yeah, we're never going to get the original sountrack in a modern release of the game.
Expected but also I'm very interested in hearing these new replacement tracks.
While presenting the original music would have been the best solution, this doesn't sound like a bad result. Of course we won't know for sure until we play for ourselves.
While presenting the original music would have been the best solution, this doesn't sound like a bad result. Of course we won't know for sure until we play for ourselves.
This doesn't confirm anything though. It could still be the original music released in the game remastered/redone with different voice samples.
Expected, ain't even mad
But I did have slight pause at Senoue because I remember his work on sonic 4, but that's not really a fair comparison here.
But I did have slight pause at Senoue because I remember his work on sonic 4, but that's not really a fair comparison here.
At first I took that to mean Sunoue is recreating the problem songs from the final game, but are we taking "originally composed in 1993" is to mean the completely different beta songs later used in the Windows port?
Admittedly neither Carnival Night nor Launch Base are huge favourites for me but Ice Cap is an all time great, would be a shame to see that go :( though aye, the originals will be modded into the PC version within seconds, and I think it's a clever idea to get Sunoe involved for the replacements
Admittedly neither Carnival Night nor Launch Base are huge favourites for me but Ice Cap is an all time great, would be a shame to see that go :( though aye, the originals will be modded into the PC version within seconds, and I think it's a clever idea to get Sunoe involved for the replacements
Unfortunate, but:
- If this is the price to be paid to enable this actually won't just disappear for over a decade again, that's fine to me and
- It'll just be modded back into the PC version anyway. Hell, probably on Switch too, via homebrew.
- If this is the price to be paid to enable this actually won't just disappear for over a decade again, that's fine to me and
- It'll just be modded back into the PC version anyway. Hell, probably on Switch too, via homebrew.
Not sure about ocremix, but it should all be on bandcamp... can't remember the name of one of the artists unfortunately, but I bought another on vinyl, by Sam Miller. Here's his recreation of DKC2 which most people seem to love (edit: whoops I linked DKC1 lol, check out Aquatic Ambiance anyway)
They can't use a number of tracks, because they were created by Michael Jackson for use in-game. I'm presuming that Jun Senoue will create their own versions of said tracks and include them in-game.
Awesome, I look forward to checking it out. Thanks!Not sure about ocremix, but it should all be on bandcamp... can't remember the name of one of the artists unfortunately, but I bought another on vinyl, by Sam Miller. Here's his recreation of DKC2, which most people seem to love:
I'm glad this was confirmed before release. I'll wait for a price drop and PC mod before buying.
Is this like when Taylor Swift re-recorded her music because she didn't own the originals or some weird legal shit like that?
Ice Cap won't be the same. It's lame Sega couldn't do a permanent deal to get all the tracks in, especially since they will likely want to re-release the games again in the future. It would have been cool to have multiple music selection options.
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Could be either, "faithful" meaning the original compositions, or "faithful" meaning the general sound of the genesis itself. We'll have to wait and see I suppose.
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The silver lining at least is that we'll get "new" Jun Senoue tracks out of this. Very curious to see what the songs will sound like polished up. Really hoping that a lot of work goes into Launch Base Act 1, the original prototype version of the song is just not good at all.
That's like one miss out of a ton of soundtracks that he's absolutely killed it on, it's absolutely not fair.
Even then a lot of the Sonic 4 songs are actually well composed, they just use a terrible soundfont. Like hearing this Splash Hill remix by Tee Lopes back in the day was eye-opening, the song actually rocks when it's not being heard through artificial farts:
That's like one miss out of a ton of soundtracks that he's absolutely killed it on, it's absolutely not fair.
Even then a lot of the Sonic 4 songs are actually well composed, they just use a terrible soundfont. Like hearing this Splash Hill remix by Tee Lopes back in the day was eye-opening, the song actually rocks when it's not being heard through artificial farts:
Not a deal killer, but not a surprise either. Not surprised they waited until almost the last minute to tell us either...
She says that the issue is that certain sounds couldn't be used, and that Jun is reworking the tracks from the original compositions. So it sounds like they're reworking the music to replace certain disputed samples.
There's actually a new interview from a few days ago where Brad Buxer says MJ did work on one song, but basically had nothing else to do with the game. Brad and the other collaborators did everything themselves.
I wonder what the real reason for using different music is.
Thanks, these are better versions.
But they're inferior to the MJ tracks in every way.
I always liked how the Wii version of Episode 1 having to use smaller more compressed samples to fit the game's filesize limit on Wiiware actually ended up making that version of the soundtrack sound marginally better.
I mean, it could be that Jun is making entirely new tracks in the vein of the Genesis songs, or he's reworking the proto tracks since they were never actually finished before being replaced.
I am curious to see what actually happens here.
please no OC Remix lol, ugh, no
But yeah, its cool that the songs won't be there; there isn't much that can be done about it, at least the game will be intact and released proper on this engine
Felt inevitable considering how quiet they were being about 3&K in general. Interesting compromise at least, even if it's likely the beta/PC tracks touched up.
We all saw this coming. It shouldn't be a surprise. The surprise will be how close it is to the original to workaround the legal issues.
