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OmniStrife

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If you're STILL craving for power rankings / OWL podcasts, here's ours at Ready Set Pwn - A Vancouver-based and focused podcast.
Link to the episode: https://www.readysetpwn.com/2019/02/power-ranked-by-science/

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optimus8936

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They're unknown, not a pre-made team like Titans nor having the rumors that the spark have.
except Titans have like 3 good players and idk what HZ being good has to do with everyone putting Atlanta bottom 5

Atlanta got the 2 best tanks not in OWL, who are most likely going to be a top 5 duo, if not top 3. They also got a top 2 or 3 main support not in OWL and Kodak is fucking insane. He was hard carrying Germany in the world cup. Erster is also insane and apparently Dafran is popping off in scrims. I see 0 reason to think they're gonna be one of the worst expansion teams.
 

Solidsnakejej

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except Titans have like 3 good players and idk what HZ being good has to do with everyone putting Atlanta bottom 5

Atlanta got the 2 best tanks not in OWL, who are most likely going to be a top 5 duo, if not top 3. They also got a top 2 or 3 main support not in OWL and Kodak is fucking insane. He was hard carrying Germany in the world cup. Erster is also insane and apparently Dafran is popping off in scrims. I see 0 reason to think they're gonna be one of the worst expansion teams.

People are just guessing based off information they know,

Titans are Runaway and people expect big things from them because of that(also reason why Dragons are high up with the runner-ups in KR contenders), HZ rumored to be really good in scrims, then the 4 mid tier teams that not a lot of info and don't know how they'll perform but they have good players, then Hunters and Justice same with the mid tier teams but players don't seem as good as the mid tier.

Also you have the many languages/accents they'll have to deal with which has prove to be a problem in the past and is why Paris is usually higher.

No one knows who is gonna be good at the end of the day.
 

EMT0

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except Titans have like 3 good players and idk what HZ being good has to do with everyone putting Atlanta bottom 5

Atlanta got the 2 best tanks not in OWL, who are most likely going to be a top 5 duo, if not top 3. They also got a top 2 or 3 main support not in OWL and Kodak is fucking insane. He was hard carrying Germany in the world cup. Erster is also insane and apparently Dafran is popping off in scrims. I see 0 reason to think they're gonna be one of the worst expansion teams.

People rank Atlanta low among the expansion teams? I usually see them ranked around ~10(and I think that's underrating them,I honestly think people put them at 10-12 off of trying to balance their lack of exposure with people's positive word of mouth)

The real underrated squad is Paris. Did people not see Kruise's bananas plays against South Korea in the World Cup, or Shadowburn drop his best performances since early OW on half the DPS roster on Team Russia? People are placing them in bottom quartet of teams and I'm left very confused.
 

ZugZug123

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Re: title change, I got Ashe on mystery heroes last night and my end of match card was Bob kills, he got more than Ashe herself. Credit to the team healers for keeping my crappy Ashe alive long enough to get 2 Bob's.
 

optimus8936

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People rank Atlanta low among the expansion teams? I usually see them ranked around ~10(and I think that's underrating them,I honestly think people put them at 10-12 off of trying to balance their lack of exposure with people's positive word of mouth)

The real underrated squad is Paris. Did people not see Kruise's bananas plays against South Korea in the World Cup, or Shadowburn drop his best performances since early OW on half the DPS roster on Team Russia? People are placing them in bottom quartet of teams and I'm left very confused.
Paris have been garbage in scrims. Like, really garbage.
 

optimus8936

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where r u seeing that Optimus?
I forget where I saw it but it's not surprising given their rough tanks and flex support. It would also line up with then being ranked low by people involved in the league. I've also heard some things from contenders coaches who have scrimmed them.

If it wasn't for Chengdu they'd have a pretty good run for worst team

Akaros is pretty well respected in the scene

 
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i-hate-u

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This is why I am not going to do power rankings. No one in the minds expected Shanghai, Gladiators, Dallas, Florida, Seoul, Boston and London to perform like how they did. That's 7 teams out of 12.

For all we know, London and NYXL could trip and random teams like Spark and Reign wipe the floor with the league.
 

Solidsnakejej

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1st day scrims pretty meh, 2nd day scrims could be hype.

Saturday, Feb. 9
Team Scrims
  • Paris Eternal vs. New York Excelsior—12 p.m. PST
  • Atlanta Reign vs. Boston Uprising—1:15 p.m. PST
  • Toronto Defiant vs. Philadelphia Fusion—2:30 p.m. PST
  • Washington Justice vs. San Francisco Shock—3:45 p.m. PST
  • Florida Mayhem vs. Houston Outlaws—5 p.m. PST
Sunday, Feb. 10
Team Scrims
  • Dallas Fuel vs. London Spitfire—12 p.m. PST
  • Vancouver Titans vs. Los Angeles Gladiators—1:15 p.m. PST
  • Guangzhou Charge vs. Los Angeles Valiant—2:30 p.m. PST
  • Hangzhou Spark vs. Seoul Dynasty—3:45 p.m. PST
  • Chengdu Hunters vs. Shanghai Dragons—5 p.m. PST
Setup:
  • Format: the winner of each matchup is the first team to win two maps.
  • The losing team will pick the subsequent map, and the winning team will select whether they want to attack or defend.
  • Game modes will be played in the following order: control, hybrid, assault, escort
  • The first map will be predetermined by the league from the Stage 1 map pool.
  • Game settings: standard competitive.

Monday, Feb. 11
1v1 Ashe
  • Hee-Dong "Guard" Lee (Spitfire) vs. Chunting "Kyo" Kong (Hunters)—6 p.m. PST
  • Do-Hyeon "Pine" Kim (Excelsior) vs. Gui-Un "Decay" Jang (Gladiators)—6:15 p.m. PST
  • Karol "Danye" Szcześniak (Eternal) vs. Weida "Diya" Lu (Dragons)—6:30 p.m. PST
  • Kelsey "Colourhex" Birse (Uprising) vs. Jun-Hyeok "Bunny" Chae (Valiant)—6:45 p.m. PST
  • Jeong-Woo "Sayaplayer" Ha (Mayhem) vs. Yiliang "Eileen" Ou (Charge)—7 p.m. PST

1v1 Ana Paintball
  • Jun-Sung "Asher" Choi (Defiant) vs. Grant "Moth" Espe (Shock)—7:30 p.m. PST
  • Simon "Snillo" Ekströmt (Fusion) vs. Ju-Seok "Twilight" Lee (Titans)—7:45 p.m. PST
  • Petja "Masaa" Kantanen (Reign) vs. Ho-Jin "Idk" Park (Spark)—8 p.m. PST
  • Shane "Rawkus" Flaherty (Outlaws) vs. Benjamin "Unkoe" Chevasson (Fuel)—8:15 p.m. PST
  • Riley "Fahzix" Taylor (Justice) vs. Joon-Hyeok "Zunba" Kim (Dynasty)—8:30 p.m. PST

Setup:
  • Maps: Castillo, Necropolis, and Ecopoint: Antarctica.
  • Ashe 1v1 game settings: headshots only. There's no B.O.B., Dynamite, or elimination camera. There's no capture point, and both players will be revealed to each other after 60 seconds. If there is not an elimination after five minutes, the round will end and be restarted. Score to win: five eliminations.
  • Ana 1v1 Paintball game settings: one-shot eliminations. Biotic Grenade is disabled, Biotic Rifle damage is set to maximum, and there's no elimination camera. There's no capture point, and both players will be revealed to each other after 60 seconds. If there is not an elimination after five minutes, the round will end and be restarted. Score to win: five eliminations.


Tuesday, Feb. 12
6v6 Capture the Flag
  • Atlanta vs. Chengdu—6 p.m. PST
  • Paris vs. Guangzhou—6:45 p.m. PST
  • Toronto vs. Hangzhou—7:30 p.m. PST
  • Washington vs. Vancouver—8:15 p.m. PST


Setup:
  • Each team will select six players from their roster to compete.
  • Maps: Busan (Sanctuary and Downtown), Lijiang Tower Gardens, Ayutthaya, Oasis University.
  • Format: the winner of each matchup is the first team to win two rounds.
  • Game settings: standard 6v6 CTF rules.
Wednesday, Feb. 13
6v6 Showmatch—6 p.m. PST


Setup:
  • Two teams of six players—a mixture of Overwatch League broadcast talent and streamers—will compete.
  • Maps: Nepal, Numbani, Route 66, Horizon Lunar Colony, Busan.
  • Format: the first team to win three maps is the winner.
  • Game settings: standard competitive.
 

dr.rocktopus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dallas vs London is going to be DF spelling out "thanks for getting us to the Stage 4 Playoffs" in bullet holes.
 

8byte

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Does anyone know if the features of the all access pass will work on console or smart device apps? i.e. can I still get those benefits watching on my iPad or PS4?
 

Solidsnakejej

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Spirfire GM Susie Kim getting a promotion
The London Spitfire are excited to share the news that Robin Lee has been promoted to the role of General Manager. Former Spitfire General Manager Susie Kim is taking a new leadership role as Director of Youth Esports Education and Training across the entire Cloud9 organization.
https://spitfire.overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/Susie-New-Role-Robin-GM

Looks like worries about Fanatics were warranted
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/ao9cs4/this_is_sad_im_getting_a_refund/
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dr.rocktopus

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Fanatics has always been fucking trash, coming from their high prices, poor accuracy, and poor quality on their NHL gear. Their customer support has been more or less blaming Blizzard as Fanatics is simply printing to the designs Blizzard gave them.
 

Solidsnakejej

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That was my big worry about not having a back up MT, MT is one of the hardest positions to get and one of the most critical.

youngjin Started off as a MT maybe he can fill in for the time being.
 
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KarmaCow

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Oct 25, 2017
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I really feel for Diya, dude has been there day 1 in the endless nightmare that is the Shanghai Dragons and now season 2 is probably going to be just as bad.
 
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AlexFlame116

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Someone here was working on an awesome chart for Season 2. But I can't seem to find the user.
 

capitalCORN

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Oct 26, 2017
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why do you feel it's unearned?
Well, not to be a nancy downer, but I'm coming from a number of points. First, I'm a bit ill still on how HOTS collapsed, and after reading tweetlongs from players in the scene, shit got really dark and predatory very fast. And considering Blizzard's current state of insecurity really put a bad damper on really going heads in this hard. I mean, even they delayed the release of the SC2 tourney schedule until like last week, which is something that would have been a done deal before the new year. And also with the massive shift of fps gaming in Korea going to PUBG, I feel the talent may bleed away. And even without the general cuttthroast nature of esports from it's onset. I do feel that OWL really did tap into a new market for esports. But I fear having newcomers being disappointed and cynical if shit hits the fan, which is something I'm cautious about now.

I mean, not to be too negative about this. I'm super glad with the kind of presence and exposure esports and OWL is gaining. But Korea's Broodwar scene took a tumble like the MLB strike of 2014 after just one incident.
 
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i-hate-u

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Well, not to be a nancy downer, but I'm coming from a number of points. First, I'm a bit ill still on how HOTS collapsed, and after reading tweetlongs from players in the scene, shit got really dark and predatory very fast. And considering Blizzard's current state of insecurity really put a bad damper on really going heads in this hard. I mean, even they delayed the release of the SC2 tourney schedule until like last week, which is something that would have been a done deal before the new year. And also with the massive shift of fps gaming in Korea going to PUBG, I feel the talent may bleed away. And even without the general cuttthroast nature of esports from it's onset. I do feel that OWL really did tap into a new market for esports. But I fear having newcomers being disappointed and cynical if shit hits the fan, which is something I'm cautious about now.

I mean, not to be too negative about this. I'm super glad with the kind of presence and exposure esports and OWL is gaining. But Korea's Broodwar scene took a tumble like the MLB strike of 2014 after just one incident.

You bring up a lot of points that I didn't know about because I am not aware of Blizzard's efforts in esports outside of OWL, so thank you for that.

From what I am sensing though, OWL seems to be their only esports so far that is not seemingly half-assed. And while they can be criticized for their efforts in Tier 2 and game balance in general, I think Blizzard did a good enough job with OWL so far. If I was investing in esports, OWL would be up there for sure.
 

capitalCORN

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You bring up a lot of points that I didn't know about because I am not aware of Blizzard's efforts in esports outside of OWL, so thank you for that.

From what I am sensing though, OWL seems to be their only esports so far that is not seemingly half-assed. And while they can be criticized for their efforts in Tier 2 and game balance in general, I think Blizzard did a good enough job with OWL so far. If I was investing in esports, OWL would be up there for sure.

OWL is pretty much the most 'pro' production I've seen so far, and that includes granddaddy companies like OGN. They are doing an amazing job with OWL and what they're doing is amazing. It's just a thought in the back of my head.
 

i-hate-u

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OWL is pretty much the most 'pro' production I've seen so far, and that includes granddaddy companies like OGN. They are doing an amazing job with OWL and what they're doing is amazing. It's just a thought in the back of my head.

I feel for OGN, Blizzard killed their Overwatch tournament Apex.

I gotta say, Apex is still ahead of OWL in certain areas like in hyping up matches, graphics in general, and player cam reactions. RIP Apex.
 

8byte

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Fucking comical. The amount of money Fanatics had to pay for that OWL contract is INSANE. These could have been Champion jersey's but Blizzard thinks very highly of this league. I think the lowest bid was 1.5 mil for the first year, 3 mil for the second year.
 
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