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Out Magazine: Marvel’s Chairman Isaac Perlmutter Is Also Donald Trump’s Largest Donor
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Hey if you want to boycott something then by all means boycott it, just don't use something as flimsy as 'this guy gets profits from his Disney stocks CANCEL DISNEY!' As the reason why and try to pick Up 'resist' points.
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Boycotting Disney is never a bad move, I don't see why this is supposedly a particularly bad reason.
Where?
The title says the largest, but the actual article says one of the largest (and the OP quotes that part too..).
But this has basically happened already. As mentioned earlier, since 2016 he's not had creative control over Marvel anymore because of how involved he's been in Republican politics and he basically survives off the stock. And if you are going to punish companies based off merely who owns stock in them, well thats going to be a long list of companies.
Not that I think Perlmutter is a good human being or anything, he's not. I just don't believe there is much to be done to de-power him within Disney when that largely has already been done.
It's not really about the creative control though, it's about him directly profiting from this, more so than some rando shareholder.
This is on Out Magazine, obviously they selected the headline for the clicks/outrage.
I think it's more so a test of consistency, since Era in general favors boycotts over a ton of stuff based on alt right/conservative policy or money(as they should), yet Era also loves its Marvel.
It's just interesting to watch, from the point of view of us who don't give a crap about Marvel/comics. I don't even have anything against Marvel - or rather I didn't until now.
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ProPublica in 2018 reported that Perlmutter secretly worked with Trump on his administration policies:
https://www.propublica.org/article/...oskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va
https://www.propublica.org/article/...oskowitz-marc-sherman-shadow-rulers-of-the-va
Didn't Perlmutter have some shady ties to the VA through Trump? There was investigation going on into it. What would happen if Perlmutter, down the line, gets arrested? Can you hold that much power over a company while in jail, or do you have to forfeit your position and power? Given the shit he's seeminly done, that seems like a best case scenario.
If I had my way, all these corrupt fuckers would get nabbed out of society where they can't do any harm. Lock 'em ALL UP!
If I had my way, all these corrupt fuckers would get nabbed out of society where they can't do any harm. Lock 'em ALL UP!
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I know petitions alone don't do much but they do get headlines if they blow up, please sign this. My name isn't tied to it at all so I don't benefit at all, this is just something I feel strongly about. http://chng.it/XPQqGyCh
Does this actually happen? I've seen it once or twice, but not nearly often enough that it strikes me as being a thing.
I feel like overwhelmingly, what I tend to see is that one person says they're not going to buy something and then a whole bunch of others come in to say why they shouldn't or how, in fact, you're a bad person for not buying it - although no one actually asked the latter person to do or not do anything. There was no organized boycott, it was just somebody making a purchasing decision.
Similarly, I've had a few cases where people go into a thread about some product by some asshole and say that they're unable to even discuss the product, but they never actually made any effort to do so at first and other people are already discussing the product in the thread.
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I'm sure they'll be people saying they will.
Anyway, you can't act surprised at this news. Wealthy person supporting Trump on single issue lower taxes. Color me shocked. Fuck him.
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Anything less than a full boycott of every individual Trump donor and Trump voter is active support of Nazism and white supremacy.
I definitely feel that the reaction here would be vastly different if the chairman of another company were to be a trump donor and advisor.
Maybe the problem isn't with it being a "gotcha", but why you feel got.
There were stories that people at Marvel were terrified of him given how angry and unpredictable he could be.
You just know he's a Trump supporter even if you don't know he's a Trump supporter.
You just know he's a Trump supporter even if you don't know he's a Trump supporter.
This is the big fish here. Unelected, unappointed, unworthy power brokers fucking an already fucked-heavy institution. Hugely bipartisan issue but there cant' be any traction to it...
Understand though that most Marvel fans here are just MCU fans and Marvel Studios isn't under this guy.
people have been waiting for ike to die since like the toy biz days - he's been known as a shitty human being forever now, and the trump stuff likewise known. that creepy pic stands out because dude prides himself in staying out of the public eye, while doing everything he can to ruin things around him
^this
anyone wanting a boycott for this is ignoring what's been known for years
oooof
i really wish they would've taken more heat for this. CB should've been out of a job.
^this
anyone wanting a boycott for this is ignoring what's been known for years
oooof
i really wish they would've taken more heat for this. CB should've been out of a job.
Imagine if Horn had taken Perlmutters side when Feige said he didn't want to work for him anymore...*shudders*
For that, they had no one else who wanted the EiC job.
IW-Endgame would have just been one film and Captain Marvel would have been a guy. and oh the Inhumans push would have happened.
It's really not that hard to not buy some comics and watch a few movies. Why the incredulity? Is it impossible to imagine someone with enough discipline to skip over those things?
This and this weird anti-purity stance... "If I'm not willing to give up something I like for my beliefs, no one else will either and if they do it's obviously a lie to sound cool!"
Yeah it's a bit comical. I mean boycotting Marvel for me is as easy as just going about my daily routine.
But isn't this basically the same situation with Chick-fil-a where the founder is a bigot, but isn't really involved with running the company?
But on the other hand, we got X-Men now so we're going to let this slide.
sad but true
for real? it looks like a nightmare job, yeah, but i figure solid work in comics has gotta be crazy competitive
A lot people say EiC is the last job you get in comics unless you get lucky
That's fine and I understand, but I don't see any of the still numerous comic fans on this board willing to boycott the side of things he is directly associated with either.
Nobody is forced to boycott anyone of course, but I hope those that do at least stay consistent.
hard to argue with that; im trying to think of EIC's post roy thomas that went on to do other things
Yeah, he's basically on the same boat as Sugiyama as in they're both terrible human beings that their respective companies (Disney/Marvel and Square-Enix) just can't get rid of easily.
We're basically gonna have to wait until they eventually kick the bucket to be free of their shit.
We're basically gonna have to wait until they eventually kick the bucket to be free of their shit.
the "consistency" argument is kinda shit most times, though
like, i put more energy to boycotting things on the BDS list than i do, say, walmart - the former is an international solidarity movement, the latter is a a huge market that's close and cheap (because they destroyed most of their competition). the moral reasons, as well as the logistical ones, are quite different, and this context matters.
likewise with our biggest grocery chain having a huge trump supporting heiress who doesn't sit on any boards or affect policy at said chain. ike is the same here - as a comics fan, yeah, i wish he'd croak or otherwise move on already (read the link posted earlier, he was entirely shitty to staff long before all this), but im going to stop reading the entire line because of a figurehead who has no say in the product for years now? nah
Comic book movie people aren't gonna boycott anything related to it and definitely aren't gonna "shame " you for not boycotting them
He would "save money" by forcing employees to take computer paper and rip them by hand to create note cards.
demanding some kind of perfect consistency among people choosing not to purchase things is the same old "you're critical of capitalism yet you participate in it, how curious" song and dance we've been through thousands of times
Hail Hydra indeedNot surprised, especially after seeing this old evil looking photo a while back.
Finally, an overzealous ERA boycott I can get behind!
Lol
You are right, but then not boycotting a chain you shop at for life essentials because they as you said yourself destroyed most of their competition is also not the same as not boycotting an entertainment brand like Marvel. Comics and just by one brand at that shouldn't be difficult to cut out of their lives for anyone.
Not really. Being asked to boycott select companies is not at all the same as being asked to boycott all of them. One of these is easy to do, the other impossible.
The sooner Dump and Ike/The Red Skull are both out on their ass, the better.
Two of the most reviled scumbags around.
Two of the most reviled scumbags around.
Era didn't boycott WWE after all the shit they did (and do), nobody's gonna boycott Marvel.
Why? Did you boycott all FOX movies since the CEO's and Board of Directors were all about that FOX News?