You jumped into the thread with your only take being "hey people who support the death of a man who inflicted unimaginable pain on hundreds of innocent children, don't think you've got the moral high ground here!"
I came into this thread to quote/concur with a very level headed take on this situation and also to contribute to that perspective. Stop trying to make my post out to be something that it's not.
Someone may have already replied to you but I just wanted to say that prison is it’s own society so the existence of these kind of rules comes naturally. If you’ve never seen a prison documentary I would highly recommend doing so. Prison society is incredibly fascinating (and sad).
I have and these things are well documented. It's still interesting because it goes against what a lot of people would think is common logic of "criminals going to be criminals" since some people lump them all into the same group and do not value the context or severity of what they're done at all.
I paraphrased but that's pretty much what you said. It is what it is.
I don't think this argument is going to be very productive and I don't want to derail the thread so I'm going to drop the conversation, but suffice to say that my post wasn't about "tut-tutting" posters here but contributing to a moral perspective other than what the general consensus has offered at this point.
Yeah, this guy was definitely one of the most evil people I've ever heard about. No tears will be shed for his loss of life, that's for sure.
It depends on what you expect from justice.
This is a good read on it. For violent and sexual crimes like this, nothing can really be done to the offender to make the victims whole, and the only purpose of jail is to prevent the offender from harming others, and maybe to rehabilitate the offender if the nature of their crimes makes it possible (which in this case... no).
Unfortunately, this isn't really the focus of some criminal justice systems, even though, in my opinion, it should be. I feel so bad for the victims and the families of the victims. I can't imagine going through something like that. It's just not fair.
I agree, I'm just saying that the punishment to the offender is not a part of that healing, aside from removing them from society. The lifelong healing efforts needed for victims would be a separate matter and should be rolled into health care policy for general support for mental/physical trauma victims.
Oh I agree with that, though you can't really begin the healing process if there is no accountability for crimes perpetrated against the victim, so the two issues are intertwined to a degree.
obviously not everyone agrees.
The sexual offence act of 2003 allows the arrest of any UK national who commits something that would be considered a sex offence in the UK if they do it abroad.
Yeah, there's certain crimes you actually can commit abroad but the 2003 act was specifically an update to the 1997 act to deal with people going abroad to places like Kenya and Thailand and then buying children.
I never said i thought he could be redeemed
I agree, he did deserve worse probably.
