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Climate Change Fight |OT|
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Report today that millions of people could be dying from events driven by climate change as soon as 2040 and we finally hit 150 posts in here.
A good day .
A good day .
Well the thread about the IPCC report has nearly everyone in it resigning to defeat already despite having 11 years to hit the goal so what does anyone expect? This is a very negative place, unfortunately. We have 11 years to work on the following:
- Clean, renewable energy initiatives.
- Replacing gasoline powered transport, both public and private, with zero-emission electric options.
- Develop solutions to pull carbon out of the air in a high enough quantity to nullify new emissions and when we hit a net-zero at some point maybe even reverse some of the damage.
Many nations and companies are already committed to working on all of the above, and the longer we're at it the better the solution will end up.
I remain optimistic that enough positive change will happen between now and 2030 to avoid the worst of it. We're at a stage that most will admit, myself included, we should have never come to. But now that some of the effects are starting to hit home it should shake complacency and real, impactful work should start getting done relatively soon.
I live in a California suburb, but the piss poor range is adequate for 90% of my needs. I have a 30 mile commute and won't use even 50% of the battery most days. It truly depends on your needs. The times I've traveled out of its range, I was fortunate enough to have quick charging available on my routes.
I know that other states have limited infrastructure, but because of their restrictions, both perceived and actual, they are dirt cheap on the used market.
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If you haven't already, I'd really suggest investing in a smart thermostat.
Allowing you to easily monitor and control your largest energy consumption is a huge boost.
I've gotten it down to barely a fraction of use it would normally be.
I know "dumb" thermostats can be programmed but they're a huge hassle and you cant track real use very easy. Being able to see wattage and time spent running is big.
Every little bit helps.
Allowing you to easily monitor and control your largest energy consumption is a huge boost.
I've gotten it down to barely a fraction of use it would normally be.
I know "dumb" thermostats can be programmed but they're a huge hassle and you cant track real use very easy. Being able to see wattage and time spent running is big.
Every little bit helps.
Awesome thread, kudos OP.
I have my own solar panels, grow my own vegetables and use public transport (Traffic is terrible here, so it makes sense) almost all the time, but when I go in vacations.
Even if we do a little we are all helping so dont give up even if the other people dont think you are crazy.
I have my own solar panels, grow my own vegetables and use public transport (Traffic is terrible here, so it makes sense) almost all the time, but when I go in vacations.
Even if we do a little we are all helping so dont give up even if the other people dont think you are crazy.
I'm gonna do what I can to help.
I couldn't get an all-electric car, but I have a hybrid and a don't even drive it that much so I only fill it up ever 2 months or so. I'm gonna try and keep electronics and heating off during the day, and I'll see if I can't cut down on my meat.
Speaking of meat, that's gonna be the hardest for me because I love it. Can anyone recommend any standout meat replacements meals/products?
Or is there like a tier list of which meats are worse for the environment so I could just eat more of the less harmful ones?
I couldn't get an all-electric car, but I have a hybrid and a don't even drive it that much so I only fill it up ever 2 months or so. I'm gonna try and keep electronics and heating off during the day, and I'll see if I can't cut down on my meat.
Speaking of meat, that's gonna be the hardest for me because I love it. Can anyone recommend any standout meat replacements meals/products?
Or is there like a tier list of which meats are worse for the environment so I could just eat more of the less harmful ones?
Even if you don't want to go vegan - at least immediately. Cut down on meat, dairy and driving. If everyone did this then we'd see fast improvements. I guess this is gonna be hardest in countries like the US, probably even more so now you've got a climate change denier as president.
Yep, at least being conscious of it and reducing is great. Humans don't need to eat meat everyday (or arguably at all). The dairy industry is also fucking cruel.
Yep, at least being conscious of it and reducing is great. Humans don't need to eat meat everyday (or arguably at all). The dairy industry is also fucking cruel.
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I agree about meat, we should cut it a lot.
My father was a small farmer. His cows were living a good life overall. They always had quality food available, got treated quickly when sick, and were allowed to go outside all day long during the summer.
Of course there are the quick veal separations and now cows don't go outside as much in big farms... There is the pressure of productivity to keep prices low.
Still they were living in better condition than half of the human population.
Oh aye I'm not talking about small farmers with few animals. I'm talking about the gigantic, overcrowded farms. It's not just chickens that live in battery farms. The scale and number of those sorts of farms is shocking, and it's due to the mass market for meat and dairy. At some point people are going to have to choose between less beef or natural disasters.
I agree.
Unfortunately I think we'll need a catastrophic climate event in the US before serious action/legislation takes place.
On the subject of meat, it's our ace in the hole. With the meat industry being the biggest contributor to green house gasses an international over night ban on meat production and consumption would solve the problem.
Of course there are serious problems with that solution. But as a last resort...
What should I do considering I love beef? I like to cook steak/Beef stew and burgers. Also is chicken as much a problem as beef?
Ooooh that looks promising! Thanks for the heads up!
Ooooh that looks promising! Thanks for the heads up!
I already use public transportation as much as I can (thank God for the metro system in Medellin), but I'll be cutting on meat consumption and will promote diet change within my house. Won't be much by comparison, but every effort counts.
What I read, chicken is way less of a problem from the emission point of view.
So replacing all beef products might already help a lot.
Someone in this thread mentioned Cowspiracy. The documentary. It is described pretty well in there.
Also in the DiCaprio documentary the conclusion was: if you want to have the biggest impact with just changing one thing: don't eat beef.
I try going vegan since I watched Cowspiracy. But struggle a lot.
Lol at 'don't have kids'. It's not your business to tell people that, fuck off with that nonsense. Instead of the usual tut tutting about kids, why not take a different approach and talk about improving not only your environmental consciousness, but raising kids to share those views. Kids learn from their parents, and if we want to have a generation of people who are really fighting for the environment, it's up to you as a parent to teach your kids that they can make a positive difference in the future of the world by doing something as simple as passing on the hamburger and opting for the chicken nuggets instead.
That specific example may not look like a lot, but if you've got a whole generation of kids thinking that way, suddenly it's actually pretty helpful.
Adopt kids or have your own, the species dies without them. It's up to the people adopting or raising their own to raise them in such a way that there's no question about the reality of climate change, and deniers have no place in power. If you don't want kids, great! There's literally nothing wrong with that. Instead of sitting there acting like you're better than others because you're not contributing to climate change by having kids, talk to your friends with kids, talk about making things better for everyone environmentally, get them on board with things like cutting meat down, that'll spread to their kids and they'll grow up environmentally conscious.
Obviously it's not that easy, but it's a much better approach than the typical "don't have kids".
That specific example may not look like a lot, but if you've got a whole generation of kids thinking that way, suddenly it's actually pretty helpful.
Adopt kids or have your own, the species dies without them. It's up to the people adopting or raising their own to raise them in such a way that there's no question about the reality of climate change, and deniers have no place in power. If you don't want kids, great! There's literally nothing wrong with that. Instead of sitting there acting like you're better than others because you're not contributing to climate change by having kids, talk to your friends with kids, talk about making things better for everyone environmentally, get them on board with things like cutting meat down, that'll spread to their kids and they'll grow up environmentally conscious.
Obviously it's not that easy, but it's a much better approach than the typical "don't have kids".
My parents have a huge garden where they grow tons of stuff and don't use ferilizers and only rain water.
Try not to generalize things.
The real joke here is not being able to afford kids! Amirite fellow millennials? :)
My jokes aside, cut meat consumption as much as possible (or go vegan/vegetarian), try to use cars as little as possible, use solar/green energy as much as possible.
The issue here isn't really humanity dying out but that we fuck up this planet beyond repair.
About that CO2 extraction, wouldn't it be a start to just plant a shitload of trees? I mean that worked in the past.
Well it is an issue if we die out... since I guess we want to continue existing?
Yes and no, one of the main issues is that a lot of the grounds that are able to sustain these trees have been wiped clean for animal agriculture (both the farms and swaths of rain forrest to grow food for these animals).
Electricity is another big thing, Count Trumpula insists on going back on coal *cough*campaign money*cough* and in China/India they're building moar coal plants to meet the demand due all the factories and rising populations.
Not sure if we can plant enough trees to fight that increase in emmisions.
Solar and wind energy is something that needs to be invested in more and more, and subsidies on that instead of shit that is ruining the planet (fossil fuels, animal agriculture).
I would say nuclear power is a good power source, at least if you plan where to build these and that you build high quality plants.
The best, short term solution (like before fusion), would be efficient solar panels, but we are not there yet, and won't work so well in some countries (hello eternal darkness).
The best, short term solution (like before fusion), would be efficient solar panels, but we are not there yet, and won't work so well in some countries (hello eternal darkness).
Look into seitan, it's really versatile and people are doing incredible things with it now. I've been making this basic recipe every week to do meal prep with - https://avocadosandales.com/2017/12/17/chickwheat-shreds/. It's incredibly versatile, can shred it and chuck chunks of it in a curry or stew, or thinly slice it and use it like sandwich meat, or even fry it up like bacon. Once you have the basic recipe down, you can start to play with the spices to change the flavour. Add poultry seasoning to make it more "chickeny" or pork seasoning to get a pork vibe etc. On it's own it probably won't fool anyone as the spices give a sort of hint of the meat you're aiming to replicate rather than being exactly like it, but in terms of texture it's pretty great. I've made curries where people have honestly though they were eating chicken.
I'm not really worried about our survival as a species at the moment though. We are one of the last to die out on this planet and we would literally need to turn earth into a barren wasteland for that to happen.
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Planting trees is good, it helps with carbon capture. It won't solve the problem on it's own though, but more trees means we buy time for the green energy switch.
Clothing : Found this a few years ago, the quality is good, the shirts are pretty comfortable and they plant 10 trees everytime you buy one : https://www.tentree.ca/
Look at the OP, there is a chart for meat.
Clothing : Found this a few years ago, the quality is good, the shirts are pretty comfortable and they plant 10 trees everytime you buy one : https://www.tentree.ca/
Look at the OP, there is a chart for meat.
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And there's still the very current issue of waste management. I'm all for nuclear power compared to emissions heavy sources, but this is still an issue, with very long term effects.
Yes, forgot to add that.
Need a good and long long LONG term solution for that.
Nuclear waste is not a today's problem
A nice post explaining how little waste there is compared to the size of a power plant.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/...thing_that_sounds_extremely_wrong_but/dtqd9ey
A long-term solution:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onkalo_spent_nuclear_fuel_repository
Please, please, please do not focus on nuclear waste, climate change is a HUGE problem, nuclear waste management is insignificant compared to the climate change problem we face today.
Well, since the storage solution need to be able to handle the waste for a long long LONG time, it still need to be handled.
But yes, nuclear power is the best thing
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I'm so happy to have found this thread!
I am becoming a vegan, have decided to adopt instead of making children, and bike everywhere, which isn't easy because I live in an old people city (Victoria, BC) where citizen movements have stopped the city hall from creating more bike lanes and are about to elect people who will remove the few ones we have. Here, the aggressivity of many car drivers towards bikes is insane. Coming from Spain, I knew things here would be worse for bikes, but I never imagined it would be this backward.
Also, I'm writing an article about the environmental impact of gaming and what are the greenest ways of enjoying this hobby. I'll probably create a thread about it soon for everyone to discuss.
I am becoming a vegan, have decided to adopt instead of making children, and bike everywhere, which isn't easy because I live in an old people city (Victoria, BC) where citizen movements have stopped the city hall from creating more bike lanes and are about to elect people who will remove the few ones we have. Here, the aggressivity of many car drivers towards bikes is insane. Coming from Spain, I knew things here would be worse for bikes, but I never imagined it would be this backward.
Also, I'm writing an article about the environmental impact of gaming and what are the greenest ways of enjoying this hobby. I'll probably create a thread about it soon for everyone to discuss.
It's crazy to think we had the solution for over half a century but after a couple decades decided it wasn't worth investing in to improve the technology and handle the waste. Dealing with climate change will cost us a thousandfold + many millions of lives.
Anyone who argues that nuclear waste isn't a tiny problem compared to climate change has no idea what we're up against.
Anyone who argues that nuclear waste isn't a tiny problem compared to climate change has no idea what we're up against.
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That sounds really interesting! I'm already looking forward to it, although I fear much of the response will be "man, I dunno if I could back down my gaming habits by *that* much..." (and I'm not counting myself out from that, heh)
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Okay, lol. If someone was trying to get a short doc series of the ground of short tales about people already living through notable effects of global warming. What would be some interesting topics that are off the beaten track?
Like living in a city with extreme air pollution like Beijing with asthma (not necessarily climate change). Living in an area that's suddenly prone to forest fires. The tale of a storm chaser chasing ever more powerful storms. etc.
Things like that.
Like living in a city with extreme air pollution like Beijing with asthma (not necessarily climate change). Living in an area that's suddenly prone to forest fires. The tale of a storm chaser chasing ever more powerful storms. etc.
Things like that.
Thanks! The article will be written in Spanish but it there's interest I might translate it. I am not planning on asking people to game less but rather compare the environmental cost of physical vs download vs streaming, the difference between playing by day or at night depending on what kind of energy you are provided, the difference in CO2 emissions during development (a AAA game is much more polluting to make, but it also serves millions of people with one single development). Things like that. I want to compile some info for the OP before I create the thread, but I'll make sure to post a link here :)
As it happens, I went exclusively digital for Switch earlier this summer for unrelated reasons, but I haven't thought of it like that! I'll definitely keep that in mind.
For my first step in reducing personal emissions, I've begun evaluating my media consumption and weighing the costs of digital vs physical. As it happens, going digital isn't as 100% clean as I thought, as we leave carbon footprints via energy consumption (apparently even just one tweet emits carbon; yikes!)
Of course, practically everything these days releases carbon, so there's no use in paralyzing ourselves in fear. Point is, I'm curious if there's any experts here on the subject of digital vs physical in relation to environment. I mentioned before I'm gradually going digital on games, but I'm heavily considering doing the same for movies and series on iTunes, as Apple seems to be making strides in providing green energy (despite dissenters like this Forbes article, although it's written by a known climate change denier).
Of course, practically everything these days releases carbon, so there's no use in paralyzing ourselves in fear. Point is, I'm curious if there's any experts here on the subject of digital vs physical in relation to environment. I mentioned before I'm gradually going digital on games, but I'm heavily considering doing the same for movies and series on iTunes, as Apple seems to be making strides in providing green energy (despite dissenters like this Forbes article, although it's written by a known climate change denier).
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This is so nuts in the US. You have to ask to not get a straw...
You can/should also avoid single use cups. Like at Starbucks or so.
You can bring your own reuseable and they will refill it. Works for hot and cold drinks.
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Ooh, how is not in my watched threads already?
*watches thread*
As for what I've been doing to fight climate change we've replaced all the lightbulbs in the house with LEDs, and even then I've been making an effort to keep the lights off as much as possible. I shut down my computer when I'm going to bed or when I know I'm going to be away from the house for an extended period of time. When I do laundry, I do it about once a week, and always with cold water. My showers usually take less than ten minutes. I've been cutting back on meats as much as possible. And finally, I intend to vote in the midterms next month, as well as future elections.
*watches thread*
As for what I've been doing to fight climate change we've replaced all the lightbulbs in the house with LEDs, and even then I've been making an effort to keep the lights off as much as possible. I shut down my computer when I'm going to bed or when I know I'm going to be away from the house for an extended period of time. When I do laundry, I do it about once a week, and always with cold water. My showers usually take less than ten minutes. I've been cutting back on meats as much as possible. And finally, I intend to vote in the midterms next month, as well as future elections.
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