Outer Wilds confirmed EpicStore timed exclusive after luring crowdfundees with a steamrelease. [see EGS guidelines]

Hektor · May 12, 2019

Not to be confused with Obsidians "Outer Worlds" (which is also EpicStore exclusive)

"Outer Wilds will first be released on XBox One and on PC via the Epic Games Store with additional platforms coming later"

https://www.reddit.com/r/outerwilds/comments/bn4jfe/epic_store_timed_exclusive_confirmed/
https://www.fig.co/campaigns/outer-wilds/updates/912?media_id=i75

Original crowdfunding campaign:

Second crowdfunding game to do this after Phoenix Point.

sambills · May 12, 2019

"currently, we're planning to" isnt "we are going to"

GMM · May 12, 2019

Do any of those crowdfunding sites have options to demand a refund if the manufacturer willingly states they are unwilling to deliver the advertised product?

JustJavi · May 12, 2019

You can try to cancel your pledge:

https://help.fig.co/hc/en-us/articles/207030758-How-do-I-edit-or-cancel-my-pledge-?mobile_site=true

Futterish · May 12, 2019

Shame on them for not time traveling to the year 2019 to learn that a new competitor would offer them better revenue share.

SHAAAAAAAAME

mrglcs · May 12, 2019

I was interested, not anymore.

Unkindled · May 12, 2019

Epic making use of that Fortnite money.

SteveWinwood · May 12, 2019

they get so much cash that every crowd funder could ask for their money back and they'd still be ahead

of course that's only short term. why anyone on earth would ever back another project by them ever again i wouldn't understand.

also it's always good to see them entice linux users and then just cut them out of the fold for moneys sake alone

sheaaaa · May 12, 2019

Outer Wilds is anAnnapurna published game and they have been majorly in bed with EGS.

I recall Outer Wilds devs saying in Discord or somewhere, after the EGS first launched, that their game would still be on Steam.

Shame as I've been looking forward to this one since the free alpha more than 5 years ago. What's waiting another year?

ThereAreFourNaan · May 12, 2019

sambills said:
"currently, we're planning to" isnt "we are going to"

In the context of the sentence immediately following it, that reads as "currently we plan only a steam release on PC, but hope to also bring it other places later". Not "we plan to do a steam release but maybe we won't actually do a steam release until 12 months after launch".

AxeVince · May 12, 2019

EGS barely existed if not was inexistant at the time, no wonder plans can change.
"Planning to" does not indicate a clear future.
Game dev is expensive and KS money is peanuts for any game project where a decent salary is expected, if that is what they needed to get enough money to pay their devs and release the game, no problem here.

SteveWinwood · May 12, 2019

PaladinXII said:
Shame on them for not time traveling to the year 2019 to learn that a new competitor would offer them better revenue share.

SHAAAAAAAAME

you know they could offer it there in addition to somewhere else and then also receive that benefit if the customer cares to use the service themselves

tuxfool · May 12, 2019

sheaaaa said:
that their game would still be on Steam

Likely, a year later. However, you'd be required to take the word of somebody that already reneged on a previous commitment.

Eolz · May 12, 2019

Phoenix Point did refunds at least. Wonder if they'll do so there too.

Adamska · May 12, 2019

Yeah, it's not like they could've predicted EGS would offer them a better deal.

DNAbro · May 12, 2019

I 100% got confused with Outer Worlds. That's shitty to do.

Amiablepercy · May 12, 2019

sambills said:
"currently, we're planning to" isnt "we are going to"

Explaining something simple like this to those chuckleheads so deeply offended by this Epic development is like trying to teach a frog fractions.

R dott B · May 12, 2019

I guess I'll get used to the Epic store.

Pryme · May 12, 2019

SteveWinwood said:
you know they could offer it there in addition to somewhere else and then also receive that benefit if the customer cares to use the service themselves

You know the money from Epic only comes in exchange for some form of exclusivity ?

JustJavi · May 12, 2019

I wonder how all these time exclusive EpicStore games will perform on Steam in a year time.

ThereAreFourNaan · May 12, 2019

PaladinXII said:
Shame on them for not time traveling to the year 2019 to learn that a new competitor would offer them better revenue share.

SHAAAAAAAAME

Yes, these developers are all just coincidentally deciding to be very specifically 12 months exclusive (or 6 months for Borderlands) because of the revenue share difference. And they're not putting their game on other stores and launchers that also offer lower revenue splits. For 12 months precisely. Definitely no other motivation and no deals involved.

AmbientRuin · May 12, 2019

Hopefully Nintendo Sony and Microsoft follow suit and pull all their games out of retail. Used game sales are bad for business

LewieP · May 12, 2019

I sure hope they offer refunds to backers who paid expecting this to be on Steam.

SteveWinwood · May 12, 2019

Pryme said:
You know the money from Epic only comes in exchange for some form of exclusivity ?

oh that's weird so it's not about the revenue split is what you're saying

water_wendi · May 12, 2019

Promises to investors/patrons should not be broken lightly. If you cant make a deal with Epic that satisfies your current obligations you dont make the deal.

DanteMenethil · May 12, 2019

sambills said:
"currently, we're planning to" isnt "we are going to"

Velocity:Design:Comfort · May 12, 2019

how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

ThereAreFourNaan · May 12, 2019

Pryme said:
You know the money from Epic only comes in exchange for some form of exclusivity ?

Yes, but that was not what the person he responded to was commenting on. They talked about the revenue split, not the exclusivity deal payment.

Helacious said:
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Read both sentences, not just those few words. They're saying they're currently planning a Steam relese but might also go somewhere else after Steam. They are not saying that there is any doubt about there being a Steam release; that is the baseline minimum they suggest and it's going to other platforms that they are referring to as things they may not do.

Vault · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

and people who handed them money have the right to tell them to fuck off

Wereroku · May 12, 2019

LewieP said:
I sure hope they offer refunds to backers who paid expecting this to be on Steam.

None of the rewards offered stream keys just a digital copy of the game. They covered their ass no one could claim they were promised a steam key.

skeezx · May 12, 2019

JustJavi said:
I wonder how all these time exclusive EpicStore games will perform on Steam in a year time.

i would assume sales of any game on steam is largely backloaded beyond its first year when discounts start (which, will there even be "Epic sales"?) so probably business as usual, more or less

GrantDaNasty · May 12, 2019

If they won't have a Steam release by launch, backers should have the right to demand their pledge funds back.

Wrellie · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

Every single game that comes out on EGS. Sometimes more than one.

manchego obfuscator · May 12, 2019

I thought it was already confirmed as an EGS exclusive months ago given whatever deal they seem to have with Annapurna, but that's pretty shitty.

sirap · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

I'm used to bad takes from trolls but this is something else lol

Poseidon · May 12, 2019

GrantDaNasty said:
If they won't have a Steam release by launch, backers should have the right to demand their pledge funds back.

Why? They are not promising that anywhere on their page

DanteMenethil · May 12, 2019

ThereAreFourNaan said:
Yes, but that was not what the person he responded to was commenting on. They talked about the revenue split, not the exclusivity deal payment.

Read both sentences, not just those few words. They're saying they're currently planning a Steam relese but might also go somewhere else after Steam. They are not saying that there is any doubt about there being a Steam release; that is the baseline minimum they suggest and it's going to other platforms that they are referring to as things they may not do.

I read the sentence fully. That dude is still right. The plan at the time as they said themselves was a steam release with more platforms to follow that. That plan changed.

ThereAreFourNaan · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

Could you point out people in this thread who you believe are having a tantrum, or suggesting that what they have done is actually illegal / beyond the scope of their legal rights?

morningbus · May 12, 2019

sambills said:
"currently, we're planning to" isnt "we are going to"

Oh shit. He got us. Pack it up you Cleveland Steamers.

Go over to the fig funding page and learn to read the English language.

Oh.

Deleted member 10737 · May 12, 2019

oh damn, i thought this is obsidian's game
really scummy move

5taquitos · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

Is there a memory limit or something? Are we going to run out of space for new threads? New news, new thread.

TheTrain · May 12, 2019

As a backer of many projects the replies on this thread are making me uncomfortable, to say the least
Crowfounding is a matter of trust, you don't slap a platform on a game and then you do whatever you want. Being a backer isn't just clicking a button, like what the hell? Such an ignorant take, era is just a violet 4chan at this point

Arsene no Kiseki · May 12, 2019

Velocity:Design:Comfort said:
how many more threads do we really need that are essentially "I'm stamping my feet and having a tantrum because my toys are now only available somewhere else"

You didn't make the game, you just clicked a button on kick starter and somehow now feel entitled to something that was only vaguely written years ago.

They have the right to do whatever they want with it.

I love how stupid this post is. You act like these people didn't y'know pay money for this product and just clicked a button.

Gee I wonder why people who paid money for a product feel entitled to recieving said product the way they were told they would.

Fuck the linux backers amirite tho.

Scuffed · May 12, 2019

Game Backlogs are so out of control these days so it's nice of these devs to lighten the load and help me skip their game entirely.

Doskoi Panda · May 12, 2019

TheTrain said:
As a backer of many project the replies on this thread are making me uncomfortable, to say the least
Crowfounding is a matter of trust, you don't slap a platform on a game and then you do whatever you want. Being a backer isn't just clicking a button, like what the hell? Such an ignorant take.

Whatever it takes to justify Epic's presence and actions while giving it as little genuine thought as possible

Xiaomi · May 12, 2019

Oh hey I got in before the (see staff post).

This is a pretty shitty thing to do to your backers, but seems par for the course for EGS dealings. But hey, they'll have cloud saves soon, I guess.

Etrian Darkness · May 12, 2019

Backing a game isn't a preorder. Things change during development.

lucebuce · May 12, 2019

mazi said:
oh damn, i thought this is obsidian's game
really scummy move

Ironically, Obsidian's game is also an EGS exclusive for a year lol.

jimboton · May 12, 2019

Adamska said:
Yeah, it's not like they could've predicted EGS would offer them a better deal.

Indeed they offer *them* a better deal.. but a much worse deal to backers who expected to have Steam's functionality.

Etrian Darkness said:
Backing a game isn't a preorder. Things change during development.

Crowdfunding a game isn't saying whatever it takes to get as much money from backers then doing whatever you like once you have it. I hope for their sake they don't count on going on Fig/Kickstarter for another project ever again.

AmbientRuin · May 12, 2019

Epic is good and their continued exploitation of children is cool and good so long as I get to pick the skins and get the games I want. Just click the store front you fucking loser

Fortnite!

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