Overwatch isn't very diverse with its villains

[Dreams-Visions]

Goddamn, we got people gettin checked by admins.

This thread has it all.

I have no idea either

So the op wants more white people? What?

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Yea. They seem to be feeling.....











.....under-represented.

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[Giudecca]

See I'd have this opinion if they hadn't stated at several occasions that this game has 'multiple lgbt characters'. Because unless Tracer counts as 'multiple people' they've told us that there's other members of that cast that are gay or trans.
They are encouraging this shipping between the fans without confirming anything- and thats the queerbaiting. I find it infuriating!

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According to Wikipedia, this is queerbaiiting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queerbaiting

Queerbaiting is the practice (mainly in film or television writing) to hint at, but then to not actually depict, a potential same-sex romantic relationship between fictional characters. The potential romance may be ignored, explicitly rejected or made fun of.

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It's just them off-handedly mentioning the popularity of the ship. It's not hinting at their relationship in any way. Hell, they've never even met in canon.

 

[Ketkat]

Yeah, I don't get it either. If they're all mostly different minorities, how is that not diverse?

 

[sensui-tomo]

Consider this: Would it be a good look if the entire villain cast was POC?

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If the entire hero cast are POC it doesnt seem like it'd matter, but if its an all white cast it'd be suspect.
And it seems like overwatch fits into the cast being pretty diverse and not all white cast.

 

[BlkSquirtle]

I think it's also important to examine how Blizzard may have unintentionally arrived at this point due to fan demands and criticism.

One of the main criticisms of Overwatch's cast at release was that there were a lot of heroes but comparatively few villains, which people felt was very lopsided. So with the new character additions, I think Blizzard decided it was a good time to beef up the number of villains to address this criticism.

At the same time, there was a lot of praise of the diversity of the cast at release, but also disappointment that there were some groups left unrepresented or underrepresented. This was clearly a priority with the new character additions, as every single new character added has been either female, a PoC, or both.

So it's not so surprising what the end result was when you combine these two priorities.

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I think this explains your problem OP. I saw exactly what OP was talking about after I started playing Overwatch and it rubbed me a bit wrong but I realized this was because Blizzard heard fans like "Wtf where are our not white dudes and villains" so they killed two birds with one stone.

 

[Drayco21]

Villain wise we have the white Junkrat and Maori Roadhog, ruthless serial killers, racists and terrorists who are partially responsible for turning their home country into an irradiated shit heap.

We have the hispanic Sombra and Reaper, the white Widowmaker and Moira and the black Doomfist who work for an evil legion of doom.

We have the Indian Symmetra who works for a shitbag company that ruins the environment, and demolished poor communities cuz fuck the poor.

And ambiguously we have asian Hanzo, a former assassin, yakuza prince and arms dealer who killed his own brother years ago but has since left all that life behind in remorse, and is a more neutral party now.

I guess we still need an Omnic villain, but that's a damn good spread.

 

[Pirate Bae]

I mean I have more of a problem in that the majority (3 out of 5) of Team Talon are people of color, but that's just me.

 

[Rackham]

Villain wise we have the white Junkrat and Maori Roadhog, ruthless serial killers, racists and terrorists who are partially responsible for turning their home country into an irradiated shit heap.

We have the hispanic Sombra and Reaper, the white Widowmaker and Moira and the black Doomfist who work for an evil legion of doom.

We have the Indian Symmetra who works for a shitbag company that ruins the environment, and demolished poor communities cuz fuck the poor.

And ambiguously we have asian Hanzo, a former assassin, yakuza prince and arms dealer who killed his own brother years ago but has since left all that life behind in remorse, and is a more neutral party now.

I guess we still need an Omnic villain, but that's a damn good spread.

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Let me just fix title to The Overwatch villains are mostly minority.
Rowlf

 

[Copper]

Minorities are bad, so they get represented by villains in game, i don't see that strange.

Yeah, it's a pretty bad look. They should just drop the "actually bad people" and just make it so everyone do this shit for sport. It's a game.

 

[Kor of Memory]

Villain wise we have the white Junkrat and Maori Roadhog, ruthless serial killers, racists and terrorists who are partially responsible for turning their home country into an irradiated shit heap.

We have the hispanic Sombra and Reaper, the white Widowmaker and Moira and the black Doomfist who work for an evil legion of doom.

We have the Indian Symmetra who works for a shitbag company that ruins the environment, and demolished poor communities cuz fuck the poor.

And ambiguously we have asian Hanzo, a former assassin, yakuza prince and arms dealer who killed his own brother years ago but has since left all that life behind in remorse, and is a more neutral party now.

I guess we still need an Omnic villain, but that's a damn good spread.

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Not to mention the characters with shades of gray.

Zarya and Torbjorn both seem to be incredibly racist towards Omnics.

McCree seems to have no issue breaking the law when he sees fit.

76 obviously is full blown vigilante. And consider he uses an automatic rifle, this isn't a Batman scenario here.

 

[NediarPT88]

I guess we still need an Omnic villain, but that's a damn good spread.

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Hopefully that one from the Doomfist comic.

Zarya and Torbjorn both seem to be incredibly racist towards Omnics.

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Yeah, they tried to change their image a bit with the comics though.

 

[David]

So, you are asking for white people to be villains? What's your diversity quota on villains and heroes?

Do you have a hidden agenda?

 

[RockmanBN]

What evils did Tracer and Winston do?

 

[Goodstyle]

Villains are cooler than heroes though. As a minority, I'm not complaining.

 

[incogneato]

this entire thread is giving me "reverse racism"

theres a difference between re5 depictions of villainy and overwatch depictions because the latter is diversity of all types of ethnic groups and phenotypes while the former is just black = zombies

 

[Sheentak]

Sounds wierd but for diversity sake I think we need another cis white male on the villian side

 

[mas8705]

To be honest OP, I don't see this as thread whining. In fact, in a game that does focus on having such a diverse cast as it does, it is slightly ironic that we don't see a wider scope for the villains side. Of course in the case of Junkrat and Roadhog, they aren't really affiliated with Talon (much like how D.Va, Lucio and Pharah aren't affiliated with Overwatch, or at least last I checked).

Of course, you can say that Moira's inclusion has fixed that a bit, but it would be nice to see even more playable villains or antagonists in the game. Hell, I'm still waiting for this guy to show up (and I feel like it could be soon too). Sanjay is right there Blizzard. We know you are planning something with him and I can bet that when he is introduced, he is going to be featured with Lucio and Symmetra in a cinematic.

Even though the ratio has been 2 Good (Ana and Orisa) and 3 Not Good (Sombra, Doomfist and Moira), I'd like to see at least one more bad guy character just so that we can have a full six person team of "Team Talon" (even if Sombra may not be with Talon full-time, she still operates with them, so I'm counting that).