1. Agni Kai

    Agni Kai
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    Man, Dallas Fuel really threw Rascal under the bus. I feel bad for him now, because the signing period is over, so he will most likely have to go back to his home country.

    I was a diehard fan of Dallas Fuel during stage 1 mostly due to xQc. Do not get me wrong, I do not like him as a person, but I admire his main tank abilities. I have learned a lot from him over the passing months. When he got released, I didn't have anything to keep me rooting for Dallas, so now I just support LAG due to Fissure.
     
  2. Jam

    Jam
    Member

    *Hired a Korean player with extremely limited-to-no English language, as well as being very comfortably embedded in Korean culture*

    *releases him because he had extremely limited-to-no English language, as well as being very comfortably embedded in Korean culture*

    Fuel management decision making is absolutely appalling. Like I can get Rascal might have had issues that made him problematic but at the same time he was a known entity and they knew fine well he couldn't communicate with the others or culturally fit in with their ethos - so why go through the trouble of 'trying' it and then releasing him and pushing him under a bus?

    Kyky has to shoulder a lot of the blame of Fuel's situation, but at the same time I fully believe him when he says his hands were tied a lot of the time. Honestly the whole franchise top-to-bottom has people to blame, it's a mess.

    At least Shanghai's excuse is they're just straight up ass at the game. Fuel has had talented players come and go.

    Also the Seagull situation is difficult, I don't think they straight up 'did the dirty' on him. It wasn't as if they lured him to join the team on false pretences and then whipped up the carpet from underneath him. He knew he was joined an established team in EnvyUs and that he'd have to limit his streaming in order to focus on the team - the whole contract and process is something he agreed upon when he signed with them. He made a conscious decision to be in this position, he chose to be a Professional. Also he seems like a good person who doesn't crave the limelight or attention. He obviously will be frustrated that he isn't playing much but at the same time I don't see him starting fights because he couldn't stream because he had to scrim.

    Also it's not even as if xQc obliged to the contract in any way. Through his whole time in the league he always put his streams and community first - they were his priority over his team. And I'm happy to see him sad that he completely blew his opportunity; he is completely to blame. Even now he looks for excuses like how Blizzard should hire people to warn them. Like dude. You're an adult - if you don't know that racism and homophobia are wrong that isn't Blizzard's fault it's yours. I'm honestly not surprised his parents didn't support him either, they know exactly the kind of person he is.
     
  3. TheChits

    TheChits
    Member

    This is hilarious though incredibly frustrating lol.

    Yeah obviously it is a nightmare from a balance/competitive perspective, which would then extend to being a nightmare from a spectator perspective. I realize the current system is much, much, much better and is how it should have been from the jump.
     
  4. Dead Prince

    Dead Prince
    Member OP

    who's ready for the LA Battle Round 3? lol
     
  5. Schlep

    Schlep
    Member

    I actually agree with him on hiring people, because it seemed completely random and punishments for some people were harsher than for other people based on their reputations. There seemed to be no actual rules out there, just very subjective punishments. I don't really pay much attention to xQc, but OWL definitely seems like the wild west when it comes to this.
     
  6. The_Strokes

    The_Strokes
    Member

    Honestly I don't think he'll get replaced by Void. That Fissure statement just revealed how big of a deal he his, and with Void there, he might improve his mechanical skill to make him even more irreplaceable.
     
  7. Parenegade

    Parenegade
    Member

    Effect wants out?

    Effect wants to beat the Koreans not join them and bring balance to the force?

    The Houston Outlaws could use a superstar Tracer player used to a western environment?!

     
  8. i-hate-u

    i-hate-u
    Member

    Outlaws would probably need to drop Mendo or Clockwork probably for that to happen.

    Also, that would probably limit Jake's play, Effect would be 90% time a starter on Outlaws. Effect and Linkzr/Arhan is pretty good duo actually.

    It would make me like Houston more if that happens, and even more if FCTFCTN starts over Muma.
     
  9. Alucrid

    Alucrid
    Member

    wasn't he talking about Dallas Fuel hiring people to tell him to knock it off? i mean, yeah, that would have been helpful. on the other hand he's also fucking 22 year old.
     
  10. Mariip

    Mariip
    Member

    Hype!
    i really hope so, it seems even iRemiix is taking some notes from Fissure(even tho he has a loooooong way to go and isn't the shotcaller to go, and probably won't get there :s)

    Btw i wonder who did shotcalling in that shanghai game?
     
  11. Schlep

    Schlep
    Member

    If he was, I'm not sure what that would help. The league having people would make more sense.
     
  12. Infi

    Infi
    Member

    Houston should get rid of Clockwork next season. He's a Tracer main yet we use Linkzr and Jake ahead of him on Tracer so he has no point in the team.

    I could see Mendo being dropped after Season 1 unless it starts to look like he's getting his issues under control.

    That leaves Jake and Linkzr with their limited hero pools and Arhan as our DPS so someone like Effect would be great.
     
  13. i-hate-u

    i-hate-u
    Member

    What I don't understand about Rascal's release is that they can't trade him or pick up any new player right now, why not bench him even if they don't expect to play him ever? Isn't that what they're doing with Cocco? Why not release him at too while you're at it? How is the Rascal and Cocco sitauation any different?

    This is literally nothing but bad PR.
     
  14. Hero

    Hero
    Member

    I'm not even a Dallas Fuel fan but they just did Rascal completely dirty. Will actively root against the team due to their management.
     
  15. dr.rocktopus

    dr.rocktopus
    Member

    You make logical points

    But this is the Dallas Fuel we are talking about

    There was gonna be another viewing party this week in Dallas but after this I dunno. I don't want to support this orgs behavior.
     
  16. frye

    frye
    Member

    is dallas deliberately trying to tank rascal's value in that press release? what a bunch of snakes

    i've only seen akm kinda hint at it and no one else, and he seems to be on good terms with his ex-teammates on kdp/london?
     
  17. This is the same hastr0 with the current CSGO envyus group so...
     
  18. coolasj19

    coolasj19
    Member

    Houston doesn't do ragers. Coolmatt won't have it, lol. But I bet he'd actually be in an environment where he won't tilt every other map. And Effects tilt seems to be more silent rage than anything.
    Mendo is getting dropped at the end of the season for sure. He provides little value to the team for his roster slot. But it's good they're treating him well while he's employed with the team. Clockwork is definitely gone too. Team is open to signing Korean players. Season 2 looks good.

    Also, willing to admit that I'm not sure Muma is the nicest guy. I get the feeling he's even harsher when he's not on camera. But not in a hateful way. I'm loving what I'm seeing from FCTFCTN but remember that as soon as teams get tape the effectiveness goes down. He'll just be brought down to more reasonable levels is all though.
     
  19. Mariip

    Mariip
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  20. Sledge

    Sledge
    Member

    Just caught up.

    Dallas Fuel are an absolute dumpster fire, you see it in sports all of the time. If you have to release a player that is fair enough, but don't actively try and kill any chance of them finding new employment on their way out of the door.

    Fissure seems more amazing the more we hear him talk. He really has a fantastic balanced worldview and manages to discuss the intricacies of playing on an OWL team and adjusting to Western teammates.

    I don't blame anyone who wants out of the Fuel right now. It must be such a depressing place to go to work, everyone is in full survivalist mode as well.

    Would love me some Effect though, or any competent OWL tier Tracer. Get on it for Season 2 Houston.
     
  21. LordofPwn

    LordofPwn
    Member

    they should really get him to a sports psychologist and I'd say if Dallas is up 3-0 toss him into the next map and just tell him to have fun. confidence is a huge killer on performance and you're not going to get that back unless you keep taking reps.
     
  22. milad

    milad
    Member

    Taimou said that they might just ignore playing Genji for the time being.

    lol this team.
     
  23. Mariip

    Mariip
    Member

    I can relate a lot to his situation tbh... I'm the type of player who tends to put all the blame in myself and it's pretty hard to break that perception and realize you can't fix everything alone... But goddamn I don't think that kind of mindset should happen in pro play, Dallas really fucked up by letting it come to this...
     
  24. LordofPwn

    LordofPwn
    Member

    If only they had a player on their bench that is known for their Genji play.
     
  25. Mariip

    Mariip
    Member

    With a positive atitude and great flexibility
     
  26. If only they didn't release their dive duo dps that can play genji and sombra and pharah and junk and tracer and reaper and mei. And also run their bench player on DVA since mickie ain't up to par and they specifically put the bench player on DVA 1 full stage. Oh well, if only...
     
  27. LordofPwn

    LordofPwn
    Member

    for whatever reason if a player can play genji they can also play pharah and mei and most seem to be able to also play junk. litterally anyone can play soldier so they need to start training AKM on some other hero.
     
  28. KarmaCow

    KarmaCow
    Member

    The problem is that Seagull doesn't play Widow or Tracer and his Genji isn't up to par with the rest of OWL. aKm's Genji is worse but he can at least flex to Widow to let Effect stay on Tracer. I could see him being brought in for Junkertown and Oasis for his Junkrat, and maybe Numbani.
     
  29. optimus8936

    optimus8936
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  30. dr.rocktopus

    dr.rocktopus
    Member

    Dallas will waste less fuel through weight reduction. It works for cars and planes.
     
  31. Solidsnakejej

    Solidsnakejej
    Member

    Is it though? While he play relatively low minutes on it(~45) he was still in line with the rest on a per 10 ratio.
    [​IMG]
     
  32. easter

    easter
    Member

    that they would drop rascal and keep traimou is mind blowing.
     
  33. i-hate-u

    i-hate-u
    Member

    That's a Y I K E S my doggie.
     
  34. KarmaCow

    KarmaCow
    Member

    Hmm I don't remember him standing out though that's just 45 minutes compared to the hours of other players across the season. Still, I think the issue how sniper focused a lot of the maps are in the current rotation.

    edit: it looks like there's some padding there since most of that playtime came from playing against the Dragons :p
     
  35. Mariip

    Mariip
    Member

    even if it wasn't I'm pretty sure it would be in no time if he were allowed to scrim
     
  36. LordofPwn

    LordofPwn
    Member

    what hero are these stats for or is it purely player stats on every hero?
     
  37. KarmaCow

    KarmaCow
    Member

    That's true, there are seemingly bigger structural problems with the team than any single player considering they couldn't integrate Rascal and Seagull only got to play in Stage 2 because Taimou was busy literally shitting.
     
  38. Oh boy
     
  39. optimus8936

    optimus8936
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  40. Dead Prince

    Dead Prince
    Member OP

    this won't end well.
     
  41. Solidsnakejej

    Solidsnakejej
    Member

    Just Genji stats from Stage 1.

    Yes its biased toward the short playtime but also remember that he wasn't really playing Genji going into OWL.
     
  42. i-hate-u

    i-hate-u
    Member

    This is a step in the right direction regardless.
     
  43. LordofPwn

    LordofPwn
    Member

    it would depend on who those 45 mins were against.
     
  44. Isn't there many ways to interpret this tho??
     
  45. Mobu

    Mobu
    Member

    Yeah, Effect can only end on Houston or one of the new Season 2 teams
     
  46. Soulstoner

    Soulstoner
    Member

    Anyone have twitch all access? Thinking about dipping in for the skins and multiple cameras.
     
  47. Solidsnakejej

    Solidsnakejej
    Member

    You can test out the all access stream for free the button command center underneath the stream activates it, its really nothing exciting.
     
  48. optimus8936

    optimus8936
    Member



    "that all the players agreed / participated on"

    “Agreed / participated”

    “Participated”

    “PARTICIPATED”
     
  49. dr.rocktopus

    dr.rocktopus
    Member

    Hastr0 gonna pin the fire on Reddit Mods.

    “We had hoped that the Reddit Mods could add flexibility to our communication from the team this season. Unfortunately, their commitment to the team did not meet our expectations and the unwillingness to astroturf the sub in order to encourage certain converststion about the team while playing in recent matches became a large distraction,” said Rufail.
     
  50. Tbm24

    Tbm24
    Member

    Answer questions to reddit is pretty secondary to all of the other shit this guy should be focusing on.